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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Louie wrote: »
    Isn't aspartame known to be a carcinogen?

    Also not true (probably)

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  • LouieLouie Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    Louie wrote: »
    Isn't aspartame known to be a carcinogen?

    Also not true (possibly)

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    EWom wrote: »
    I can't drink anything or eat anything with aspartame in it, but that's only because I'm allergic to it. So drinking a diet coke, which would cause my throat to swell up and me to die, is pretty much worse in every way than drinking regular soda. I've heard there is a coke with a sweetner that is not aspartame, maybe it was Coke Zero? Not sure haven't bothered looking into it, cause if i drink the wrong one, well that would suck. r.

    You can get Coke with Splenda, which I don't think is aspartame. Coke in general is nasty, though. I'd rather drink water.

    The reason the cancer debate is still there is because they don't give the rats normal doses of the shit.

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  • BikkstahBikkstah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It's 180 times sweeter than sugar and causes brain tumors in test rats in volumes that humans will never consume. I drink Coke Zero which has splenda in it anyways. You can also OD on Caffeine if you drink a can of pop/cup of coffee per pound of body weight faster than you can piss it out, but who does that shit?

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Arrath wrote: »
    So how about that Warcraft. Any bets on whether the Goblin racials will be tuned down or everyone else's will be amped up to match them in this supposed racial reevauluation.

    They implied that everybody else's would be tuned up, but we'll see. When Blood Elves and Draenei were first shown, BE racials looked pretty OP, but they got nerfed a bit and everybody else got buffed a bit and it eventually did work out. I have a hunch the same thing will happen this time - everybody will get their racials buffed up to the same level as the new races, but goblin and worgen won't go live quite as good as they were previewed.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited August 2009
    Athenor wrote: »
    They deliberately do not have an AH, so that people don't spend their time 100% there. By the same logic they don't have class trainers.

    I never got the part about the trainers. It's not like they were the virtual water coolers to hang out around in Vanilla.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Louie wrote: »
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    Louie wrote: »
    Isn't aspartame known to be a carcinogen?

    Also not true (possibly)

    They've done a lot of studies showing no link between the two.

    But cancer is a mysterious beast, unlike your wee-wee.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    They deliberately do not have an AH, so that people don't spend their time 100% there. By the same logic they don't have class trainers.
    I never got the part about the trainers. It's not like they were the virtual water coolers to hang out around in Vanilla.
    A lot of lowbies already set their hearthstone at Dal or Shatt just because it has a portal to all capitals, so you can just go to Dal and portal to whatever city with trainers that's closest to your current leveling zone. Trainers IN these cities would be worse as you'd have both lowbies and capped people there for training and respecs.

    I'm just glad the failed experiment known as shared capitals is over with and Cataclysm will give us 3-4 capitals split by FACTION. Of course, it all depends on Blizzard's decision to preserve all the cities or axe some in the disaster.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Remove the membrane of an egg and sink it in a glass of coke and watch what happens. Do the same with a glass of water. One will become turgid and the other shriveled.

    The two key things to why mountain dew dehydrates are

    A: High Caffeine Content. This is a diarrhetic. It makes your body dump out water. Alcohol does this too, and more often than not, the headache of a hangover is actually the headache of dehydration.
    B: At the digestive level, it causes water to be pulled out of the bloodstream instead of putting water into the bloodstream due to the fact that it has ultra-high concentrations of sugar, sodium, and corn-syrup.

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  • Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing science?

    In all seriousness the fizzy drinks you guys have over here are nasty shit, it feels like I'm sucking off a sugar cane just touching them. It's just water for me over here most of the time.

    Now can I please get back to living vicariously through your enthusiasm? I think I'm going to resub after a two-and-a-half-year break and it's fun reading about all this crazy shit that's gone down since Tempest Keep opened up.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Remove the membrane of an egg and sink it in a glass of coke and watch what happens. Do the same with a glass of water. One will become turgid and the other shriveled.

    The two key things to why mountain dew dehydrates are

    A: High Caffeine Content. This is a diarrhetic. It makes your body dump out water. Alcohol does this too, and more often than not, the headache of a hangover is actually the headache of dehydration.
    B: At the digestive level, it causes water to be pulled out of the bloodstream instead of putting water into the bloodstream due to the fact that it has ultra-high concentrations of sugar, sodium, and corn-syrup.

    It's fun to make up science facts.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    Athenor wrote: »
    They deliberately do not have an AH, so that people don't spend their time 100% there. By the same logic they don't have class trainers.

    I never got the part about the trainers. It's not like they were the virtual water coolers to hang out around in Vanilla.
    They just wanted a flow of people entering/exiting the world. Even if it's literally for 5 minutes, with everyone doing 5 minute stints say every hour or so, that takes a lot of load out of Dalaran.

    And on the diet coke thing: aspartame increases your want for sugar (actually all carbs, but sugar most so) since your brain goes "hey, this tastes sweet but isn't as filling as sugar, I want more!" Thus people who drink diet soda usually end up drinking more cans of soda a day than people who drink normal soda and usually end up eating more sweets in general to counteract the aspartame's effect. This is why studies have shown that people who drink primarily diet soda can sometimes end up being more obese than the people who drink normal soda.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2009
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing science?

    In all seriousness the fizzy drinks you guys have over here are nasty shit, it feels like I'm sucking off a sugar cane just touching them. It's just water for me over here most of the time.

    Now can I please get back to living vicariously through your enthusiasm? I think I'm going to resub after a two-and-a-half-year break and it's fun reading about all this crazy shit that's gone down since Tempest Keep opened up.
    Apparently we're going to destroy the Abyssal Maw by filling it with Coke.

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  • BikkstahBikkstah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Caffeine is a mild diuretic, but so is water.

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    This may be a couple pages back but, will Goblins and Worgens start their stuff a la level 1 in the Cataclysm/sundered Azeroth?
    They will have a phased starting zone similar to DKs, but it will start at 1. Unlike other starter zones, it lasts until 15. Then Goblins go to Azshara and I guess Worgen in Silverpine or Hillsbrad?

    To be more specific, Goblins kick things off in the Lost Isles after the Cataclysm has occurred. The Worgen on the other hand start off matters at a point around WC3 within Gilneas, with what seems like jumps in time probably after you complete certain quests up to the present day.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Bikkstah wrote: »
    Caffeine is a mild diuretic, but so is water.

    When I drink a lot of water, it makes me pee a lot. Clearly water causes dehydration.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You know, I wanted Goblins back in like 2005. At this point, I don't care, because WoW isn't fun to play anymore. They should have added them in TBC, which, while it wasn't particularly fun either, other than heroic mode dungeons, would have been a good time.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Get off your high horse and back to the WoW discussion.

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  • BikkstahBikkstah Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    Bikkstah wrote: »
    Caffeine is a mild diuretic, but so is water.

    When I drink a lot of water, it makes me pee a lot. Clearly water causes dehydration.

    Uh, yes it does smartass. It's a balance of water intake with nutrition consumption that makes your body work. If you sit in your computer chair and drink 15 gallons of water, the diuretic effect of water will not only pull water from your body, but also necessary electrolytes and nutrients that will put you into shock or probably kill you. Dehydration is defined as an excess loss of body water. Severe diuretics like stacker and all that stuff with Ephedra causes severe dehydration. Mild diuretics like caffeine or water, cause mild dehydration. It's a system that's been in your body since the creation of humans. When you work hard and sweat, or pee, you need to drink water.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Jesus Christ can you psudeo scientists take your petty squabble out of the warcraft thread. I need to yell at people about all these changes.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Owenashi wrote: »
    To be more specific, Goblins kick things off in the Lost Isles after the Cataclysm has occurred. The Worgen on the other hand start off matters at a point around WC3 within Gilneas, with what seems like jumps in time probably after you complete certain quests up to the present day.
    My guess is it'll be WC3 "Oh no we're cursed as worgen, figure out how to not go insane and/or cure the curse!" and then at some point (lvl 5?) you'll go to the present where the Night Elves will come up and be like "hey, want to join the Alliance since we kinda caused you guys to exist and shit and we'd like to help?"

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Well, when in the DK starting zone time passes during each phase you complete. It takes more than a couple of minutes for the townside to become a burning inferno.

    And I'm pretty sure there was some indication that the questline was occuring over the course of a couple months.

    Oh well.

    It's not like consistency in time has been a huge concern in WoW questing.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    Remove the membrane of an egg and sink it in a glass of coke and watch what happens. Do the same with a glass of water. One will become turgid and the other shriveled.

    The two key things to why mountain dew dehydrates are

    A: High Caffeine Content. This is a diarrhetic. It makes your body dump out water. Alcohol does this too, and more often than not, the headache of a hangover is actually the headache of dehydration.
    B: At the digestive level, it causes water to be pulled out of the bloodstream instead of putting water into the bloodstream due to the fact that it has ultra-high concentrations of sugar, sodium, and corn-syrup.

    It's fun to make up science facts.
    I'm making up scientific facts that were accepted as the norm for years? Cute, Dave. Cute.

    The egg is a basic experiment that 8th graders do. Caffeine being a diuretic is common knowledge. That water travels to areas of lower concentration naturally from areas of higher concentration is again common knowledge.

    As a person with a different digestive system than most people, I have been told and have experienced that caffeinated beverages will cause me to become dehydrated. The fact that this is not universally true across the board is a surprise. I've been told this for the past 8 years or so, so it's not really that much of a shocker that old, accepted information is still being used in the medical community since it's such a trivial bit of information for most people.


    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/caffeinated-drinks/AN01661

    This was posted two years ago. It's new research and hasn't permeated into common knowledge. Mountain Dew still can, and will, dehydrate if consumed in large amounts, and it certainly won't help hydrate you.

    Now please, get off your high horse and back to the WoW discussion.

    None of your fancy paragraphs and no-butt experience change the fact that drinking a beverage that is mostly water is not going to decrease the amount of water in your body. Everybody and their dog loves to spout off "CAFFEINE IS A DIARHETIC" like it actually means a thing. And you brought it up, Mr. Cute.

    Also aren't you the one that hates all your doctors? Maybe they tell you lies to spite you. Mine like me.

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Opty wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    To be more specific, Goblins kick things off in the Lost Isles after the Cataclysm has occurred. The Worgen on the other hand start off matters at a point around WC3 within Gilneas, with what seems like jumps in time probably after you complete certain quests up to the present day.
    My guess is it'll be WC3 "Oh no we're cursed as worgen, figure out how to not go insane and/or cure the curse!" and then at some point (lvl 5?) you'll go to the present where the Night Elves will come up and be like "hey, want to join the Alliance since we kinda caused you guys to exist and shit and we'd like to help?"

    I think they're gonna wedge in there a civil war they mentioned happening first. Then the Forsaken comes rolling in once it all catches up to the events of Cataclysm. I really hope we get to hear somewhere some Forsaken commenting on the Worgen joining up with the Alliance.

    "They took in those guys? Are they crazy? Worgen are pure evil! They'll kill us all!"

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Bikkstah wrote: »
    Lord Dave wrote: »
    Bikkstah wrote: »
    Caffeine is a mild diuretic, but so is water.

    When I drink a lot of water, it makes me pee a lot. Clearly water causes dehydration.

    Uh, yes it does smartass. It's a balance of water intake with nutrition consumption that makes your body work. If you sit in your computer chair and drink 15 gallons of water, the diuretic effect of water will not only pull water from your body, but also necessary electrolytes and nutrients that will put you into shock or probably kill you. Dehydration is defined as an excess loss of body water. Severe diuretics like stacker and all that stuff with Ephedra causes severe dehydration. Mild diuretics like caffeine or water, cause mild dehydration. It's a system that's been in your body since the creation of humans. When you work hard and sweat, or pee, you need to drink water.

    Ok, so, don't ever drink water? Or soda? Or I might get dehydrated?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Ok maybe I wasn't clear.

    The water discussion is done. Over. Kaput.

    So help me God the next person to post about it will receive an infraction.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Scary.

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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    You in trouble, now.

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  • AlegisAlegis Impeckable Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    They're all talking about Mage water.

    Sometimes when I eat mage bread it's rather dry and I feel dehydrated.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I am still against new race DKs. At least for like a month.

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  • Ed321Ed321 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I honestly think they should have had some race restrictions on DKs. I don't care about the actual, in-universe reasoning behind goblin and gnome dks. The gnomes look absolutely ridiculous and I'm sure the goblin versions will too. At the very least I don't see why they kept so many other class/race restrictions in place yet didn't see a problem with trying to make a terrifying anti-hero out of Inch High, Private Eye.

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  • DunxcoDunxco Should get a suit Never skips breakfastRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I for one welcome the chance to finally roll a Druid on the Alliance side without having to be a Night Elf. I don't have many friends on the Horde side, so with the exception of my Shaman it never felt worth it to level a Horde beyond just seeing the differing questlines.

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  • SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Am I avoiding the subject, or am I doing science?

    In all seriousness the fizzy drinks you guys have over here are nasty shit, it feels like I'm sucking off a sugar cane just touching them. It's just water for me over here most of the time.

    Now can I please get back to living vicariously through your enthusiasm? I think I'm going to resub after a two-and-a-half-year break and it's fun reading about all this crazy shit that's gone down since Tempest Keep opened up.
    o rily

    There just happens to be a guild on Azuremyst EU (Alliance at the moment) that is there for eurofags such as yourself

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  • eobeteobet 8-bit childhood SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Seems I've been gone so long that I've missed an entire 100 page Cataclysm thread that's been locked already...?

    Anyway, I just want to know one thing for now:

    How will people who refuse to buy the new expansion see the game world?

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Been answered. The Cataclysm happens for everyone.

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  • eobeteobet 8-bit childhood SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So, free expansion for them / forced 3gb patch? How do you prevent them from entering the new areas?

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  • davinciedavincie Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Same way they did with the other expansions?

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  • FugaFuga Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I'm just glad the failed experiment known as shared capitals is over with and Cataclysm will give us 3-4 capitals split by FACTION. Of course, it all depends on Blizzard's decision to preserve all the cities or axe some in the disaster.

    whaat?

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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Blurbl wrote: »
    I know I'm super late with reading up on all the info but Goblins? Horde gets goblins?

    Alliance get's Worgen with their unique appearence, new backstory and freshness, and Horde gets a common NPC race we've all seen for 5 years?

    Why didn't Horde get Naga? They hate Night Elves, Blood Elves hate Night Elves, tons in common. Both new races would be beastial and so on. Bah.

    I wish we'd gotten ogres instead. Damn all those people that kept asking for goblins...priorities people!

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  • Tw4winTw4win Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Hopefully not against the Chat rules...

    I've been away for awhile and all of this expansion talk has me itching to play again. Anyone have a spare Scroll of Ressurection they are willing to throw me? If so, PM me...

    ***Edit***

    I've been hooked up. Thanks, everyone

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