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    OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Jesuits wrote: »
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Jesuits wrote: »
    I very much dislike most current goblin quests. You're busy fighting the Burning Legion, shutting down the fel orcs as best you can, and then you come across a couple goblins who are BOY I SURE AM HUNGRY GO KILL FIFTY BEASTIES SO I CAN COOK EM. Then you have the sapper squads in K3, which don't make any sense at all for a race that is supposedly so smart.

    All indications point to playable goblin quests being excellent and actually relevant to the surroundings, though, so I'll definitely roll one up.
    Goblins are intelligent. That doesn't make them necessarily sane.
    If anything, they're fucking crazy, given their obsession with explosives.


    Gnomes: Eccentric.

    Goblins: Batshit.

    Right, which is why the racers in thousand needles make sense, but they aren't actively trying to die there - it is just insanely risky. Sapper squad goblins are all 'brb killing ourselves'.
    I dunno, they did that all the time in WC 2. Just a throwback to that.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    you don't understand

    adding them to both factions meant that they wouldn't have to worry about giving one faction a tool and having to provide a counterweight on the other faction

    Theoretically, yes. In practice, they didn't worry about it at all to my knowledge. As far as I know, horde had 10% more threat up until TBC. Its not like it made much of a difference either way. PvP was not based on dueling and horde beat all the bosses in pve.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Look, fuck Blizzard and fuck you guys.

    ... I'm sorry, I'm jonesing hard right now.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    I played in a horde bleeding edge raid guild and a alliance "let's be number 3 if we can" raid guild.

    Playing horde was significantly more difficult simply due to fearward and kings. Windfury meant massive damage but fearward/kings meant your tanks survived.

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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    We already determined the nickname.


    WoWCat

    So wonderfully wonderfully wonderfully wonderfully pretty.

    WoWcat, hissed the WoWcat.

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    PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Don't feel bad. My subscription runs out in a couple days and I don't have the money to renew it, so I'll hate Blizz too!




    I'm tempted to go through the old world and take screenshots of cool places and instances. Just so I can go back and look at them after Deathwing fucks everything in the ass with lava.

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    SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
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    Just GISing WoWcat.

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    look at that silly UI. whats wrong with just two actionbars and one sidebar? nothing

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I played in a horde bleeding edge raid guild and a alliance "let's be number 3 if we can" raid guild.

    Playing horde was significantly more difficult simply due to fearward and kings. Windfury meant massive damage but fearward/kings meant your tanks survived.

    I was thinking more along the lines of blessing of salvation, which let alliance players do 10% more damage and their healers not take as much threat. But yeah, kings and fearward were just as useful.

    On the other hand, CHAIN LIGHTNING.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Playing horde was significantly more difficult simply due to fearward and kings. Windfury meant massive damage but fearward/kings meant your tanks survived.

    Alliance didn't have a tank race that got an inherent/non-buff HP boost.

    And to stem an argument, whether they were used or not (and I know many relied on Undead warriors for Will of the Broken), having to have X Dwarf Priests for encounters got a little old at times too.

    There's a reason my priest is a dwarf, and yes, it's because they were damned nice to have around.

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    SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Wren wrote: »
    look at that silly UI. whats wrong withjust two actionbars and one sidebar? nothing

    well, not all of us play [whatever noob class can fit their buttons on 2 bars]

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I've played healer and tank in end-game roles with that setup. works just fine

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    WrenWren ninja_bird Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    now if only they'd remove mana from all the classes still using it. every class needs to just use focus

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    ZythonZython Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So...Cataclysm. The stuff looks really interesting. 3 things.

    1. Was hoping we would get to go to South Seas. Maybe next expansion.
    2. Little bit off-put by the Azeroth change. Sure, it's going to be better, given their track record, but it feels like losing something. I should probably level an alliance character to 60 to get the alli-side experience.
    3. Where the fuck is my Earthquake? It's been 5 years, can't shamans get a good AoE already?

    50/50 split on class/race combos. Blood Elf warrior = good. Dwarf shaman = bad.

    Other than that, looking good.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    I had forgotten about salv.

    The ability that made Vael and Broodlord a fucking joke for the alliance.

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    Monkey Ball WarriorMonkey Ball Warrior A collection of mediocre hats Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    For the record, I am against them giving the undead priest dot spell to all priests. I am against all priests getting fear ward. Anything and everything that ever made playing a specific class or faction cool or unique has been taken away.

    You obviously didn't play a human priest.

    That change was the best change, ever.

    May feedback rot in hell.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I had forgotten about salv.

    The ability that made Vael and Broodlord a fucking joke for the alliance.

    no it didn't.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    One interesting thing about this is that they're essentially adding the Elemental Plane in bite-size chunks. (Rather than an entire continant like I imagined it to be.)

    Makes me REALLY wonder how the next expansions will play out. Maelstrom/islands for 85-90 and then emerald dream for 90-100?

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I had forgotten about salv.

    The ability that made Vael and Broodlord a fucking joke for the alliance.

    no it didn't.

    It really didn't.

    Look, I know Vael broke some Horde guilds, but after an entire raid night spent on that fucker, he came close to (or succeeded) in killing a number of Alliance guilds as well.

    Having it easier doesn't mean he was a joke.

    Also, live in the now! [/Garth]

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    I had forgotten about salv.

    The ability that made Vael and Broodlord a fucking joke for the alliance.

    no it didn't.

    Broodlord's 'tough' mechanic was that you needed about 5 different fucking tanks for himm since he constantly was doing his wing buffet attack.

    Vael's 'tough' mechanic was getting the warriors to be in the right threat order and maximizing the DPS from everybody else. Alliance warriors just clicked of Salvation in a certain order, and they would still fuck that up.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I had forgotten about salv.

    The ability that made Vael and Broodlord a fucking joke for the alliance.

    no it didn't.

    Broodlord's 'tough' mechanic was that you needed about 5 different fucking tanks for himm since he constantly was doing his wing buffet attack.

    Vael's 'tough' mechanic was getting the warriors to be in the right threat order and maximizing the DPS from everybody else. Alliance warriors just clicked of Salvation in a certain order, and they would still fuck that up.

    Those fights were never jokes.

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    It certainly gave a good leg up.

    Although, the true boss that alliance had an advantage on was Razorgore!
    Ok, so that was an exploit using divine intervention.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Of course it gave them a leg up, I was the one who started this whole conversation by stating that. :rotate:

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    I'm pretty sure my alliance guild one-shotted Broodlord. He was a joke for alliance. You might be thinking about the suppression room, which was always annoying.

    Vael was a joke for alliance. It's just that most people were incompetent. Not like I was immune to it. I spent days trying to convince one retard offtank that just because I had the axe off of Ragnaros did not mean that my executes would do more damage. All the fucker had to do was click off salvation and use Heroic-Strike+Execute but that was apparently beyond his mental facilities.

    EDIT: Shit, I was in the PvE PA guild (CTS on Proudmoore) and I came in number 4 in DPS while wearing big bad pauldrons and cleaving. I was in fucking 50 greens and 40 blues. It's just execute and cleave (or heroic strike if you are about to tank) and you win! It was the most basic simple thing you could do and people fucked it up all the time.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2009
    Forar wrote: »
    Playing horde was significantly more difficult simply due to fearward and kings. Windfury meant massive damage but fearward/kings meant your tanks survived.
    Alliance didn't have a tank race that got an inherent/non-buff HP boost.
    No, you just got a +10% HP buff FOR ALL YOUR TANKS.

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    pollofacepolloface Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    That UI looked like a shaman totem mod.

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    XaboraXabora Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    End wrote: »
    It certainly gave a good leg up.

    Although, the true boss that alliance had an advantage on was Razorgore!
    Ok, so that was an exploit using divine intervention.
    Wha?
    Horde on my old server just tossed down a ton of earth binding totems to CC the adds. :lol:

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Razorgore was insanely easy for either side just so long as you had the strategy.

    I do not envy whoever had to figure out that those mobs had to be kited.

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    HerothHeroth Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    olol Horde get another re-used re-skinned model and Alliance get an entirely new one!


    But whatever, goblins are okay, i guess...

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Uh, Worgen aren't a new model to the game. Don't know where you got that assumption.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    Forar wrote: »
    Playing horde was significantly more difficult simply due to fearward and kings. Windfury meant massive damage but fearward/kings meant your tanks survived.
    Alliance didn't have a tank race that got an inherent/non-buff HP boost.
    No, you just got a +10% HP buff FOR ALL YOUR TANKS.

    And the same was true for some Horde guilds with no buff required.

    Believe me, having to coddle the paladins and figure out who the fuck was on Kings was a special joy all its own.

    "... why are the tanks missing like 500 hp?"

    "... who the fuck is on Kings?"

    That said, I really enjoyed doing the Razorgore kite whenever I got the chance. Usually on my Hunter or Paladin.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Heroth wrote: »
    olol Horde get another re-used re-skinned model and Alliance get an entirely new one!


    But whatever, goblins are okay, i guess...

    New worgen models are like 250% more furry...

    And the goblins get new models.

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    JJJJ DailyStormer Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Heroth wrote: »
    olol Horde get another re-used re-skinned model and Alliance get an entirely new one!


    But whatever, goblins are okay, i guess...

    What are you talking about? Worgens have existed in WoW as long as goblins and they both have boosted poly counts. Though goblins are hideous so maybe you can't look at them long enough to notice.

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    SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    And worgens get female worgens. Which are all-new.

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    PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    The Worgen transformation animation is pretty cool.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Worgen can either be the Human model or the Worgen model, right?

    That pretty much means that if you choose the human race, then you're only limiting the amount of character models you have access to.

    "I kinda wish my warrior was a wolf today" MIGHT MORPHIN POWER RANGER "I'm bored with that back to human look" DO DO DO DOOO DO DOOOO

    Basically I want the option to change the race of my characters at a whim too. And have dwarves on the horde side.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Well, the human form is ugly and stupid, so I don't really foresee a lot of people using that. For RP purposes, mainly (ERPers will be using the worgen form).

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    SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    * The Worgen Form is cosmetic only
    * out of combat you can pick between Human or Worgen.
    * In combat you will be a worgen.

    So maybe if someone puts you in combat while you're in human form, you'll be stuck in the transform animation until it completes?

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    HerothHeroth Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
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    I Don't know, they look pretty new to me?

    The goblins look to have new skins, that worgen is an entirely new model/skin...

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    So you're always worgen while in combat?

    Interesting.

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