So, I'm going to rant for a minute here before I start my 12 hour work day.
The facebook game I'm working on has some sorts of rpg/mmorpg elements in the form of quests and storylines and whatnot (mostly the standard "go here, collect X" stuff, which is ok because its a card collecting game).
But, since the start of the project about 4 months ago, the two main illustrators (myself and my friend) have had to take it on myself to actually design, impliment, and polish all of this quest content (on top of the actual illustrating we're hired for) because we feel that we're really the only ones that care about it. None of the devs/coders really give a rats ass as to how the game is actually presented, just that it works. And none of them are creative enough to think up decent storylines.
So I've been writing these quests for quite a while, which I do enjoy, its just kind of not my job and its taking up WAY too much time that I should be using to do arts. So I got my bosses to hire a creative writer, who also coincidentally happens to be one of my new roomates.
She's got a masters in english, so youd assume she could write. But I really have yet to be really blown away by anything she's done. Her stories lack character and colourful description, they have a lot of continuity and logic errors, and are just not very interesting. She's certainly got the technical skills, but I don't know if she can match the creative side that my cohort and myself bring to the table.
The purpose of hireing her is so that we would free up some of our time to work on art more, but I'm still having to go back and edit her text, to make it more interesting or fix errors. I've been implementing data for the last week in order to get all these quests and compleatly rebalance the game (again, totally not my job).
I plan on doing a debriefing with the writer to try and get her up to speed, but the whole roommate aspect is going to be dumb. And I'm not sure how well she'll take criticism from someone who doesn't have an English masters.
I would LOVE to not have to do this, but to be honest, I don't have the confidence of any of my coworkers to be able to do it right. I won't give up control to someone I feel will do an inferior job because I want to create a quality product. Its a pain in the ass.
So, I'm going to rant for a minute here before I start my 12 hour work day.
The facebook game I'm working on has some sorts of rpg/mmorpg elements in the form of quests and storylines and whatnot (mostly the standard "go here, collect X" stuff, which is ok because its a card collecting game).
But, since the start of the project about 4 months ago, the two main illustrators (myself and my friend) have had to take it on myself to actually design, impliment, and polish all of this quest content (on top of the actual illustrating we're hired for) because we feel that we're really the only ones that care about it. None of the devs/coders really give a rats ass as to how the game is actually presented, just that it works. And none of them are creative enough to think up decent storylines.
So I've been writing these quests for quite a while, which I do enjoy, its just kind of not my job and its taking up WAY too much time that I should be using to do arts. So I got my bosses to hire a creative writer, who also coincidentally happens to be one of my new roomates.
She's got a masters in english, so youd assume she could write. But I really have yet to be really blown away by anything she's done. Her stories lack character and colourful description, they have a lot of continuity and logic errors, and are just not very interesting. She's certainly got the technical skills, but I don't know if she can match the creative side that my cohort and myself bring to the table.
The purpose of hireing her is so that we would free up some of our time to work on art more, but I'm still having to go back and edit her text, to make it more interesting or fix errors. I've been implementing data for the last week in order to get all these quests and compleatly rebalance the game (again, totally not my job).
I plan on doing a debriefing with the writer to try and get her up to speed, but the whole roommate aspect is going to be dumb. And I'm not sure how well she'll take criticism from someone who doesn't have an English masters.
I would LOVE to not have to do this, but to be honest, I don't have the confidence of any of my coworkers to be able to do it right. I won't give up control to someone I feel will do an inferior job because I want to create a quality product. Its a pain in the ass.
she has an english master
but does she have any experience playing RPGs?
cause that's the thing, it's not ground breaking literature, it's game quest text
you have lots of experience playing games, so you understand what has to go into doing something like this
pitch it to her that way, and it'll be a lot lighter of a blow
'i know you don't have a lot of experience playing rpgs, it's not the same as writing a novel, here are some things to keep in mind while writing'
she's -very- well read in fantasy and sci-fi, and in pretty nerdy (sort of in the socially awkward way, which I'm finding increasingly annoying) Im pretty sure she's played a fair share of rpgs.
But thats a good angle to take in terms of writing game text.
she's -very- well read in fantasy and sci-fi, and in pretty nerdy (sort of in the socially awkward way, which I'm finding increasingly annoying) Im pretty sure she's played a fair share of rpgs.
But thats a good angle to take in terms of writing game text.
if you pitch it that way "hey i feel like maybe you're writing for books, start thinking more about writing for rpgs" then it comes across as just a helpful tip and not "you suck, i know more, listen to me!"
i had the same problem (sort of) with my boss at my last job
he was doing things that i felt were bad design
but he had like... a degree and stuff, and i didn't, so he liked to toss that around, and uggggh.
its not even that, its like... her characters HAVE NO CHARACTER! They just talk! And the end of quests have no resolution! and arrrg! There's no spelling errors like me, but theres also no life or colour!
I expect someone who writes fantasy stuff to know how to write fantasy stuff!
and yeah, I'm just venting because I've had to rewrite large portions of most of her stuff and I have a deadline on monday.
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she's -very- well read in fantasy and sci-fi, and in pretty nerdy (sort of in the socially awkward way, which I'm finding increasingly annoying) Im pretty sure she's played a fair share of rpgs.
But thats a good angle to take in terms of writing game text.
if you pitch it that way "hey i feel like maybe you're writing for books, start thinking more about writing for rpgs" then it comes across as just a helpful tip and not "you suck, i know more, listen to me!"
i had the same problem (sort of) with my boss at my last job
he was doing things that i felt were bad design
but he had like... a degree and stuff, and i didn't, so he liked to toss that around, and uggggh.
Personally I like, "Straighten the fuck up or you're fired."
that's why you're supposed to select your friends to be less attractive enough to make you the pretty one, but not so ugly that you get associated with a group of uggos.
that's seemingly what my friends did
i mean.. someone's gotta be that person i guess.
hahah i'm being so vain and whiny
bed time!
i'll feel bad about posting this story in the morning!
None of your friends have had pictures drawn of them in the shower though. You should have used that as a come back.
she's -very- well read in fantasy and sci-fi, and in pretty nerdy (sort of in the socially awkward way, which I'm finding increasingly annoying) Im pretty sure she's played a fair share of rpgs.
But thats a good angle to take in terms of writing game text.
if you pitch it that way "hey i feel like maybe you're writing for books, start thinking more about writing for rpgs" then it comes across as just a helpful tip and not "you suck, i know more, listen to me!"
i had the same problem (sort of) with my boss at my last job
he was doing things that i felt were bad design
but he had like... a degree and stuff, and i didn't, so he liked to toss that around, and uggggh.
Personally I like, "Straighten the fuck up or you're fired."
See, I normally wouldn't have a problem with that, but then I have to live with her for at least a year.
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MetalbourneInside a cluster b personalityRegistered Userregular
edited August 2009
She's an english major. I'm pretty sure she's okay with spending plenty of time unemployed.
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McGibs, hire me to write your shit. Here, check it:
Scene 1: Toboggin BoneGrind walks into the bar, there are four average sized patrons, two orcs, a wench with one tit, and Santa Claus. Tobo isn't fooled by that shit and whips out his power axe and renders that fat fucking elf's flesh asunder. Motherfucker wasn't even elf, it was a DAEMON-WHORL in disguise. Shit gets real as Toblerone has got to figure out which magic wizard ward to pop his rocks off on to make sure this finicky faeried firey fuck doesn't get his bite on or this shit is going to end harder than a Rock Wizard's gnarled rod.
Scene 2: That monster shit is lying fucking dead on the floor, along with everyone else. Toboggy has acquired 1) 10 experience points 2) an erection
Portal guns would be a political nightmare. People would have to get into the whole 'portal gun control' debate and the old "then only criminals will have portal guns" rigmarole.
Portal guns would be a political nightmare. People would have to get into the whole 'portal gun control' debate and the old "then only criminals will have portal guns" rigmarole.
Still, I want one too.
Portal guns would regulate themselves, people would probably accidentally kill themselves alot.
Portal guns would be a political nightmare. People would have to get into the whole 'portal gun control' debate and the old "then only criminals will have portal guns" rigmarole.
Still, I want one too.
Portal guns would regulate themselves, people would probably accidentally kill themselves alot.
my roomate started discussing really odd sexual things one could do with the portal gun the other night.....
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Portal guns would be a political nightmare. People would have to get into the whole 'portal gun control' debate and the old "then only criminals will have portal guns" rigmarole.
Still, I want one too.
Portal guns would regulate themselves, people would probably accidentally kill themselves alot.
Yeah, guys would portal "windows" into young ladies dressing rooms only to forget that the portals have two way functions....
@cc: Oh god... what would happen if the portal closed while your.... significant limb was midway through at the time?
Napp I don't know but he started postulating questions like: If you used it to do yourself in the butt is that gay sex or is that still masturbation? What if you used a clone?
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Thankfully, i don't think its possible to actually do yourself up the butt with a portal- the movements mean that your butt and penis would always the same distance apart.
...your mouth however................
edit: also, why is shipping on 1 t-shirt 9 dollars when it'll arrive in 3-5 weeks?
18 dollar t-shirts are much less appealing when the shipping is 50% of the price and that outrageously slow.
Thankfully, i don't think its possible to actually do yourself up the butt with a portal- the movements mean that your butt and penis would always the same distance apart.
...your mouth however................
edit: also, why is shipping on 1 t-shirt 9 dollars when it'll arrive in 3-5 weeks?
18 dollar t-shirts are much less appealing when the shipping is 50% of the price......
this is why you get stuff from teefury
$9 tee + $2 shipping.
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@tam: I'll see what I can do... though I still need to update my lp- I've neglected it so badly.
Soooo I can't seem to access my gmail account from my computer. My connection is fine and it's not on Google's side cause it works fine on a different PC.
I tried turning off my firewalls and such but still no dice. Ideas?
Soooo I can't seem to access my gmail account from my computer. My connection is fine and it's not on Google's side cause it works fine on a different PC.
I tried turning off my firewalls and such but still no dice. Ideas?
McGibs, hire me to write your shit. Here, check it:
Scene 1: Toboggin BoneGrind walks into the bar, there are four average sized patrons, two orcs, a wench with one tit, and Santa Claus. Tobo isn't fooled by that shit and whips out his power axe and renders that fat fucking elf's flesh asunder. Motherfucker wasn't even elf, it was a DAEMON-WHORL in disguise. Shit gets real as Toblerone has got to figure out which magic wizard ward to pop his rocks off on to make sure this finicky faeried firey fuck doesn't get his bite on or this shit is going to end harder than a Rock Wizard's gnarled rod.
Scene 2: That monster shit is lying fucking dead on the floor, along with everyone else. Toboggy has acquired 1) 10 experience points 2) an erection
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The facebook game I'm working on has some sorts of rpg/mmorpg elements in the form of quests and storylines and whatnot (mostly the standard "go here, collect X" stuff, which is ok because its a card collecting game).
But, since the start of the project about 4 months ago, the two main illustrators (myself and my friend) have had to take it on myself to actually design, impliment, and polish all of this quest content (on top of the actual illustrating we're hired for) because we feel that we're really the only ones that care about it. None of the devs/coders really give a rats ass as to how the game is actually presented, just that it works. And none of them are creative enough to think up decent storylines.
So I've been writing these quests for quite a while, which I do enjoy, its just kind of not my job and its taking up WAY too much time that I should be using to do arts. So I got my bosses to hire a creative writer, who also coincidentally happens to be one of my new roomates.
She's got a masters in english, so youd assume she could write. But I really have yet to be really blown away by anything she's done. Her stories lack character and colourful description, they have a lot of continuity and logic errors, and are just not very interesting. She's certainly got the technical skills, but I don't know if she can match the creative side that my cohort and myself bring to the table.
The purpose of hireing her is so that we would free up some of our time to work on art more, but I'm still having to go back and edit her text, to make it more interesting or fix errors. I've been implementing data for the last week in order to get all these quests and compleatly rebalance the game (again, totally not my job).
I plan on doing a debriefing with the writer to try and get her up to speed, but the whole roommate aspect is going to be dumb. And I'm not sure how well she'll take criticism from someone who doesn't have an English masters.
I would LOVE to not have to do this, but to be honest, I don't have the confidence of any of my coworkers to be able to do it right. I won't give up control to someone I feel will do an inferior job because I want to create a quality product. Its a pain in the ass.
she has an english master
but does she have any experience playing RPGs?
cause that's the thing, it's not ground breaking literature, it's game quest text
you have lots of experience playing games, so you understand what has to go into doing something like this
pitch it to her that way, and it'll be a lot lighter of a blow
'i know you don't have a lot of experience playing rpgs, it's not the same as writing a novel, here are some things to keep in mind while writing'
A great start given the past 3 days have been shit.
But thats a good angle to take in terms of writing game text.
if you pitch it that way "hey i feel like maybe you're writing for books, start thinking more about writing for rpgs" then it comes across as just a helpful tip and not "you suck, i know more, listen to me!"
i had the same problem (sort of) with my boss at my last job
he was doing things that i felt were bad design
but he had like... a degree and stuff, and i didn't, so he liked to toss that around, and uggggh.
I expect someone who writes fantasy stuff to know how to write fantasy stuff!
and yeah, I'm just venting because I've had to rewrite large portions of most of her stuff and I have a deadline on monday.
Personally I like, "Straighten the fuck up or you're fired."
None of your friends have had pictures drawn of them in the shower though. You should have used that as a come back.
See, I normally wouldn't have a problem with that, but then I have to live with her for at least a year.
Yes.
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Dude something happen man? You okay? I didn't bother to read.
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I need a portal gun.
Scene 1: Toboggin BoneGrind walks into the bar, there are four average sized patrons, two orcs, a wench with one tit, and Santa Claus. Tobo isn't fooled by that shit and whips out his power axe and renders that fat fucking elf's flesh asunder. Motherfucker wasn't even elf, it was a DAEMON-WHORL in disguise. Shit gets real as Toblerone has got to figure out which magic wizard ward to pop his rocks off on to make sure this finicky faeried firey fuck doesn't get his bite on or this shit is going to end harder than a Rock Wizard's gnarled rod.
Scene 2: That monster shit is lying fucking dead on the floor, along with everyone else. Toboggy has acquired 1) 10 experience points 2) an erection
cheerful bear, you are and always will be one of my favorite internet personalities.
Still, I want one too.
Portal guns would regulate themselves, people would probably accidentally kill themselves alot.
my roomate started discussing really odd sexual things one could do with the portal gun the other night.....
Yeah, guys would portal "windows" into young ladies dressing rooms only to forget that the portals have two way functions....
@cc: Oh god... what would happen if the portal closed while your.... significant limb was midway through at the time?
...your mouth however................
edit: also, why is shipping on 1 t-shirt 9 dollars when it'll arrive in 3-5 weeks?
18 dollar t-shirts are much less appealing when the shipping is 50% of the price and that outrageously slow.
Better yet, music us a diagram.
this is why you get stuff from teefury
$9 tee + $2 shipping.
@cc: yes, but it isn't this shirt http://www.designbyhumans.com/shop/detail/5292
nice shirt...the color is a bit odd and the girl's hand looks stiff in the second picture.
NOW FIX IT!
Oh God it is!
Kill it! Kill it with fire!
Err, her arm i mean.
Her arm looks fine.
edit: Huh, I read it as "Her arm looks a bit odd in the second picture," not stiff. That may explain my bizarre comment.
Or it doesn't.
I tried turning off my firewalls and such but still no dice. Ideas?
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try accessing it from your calculator
You can use a ti-83 or 89 as an intervalometer on a canon rebel DSLR for doing time lapse photography.