Since I went through the trouble of getting the numbers, I might as well post them. I wanted to see the base numbers for Invuln and Regen. I took a new character through the tutorial and crisis, then respec'd out of all the stat-changing perks I had and got bumped to level 40.
Here's my results. Both powers are rank 3. Note that the "base" numbers are with all stats at 5, which is their minimum.
On my character that hit 20 before the boost (and had 20-ish items), I had 135 Con, and got 37% Resistance out of it. With level 40 UNITY items, I would wager that one might get 45-50% Resistance, and 58-60 Reduction. Note that with Defense from items, total Resistance will probably be in the 75-85% range.
A bunch of powers don't work with on-next-hit powers (Sonic Device, Toxic Nanites, etc.). Some of them consume the on-next-hit power (the next attack you do doesn't apply the on-next-hit) but some of the do not consume, so I'm not really sure what was intended.
A bunch of powers don't work with on-next-hit powers (Sonic Device, Toxic Nanites, etc.). Some of them consume the on-next-hit power (the next attack you do doesn't apply the on-next-hit) but some of the do not consume, so I'm not really sure what was intended.
If you know which are not working please bug them or send them to me!
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So here's my prelim build order for my main, I'm thinking a mix of telepath/TK. I will gladly entertain notes and criticism. Also, is it better to have a few powers at rank 3, or getting the specific advantages for each power, like I have done?
A bunch of powers don't work with on-next-hit powers (Sonic Device, Toxic Nanites, etc.). Some of them consume the on-next-hit power (the next attack you do doesn't apply the on-next-hit) but some of the do not consume, so I'm not really sure what was intended.
If you know which are not working please bug them or send them to me!
I submitted a bug earlier, but here is a copy of the text (A few more items are in the actual bug report as this was a backup copy):
On-Next-Hit powers do not work with some powers.
The following powers consumed the on-next-hit power but did not apply the effects (subsequent attack did not apply the on-next-hit effects)
-Orbital Cannon
-Flashfire
-Ball Lightning
-Flashfire
-Sparkstorm (this worked with Sonic Device but not the others)
-Entangling Mesh
-Thunderstrike
-Electrocute
-Field Drones Overload power
The following powers did not consume the on-next-hit power but did not apply the effects (subsequest attack applied the on-next-hit effects):
-Particle Mine
-Fire Snake
The On-Next-Hit powers I tested were:
-Sonic Device
-Toxic Nanites
-Miniaturization Drive
Some of this may be by design.
I didn't test every single power, but hopefully that's enough to get things going.
Regeneration is not affected by any stats, nor is the healing in Resurgence (or the Chi healing, for that matter).
I believe Regen scales with Recovery, not Presence. That was my anecdotal observation, at least, from swapping out various equipment I had on hand at the time. Can't speak for the MA (chi) healing power though.
My guys and I kicked off our weekly Champions Online Podcast tonight. Our podcast will be available hopefully every Wednesday and follow Champions online.
Our first episode introduces us, discusses our MMO history, dives into our character plans, beta thoughts and how we plan on playing the game. We try to provide some insight, tips, and discussion. Once the game goes lives we will provide "deeper" discussion of the live mechanics, stats, etc... Right now we just wanted to introduce ourselves and get some feedback.
Anyone know if there is a compiled list of weapons somewhere? Hopefully with images?
I know it may be "spoilers" but it would be so helpful for creating a theme. For instance, a munitions character with a combat knife or two makes more sense than one with katana or axes or warhammers, but I don't know if knives are in the game or what set they would be under (I could actually reason them being in all 4 martial arts).
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My guys and I kicked off our weekly Champions Online Podcast tonight. Our podcast will be available hopefully every Wednesday and follow Champions online.
Our first episode introduces us, discusses our MMO history, dives into our character plans, beta thoughts and how we plan on playing the game. We try to provide some insight, tips, and discussion. Once the game goes lives we will provide "deeper" discussion of the live mechanics, stats, etc... Right now we just wanted to introduce ourselves and get some feedback.
So I managed to get some info out of Antiproton, rewards guy, about the end game upgrades. I couldn't get him to answer what the "best" upgrades are however.
Sure, you will get 8 UNITY Merits from the dailies + 6 key fragments. If you are pure solo you can avoid ever buying a key and just turn it in for 6 more Merits. 14 Merits a day means you can get a Purple quality Upgrade from UNITY from 18 days of dailies. Group players earn 48 a day meaning they get a Purple quality Upgrade in 6 days of dailies including the Lairs.
Pure solo players are expected to get more endgame Upgradesfrom Nemesis than UNITY, hardcore group players are expected to get more from UNITY than Nemesis. Crafting is to fill in specific needs that aren't served by those sets/convert random drops into high quality endgame Upgrades. Cosmics Supervillains drop purples too for the folks who can join in on taking them down. PVP rewards include Purple quality endgame sets so that people who want to PVP instead of PVE have a route too.
Just a heads up, to get all nine pieces of the UNITY gear it will take 90 days in a group or 220 days solo.
So I managed to get some info out of Antiproton, rewards guy, about the end game upgrades. I couldn't get him to answer what the "best" upgrades are however.
Sure, you will get 8 UNITY Merits from the dailies + 6 key fragments. If you are pure solo you can avoid ever buying a key and just turn it in for 6 more Merits. 14 Merits a day means you can get a Purple quality Upgrade from UNITY from 18 days of dailies. Group players earn 48 a day meaning they get a Purple quality Upgrade in 6 days of dailies including the Lairs.
Pure solo players are expected to get more endgame Upgradesfrom Nemesis than UNITY, hardcore group players are expected to get more from UNITY than Nemesis. Crafting is to fill in specific needs that aren't served by those sets/convert random drops into high quality endgame Upgrades. Cosmics Supervillains drop purples too for the folks who can join in on taking them down. PVP rewards include Purple quality endgame sets so that people who want to PVP instead of PVE have a route too.
Just a heads up, to get all nine pieces of the UNITY gear it will take 141 days in a group or 483 days solo.
Oh yeah? Well I'm gonna do group UNITY, Nemesis, Crafting, and PVP.
and it will still take me 483 days to get a full set
EDIT: So, I just tested Regen with Recovery. Eighty points of recovery translates into +1hp/2 sec. I am unimpressed.
Since I went through the trouble of getting the numbers, I might as well post them. I wanted to see the base numbers for Invuln and Regen. I took a new character through the tutorial and crisis, then respec'd out of all the stat-changing perks I had and got bumped to level 40.
Here's my results. Both powers are rank 3. Note that the "base" numbers are with all stats at 5, which is their minimum.
On my character that hit 20 before the boost (and had 20-ish items), I had 135 Con, and got 37% Resistance out of it. With level 40 UNITY items, I would wager that one might get 45-50% Resistance, and 58-60 Reduction. Note that with Defense from items, total Resistance will probably be in the 75-85% range.
Regeneration is not affected by any stats, nor is the healing in Resurgence (or the Chi healing, for that matter).
Resurgence actually scales with Constitution. Base value with like 13 Con at 40 was like 2700, when I took Super Con it jumped to like 4,500. With talents I got it up to a 5.2k heal. Bountiful Chi Resurgence however scales with neither Con nor Presence.
Didn't think to check any other stats, because they would make no sense to scale with for a healing power.
So how do the power armor toggle powers work? I tested one of them out, and it didn't "toggle" at all.
Ok, tried some others, and they actually did toggle. Not sure what the deal with the shoulder launcher is, but it would only ever fire 1 shot no matter what I did.
So, are we ever going to have a poll to pick the supergroup name? Or is it "whoever gets to 10 first picks the name?"
If I get to 10 first I am going to call the super group "Whoever gets to 10 first picks the name"
I was rooting for Project G.I.F.T., but I'm now leaning towards "I Sued Cryptic For False Advertising And All I Got Was This Lousy Lifetime Subscription".
I like it, but I think it is too long.
Yeah, it'd be nice if we could establish some consensus on what people want for the Super Group. I thought we would have a nice window between Open Beta and the Head Start to discuss it, but that window's closing fast thanks to extensions. We really need to know who's committed to playing, how committed they are, and what names they do/don't want. And I'd personally avoid an actual forum poll since people will vote on it even if they aren't getting the game.
Anyway, here are the names from earlier that people have shown interest in, but barely any of you commented on and I spent way too much time digging through the thread for all of this to let it go to waste and now this run-on will end with a colon:
The Lookouts (Just_Bri_Thanks, TracerBullet, Foefaller)
Millennium City Hotsteppers (freakish light, yaysayer)
C.A.P.E. / Certified Avengers for Perilous Encounters (Inx, Xabora)
World Anti-Negativity Group (Anti-Nemesis?) (Foefaller)
The Arcadian League (because it would piss of PikaPuff) (Incenjucar)
something involving Broodax (Elementalor)
the P.A.C.T. / Penny-Arcade Crimefighting Team (SanderJK) the P.A.L.S. / Penny-Arcade League of Superheroes (SanderJK)
Merch Squad (Xabora)
Darkmagic (Elimination)
The New Hampshire Darkmagics (PikaPuff)
Stalagmen (Biosys)
We Are Nice Guys / W.A.N.G. (Harlon)
Deep Crow Hunters (Wallhitter)
Any chance people would be willing to reply with which names they love, hate, and how much they're committing to Champions? (Life-time/6-month/Pre-order/Wait & See/Fuck You I'm Playing Aion/olol [Statesman/Roper])
Empty questions for easy copy/paste:
Commitment:
Love:
Hate:
And mine...
Commitment: Life-time
Love: Millennium City HotSteppers & World Anti-Negativity Group
Hate: The Lookouts (feels too much like a theme group name) & Deep Crow Hunters (never understood the Deep Crow fascination)
to get all nine pieces of the UNITY gear it will take 141 days in a group or 483 days solo
This is actually wrong now. It turns out there was a bug that was causing certain items to have the incorrect merit cost. It's now a little under 90 days for group and just under 220 days solo. Something like that I think.
*edit* Silly me, to think that solo was only double the time.
Yeah it's a toss up between travel power advs and rebirth advs. It'll probably go to rebith 2, and might even ditch jet boot r2 r3 for rebirth r3. 200% resist whatever is sexy.
So how do the power armor toggle powers work? I tested one of them out, and it didn't "toggle" at all.
Ok, tried some others, and they actually did toggle. Not sure what the deal with the shoulder launcher is, but it would only ever fire 1 shot no matter what I did.
Weird, I could get a full salvo with my Endurance builder, Rocket pods and Shoulder cannon if they had targeting computer
So how do the power armor toggle powers work? I tested one of them out, and it didn't "toggle" at all.
Ok, tried some others, and they actually did toggle. Not sure what the deal with the shoulder launcher is, but it would only ever fire 1 shot no matter what I did.
Weird, I could get a full salvo with my Endurance builder, Rocket pods and Shoulder cannon if they had targeting computer
Maybe I just didn't have it set up right. It doesn't really feel like my sort of powerset anyway.
Talents: Level 1:The Hero Level 6:Enduring Level 9:Intimidating Level 12:Shrug It Off Level 15:Boundless Reserves Level 18:Survival Training Level 21:Jack Of All Trades
Yeah it's a toss up between travel power advs and rebirth advs. It'll probably go to rebith 2, and might even ditch jet boot r2 r3 for rebirth r3. 200% resist whatever is sexy.
So just to make sure, Akinos you know that Thunder Bolt Lunge is utterly broken right? It costs less than 1 energy, does over 300 damage, has no recharge timer, knocks the target down, and cancels travel powers out.
So just to make sure, Akinos you know that Thunder Bolt Lunge is utterly broken right? It costs less than 1 energy, does over 300 damage, has no recharge timer, knocks the target down, and cancels travel powers out.
Still? I thought that got fixed but hadn't gone live.. Let me take a look. Cuz I'm still at work. All for you people.
So just to make sure, Akinos you know that Thunder Bolt Lunge is utterly broken right? It costs less than 1 energy, does over 300 damage, has no recharge timer, knocks the target down, and cancels travel powers out.
Still? I thought that got fixed but hadn't gone live.. Let me take a look. Cuz I'm still at work. All for you people.
So how do the power armor toggle powers work? I tested one of them out, and it didn't "toggle" at all.
Ok, tried some others, and they actually did toggle. Not sure what the deal with the shoulder launcher is, but it would only ever fire 1 shot no matter what I did.
Weird, I could get a full salvo with my Endurance builder, Rocket pods and Shoulder cannon if they had targeting computer
Maybe I just didn't have it set up right. It doesn't really feel like my sort of powerset anyway.
Shoulder Rocket only fires one shot. It's not a toggle, really, it's more like a hands-free charge power, like Orbital Cannon. Once the timer is up, you shoot a rocket.
It's actually quite effective, especially in PvE. Works like the Sniper attack, only you don't get interrupted and you can move around while it's charging. Oh, it does more damage, too.
No longer costs 1 energy and now has a recharge timer.
This is on my internal machine so I'm not sure if this is live, though it will be by head start.
Aaaaaand goodnight.
Isn't live as of a few minutes ago, but the servers just went down sooo. :P
I decided to mess around with a Claws character and saw the fabled TB Lunge and decided to see what the fuss was about.
Amusingly enough, I think I can kick more ass with spamming Fire Breath, but that may just be because of the horrible object collisions that tend to come with yo-yoing around the screen.
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The majority (not entirity) of melee powers require a specific passive to fully unlock, particularly the martial arts sets.
Here's my results. Both powers are rank 3. Note that the "base" numbers are with all stats at 5, which is their minimum.
Invuln Base: 22% Resistance, 46 Reduction
with 85 Str/Con: 31% Resistance, 53 Reduction
On my character that hit 20 before the boost (and had 20-ish items), I had 135 Con, and got 37% Resistance out of it. With level 40 UNITY items, I would wager that one might get 45-50% Resistance, and 58-60 Reduction. Note that with Defense from items, total Resistance will probably be in the 75-85% range.
Regen Base: 271 Hp/2 sec
with 85 Presence: 271 Hp/2 sec
Regeneration is not affected by any stats, nor is the healing in Resurgence (or the Chi healing, for that matter).
If you know which are not working please bug them or send them to me!
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: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Ego
Level 13: Super Recovery
Powers:
Level 1: Psi Lash -- Psychic Reverberations
Level 1: Ego Blast -- Accelerated Metabolism, Rank 2
Level 5: Ego Sprites -- Slave Mentality, Accelerated Metabolism
Level 5: Flight -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 8: Personal Force Field -- Rank 2
Level 11: Telekinetic Shield -- Rank 2
Level 14: Mind Lock -- Rank 2
Level 17: Telekinetic Eruption -- Enhanced Form
Level 20: Telepathic Reverberation
Level 23: Ego Storm -- Malevolent Manifestation, Rank 2, Accelerated Metabolism
Level 26: Psionic Healing -- Psionic Emanation, Rank 2
Level 29: Psychic Vortex -- Single Minded
Level 32: Telekinetic Wave -- Psychic Tides
Level 35: Summon Nightmare -- Night Terror
Level 35: Teleport -- Rank 2
Level 38: Rebirth -- Rank 2
Talents:
Level 1: The Savant
Level 6: Indomitable
Level 9: Worldly
Level 12: Showmanship
Level 15: Command Training
Level 18: Academics
Level 21: Shooter
Chicago Megagame group
Watch me struggle to learn streaming! Point and laugh!
I submitted a bug earlier, but here is a copy of the text (A few more items are in the actual bug report as this was a backup copy):
The following powers consumed the on-next-hit power but did not apply the effects (subsequent attack did not apply the on-next-hit effects)
-Orbital Cannon
-Flashfire
-Ball Lightning
-Flashfire
-Sparkstorm (this worked with Sonic Device but not the others)
-Entangling Mesh
-Thunderstrike
-Electrocute
-Field Drones Overload power
The following powers did not consume the on-next-hit power but did not apply the effects (subsequest attack applied the on-next-hit effects):
-Particle Mine
-Fire Snake
The On-Next-Hit powers I tested were:
-Sonic Device
-Toxic Nanites
-Miniaturization Drive
Some of this may be by design.
I didn't test every single power, but hopefully that's enough to get things going.
I believe Regen scales with Recovery, not Presence. That was my anecdotal observation, at least, from swapping out various equipment I had on hand at the time. Can't speak for the MA (chi) healing power though.
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I know it may be "spoilers" but it would be so helpful for creating a theme. For instance, a munitions character with a combat knife or two makes more sense than one with katana or axes or warhammers, but I don't know if knives are in the game or what set they would be under (I could actually reason them being in all 4 martial arts).
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Huh, nice site. /subscribed!
p.s. I dunno if this is floating around but this wiki has pretty great coverage on powers and such:
http://championsonline.wikia.com/wiki/Champions_Online_Wiki
Just a heads up, to get all nine pieces of the UNITY gear it will take 90 days in a group or 220 days solo.
Oh yeah? Well I'm gonna do group UNITY, Nemesis, Crafting, and PVP.
EDIT: So, I just tested Regen with Recovery. Eighty points of recovery translates into +1hp/2 sec. I am unimpressed.
some things marked as melee that activate laser knight but don't scale up with str:
gauntlet chainsaw
inexorable tides
bite
my tank? uh whatever build
mighty
enduring
physical conditioning
paramiliary training
covert ops training
jack of all trades
clobber - clobber (25% interupt)
roomsweeper - concussive blow (shock/stun)
hurl - rubble trouble (stop travel power)
hamaker - nullifying punch (stops regen!)
enrage - r2, r3
invulnerable - r2, r3
energy shield - laser knight
nanobot swarm - r2, rejuvenating injectors
miniturization drive - reciprocating gizmo
unbreakable - better you than me
micro munitions - challenging strikes
resurgance
thunderbolt lunge - essence assault
rebirth
jet boots - r2,r3
teleportation
2 adv points left over
Rebirth advantage!
Resurgence actually scales with Constitution. Base value with like 13 Con at 40 was like 2700, when I took Super Con it jumped to like 4,500. With talents I got it up to a 5.2k heal. Bountiful Chi Resurgence however scales with neither Con nor Presence.
Didn't think to check any other stats, because they would make no sense to scale with for a healing power.
Ok, tried some others, and they actually did toggle. Not sure what the deal with the shoulder launcher is, but it would only ever fire 1 shot no matter what I did.
Yeah, it'd be nice if we could establish some consensus on what people want for the Super Group. I thought we would have a nice window between Open Beta and the Head Start to discuss it, but that window's closing fast thanks to extensions. We really need to know who's committed to playing, how committed they are, and what names they do/don't want. And I'd personally avoid an actual forum poll since people will vote on it even if they aren't getting the game.
Anyway, here are the names from earlier that people have shown interest in, but barely any of you commented on and I spent way too much time digging through the thread for all of this to let it go to waste and now this run-on will end with a colon:
The Lookouts (Just_Bri_Thanks, TracerBullet, Foefaller)
Millennium City Hotsteppers (freakish light, yaysayer)
C.A.P.E. / Certified Avengers for Perilous Encounters (Inx, Xabora)
World Anti-Negativity Group (Anti-Nemesis?) (Foefaller)
The Arcadian League (because it would piss of PikaPuff) (Incenjucar)
something involving Broodax (Elementalor)
the P.A.C.T. / Penny-Arcade Crimefighting Team (SanderJK)
the P.A.L.S. / Penny-Arcade League of Superheroes (SanderJK)
Merch Squad (Xabora)
Darkmagic (Elimination)
The New Hampshire Darkmagics (PikaPuff)
Stalagmen (Biosys)
We Are Nice Guys / W.A.N.G. (Harlon)
Deep Crow Hunters (Wallhitter)
Any chance people would be willing to reply with which names they love, hate, and how much they're committing to Champions? (Life-time/6-month/Pre-order/Wait & See/Fuck You I'm Playing Aion/olol [Statesman/Roper])
Empty questions for easy copy/paste:
Love:
Hate:
And mine...
Love: Millennium City HotSteppers & World Anti-Negativity Group
Hate: The Lookouts (feels too much like a theme group name) & Deep Crow Hunters (never understood the Deep Crow fascination)
This is actually wrong now. It turns out there was a bug that was causing certain items to have the incorrect merit cost. It's now a little under 90 days for group and just under 220 days solo. Something like that I think.
*edit* Silly me, to think that solo was only double the time.
Yeah it's a toss up between travel power advs and rebirth advs. It'll probably go to rebith 2, and might even ditch jet boot r2 r3 for rebirth r3. 200% resist whatever is sexy.
Weird, I could get a full salvo with my Endurance builder, Rocket pods and Shoulder cannon if they had targeting computer
Maybe I just didn't have it set up right. It doesn't really feel like my sort of powerset anyway.
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Stormfather: Level 40 Champion
Superstats:
Level 5: Super Constitution
Level 13: Super Presence
Powers:
Level 1: Electric Bolt
Level 1: Chain Lightning -- Challenging Strikes, Lightning Helix
Level 5: Lightning Arc -- Crippling Challenge, Rank 2
Level 5: Flight -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 8: Regeneration -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 11: Ionic Reverberation
Level 14: Force Shield -- Rank 2, Rank 3, Force Sheath
Level 17: Invocation Of Storm Calling -- Electrical Storm, Rank 2
Level 20: Circle Of Primal Dominion -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 23: Resurgence -- Evanescent Emergence
Level 26: Gigabolt -- Rank 2, Rank 3
Level 29: Electric Sheath
Level 32: Electrocute -- Superconductor, Rank 2
Level 35: Rebirth
Level 35: Teleport
Level 38: Electric Form
Talents:
Level 1: The Hero
Level 6: Enduring
Level 9: Intimidating
Level 12: Shrug It Off
Level 15: Boundless Reserves
Level 18: Survival Training
Level 21: Jack Of All Trades
That makes more sense. I just love zombies.
Still? I thought that got fixed but hadn't gone live.. Let me take a look. Cuz I'm still at work. All for you people.
Well if it's not live I don't know if it's fixed. :P How many hours you guys working now anyway? Has to be at least 14 right?
*edit* Yeah just checked, it's still wonky on our end.
Sorry, that sentence didn't make any sense.. I blame the almost 14 hours I've been here!
I keep hearing it is broken, but then I keep hearing that people have fixed it, but if the fix still isn't live I will look into it!
As of like five minutes ago it's still busted on our end. Also, now I feel bad I said anything. Fix tomorrow, sleep tonight! :P
No longer costs 1 energy and now has a recharge timer.
This is on my internal machine so I'm not sure if this is live, though it will be by head start.
Aaaaaand goodnight.
The people let out a great cheer, huzzah! :^:
Shoulder Rocket only fires one shot. It's not a toggle, really, it's more like a hands-free charge power, like Orbital Cannon. Once the timer is up, you shoot a rocket.
It's actually quite effective, especially in PvE. Works like the Sniper attack, only you don't get interrupted and you can move around while it's charging. Oh, it does more damage, too.
is the auto-level to 40 NPC still in there?
Isn't live as of a few minutes ago, but the servers just went down sooo. :P
I decided to mess around with a Claws character and saw the fabled TB Lunge and decided to see what the fuss was about.
Amusingly enough, I think I can kick more ass with spamming Fire Breath, but that may just be because of the horrible object collisions that tend to come with yo-yoing around the screen.
In other news, my telekinetic character is going to primarily use force skills
Yeah, just dip into the Telekinesis pool to take the actual Telekinesis power, which lets you pick up and throw shit with your mind
It's based on your Ego stat, which should be high on a Force character anyway