I've played very difficult and very easy games. I don't see why challenge/difficulty is cruical to this game. Loot isn't visible. There isn't much epeen/status to compete for. CoH/CoV's leveling was pretty slow and to me it seemed pointless too because why am I going to put up with slow leveling when there was no end game content to look forward to?
I think I am gonna have to suspend my force user. PFF got totally fucked over with this patch to the point where I'm not sure its viable for how i am currently setup super stat wise. I can see nerfing it some but currently two henchmen will generally kill my PFF and field surge doesn't seem to do anything anymore.
I was using Invul, lost 7% damage reduction. :P
Don't complain though, all def abilities got nurfed.
I think I am gonna have to suspend my force user. PFF got totally fucked over with this patch to the point where I'm not sure its viable for how i am currently setup super stat wise. I can see nerfing it some but currently two henchmen will generally kill my PFF and field surge doesn't seem to do anything anymore.
I was using Invul, lost 7% damage reduction. :P
Don't complain though, all def abilities got nurfed.
The only defensive that seems to really have gotten hit bad is PFF. Well aside from LR which sucked anyway. PFF is just a set amount of damage you absorb. With rank 3 its now less than rank 1 was before and goes away fast as you level up and they do more damage.
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Game has too many ways to get extra life bars as is.
I'll agree it needed a small nerf. Or maybe nerf force sheathe. But its kinda pointless when a couple equal level henchmen will take down my shield.
I definitely agree that the defense passives needed some nerfing... even setting aside PvP concerns (which don't concern me at all) they made the game way too easy.
However, as seems to be the way with MMO devs, they cut with a hatchet instead of a knife. I'll never understand why changes to powers/abilities/whatever can't be made gradually, to see how it affects the game, rather than the way they do it now.
Game has too many ways to get extra life bars as is.
I'll agree it needed a small nerf. Or maybe nerf force sheathe. But its kinda pointless when a couple equal level henchmen will take down my shield.
I definitely agree that the defense passives needed some nerfing... even setting aside PvP concerns (which don't concern me at all) they made the game way too easy.
However, as seems to be the way with MMO devs, they cut with a hatchet instead of a knife. I'll never understand why changes to powers/abilities/whatever can't be made gradually, to see how it affects the game, rather than the way they do it now.
Honest answer is so they don't have to nerf twice and suffer outrage twice. If they nerf once they can BUFF it later. True story.
Game has too many ways to get extra life bars as is.
I'll agree it needed a small nerf. Or maybe nerf force sheathe. But its kinda pointless when a couple equal level henchmen will take down my shield.
I definitely agree that the defense passives needed some nerfing... even setting aside PvP concerns (which don't concern me at all) they made the game way too easy.
However, as seems to be the way with MMO devs, they cut with a hatchet instead of a knife. I'll never understand why changes to powers/abilities/whatever can't be made gradually, to see how it affects the game, rather than the way they do it now.
Honest answer is so they don't have to nerf twice and suffer outrage twice. If they nerf once they can BUFF it later. True story.
Honestly can see why that would be a good idea, especially with the crazyness of some people.
They don't really make it obvious as to how to get your 30 free days without subscribing, do they? I guess maybe it counts as a gamer card or something? But cancelling out of the recurring 1 month sub got it for me.
Yes I realize that. But taking it down in 5 seconds and then having no defense isn't a defense. Its like not have to hit block for a few seconds.
Five seconds is more than enough time to have them nearly dead.
You are in fact intended to have to use your own HP.
Which is fine. But then what happens when I have to fight a villian or something along with them for a quest? I can't do it because I am dying due to drastic changes in the defensive i've chosen and being unable to respec due to borked costs.
Look I agree it needed a nerf. I'd said that in PA chat before. The problem is they nerfed it to the point of near uselessness.
Yes I realize that. But taking it down in 5 seconds and then having no defense isn't a defense. Its like not have to hit block for a few seconds.
Five seconds is more than enough time to have them nearly dead.
You are in fact intended to have to use your own HP.
Which is fine. But then what happens when I have to fight a villian or something along with them for a quest? I can't do it because I am dying due to drastic changes in the defensive i've chosen and being unable to respec due to borked costs.
Look I agree it needed a nerf. I'd said that in PA chat before. The problem is they nerfed it to the point of near uselessness.
Don't you have Strength and Ego as your superstats, rather than END and Ego?
Which is fine. But then what happens when I have to fight a villian or something along with them for a quest? I can't do it because I am dying due to drastic changes in the defensive i've chosen and being unable to respec due to borked costs.
Look I agree it needed a nerf. I'd said that in PA chat before. The problem is they nerfed it to the point of near uselessness.
Do you just have really inefficient damage generation or something...?
Do you not use block?
Because my health bar gets cut in HALF when I forget to block, but is fine otherwise.
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FaranguI am a beardy manWith a beardy planRegistered Userregular
edited September 2009
My pff ego/dex man is certainly more...exhilarating to play as now. Only reason he's still viable is because he crits fairly regularly and has some crowd control that locks out the tougher villains in a big fight. But I can see Sonelan's point, for most builds now pff is not going to help very much.
So, PFF has been nerfed into nigh-uselessness. Teleport is still OP. Regen can actually die now, provided it's not combined with TP.
On an unrelated note, I just got my game box. The cover sleeve is sweet. Except for the Witchcraft on the back, who does not look at all like Witchcraft.
edit: upon opening said box, I have discovered that Champions comes with the most informative and comprehensive manual ever.
it says absolutely nothing about actually playing the game, and mentions reading the online manual and in-game help. It also only mentions it once.
So, PFF has been nerfed into nigh-uselessness. Teleport is still OP. Regen can actually die now, provided it's not combined with TP.
On an unrelated note, I just got my game box. The cover sleeve is sweet. Except for the Witchcraft on the back, who does not look at all like Witchcraft.
edit: upon opening said box, I have discovered that Champions comes with the most informative and comprehensive manual ever.
it says absolutely nothing about actually playing the game, and mentions reading the online manual and in-game help. It also only mentions it once.
Yeah i have str as a super stat since I was doing ok with PFF without end. And yes I block. The problem I have is almost all my attacks need to be charged to do much so I leave myself open to tons of damage while trying to do it.
So, PFF has been nerfed into nigh-uselessness. Teleport is still OP. Regen can actually die now, provided it's not combined with TP.
On an unrelated note, I just got my game box. The cover sleeve is sweet. Except for the Witchcraft on the back, who does not look at all like Witchcraft.
edit: upon opening said box, I have discovered that Champions comes with the most informative and comprehensive manual ever.
it says absolutely nothing about actually playing the game, and mentions reading the online manual and in-game help. It also only mentions it once.
"Presence represents the character's mental forcefulness, charisma, bravery and leadership qualities, and helps determine the amount a character heals, the health of your pet, and the amount of threat you generate."
I like how half of the Presence description is talking about the RP aspects of it because it does so very little you need to fluff it up. :P
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"Ego represents the character's mental strength and strength of will, and helps determine critical severity, hold strength and break free chances over intangible holds."
So my regen, darkness, two gun mojo dude still goes through everything like a hot knife through butter, END and INT as supers. The main difference is now if I miss a block on a red powerup attack I may die, assuming I'm not paying attention at all to my health.
Yeah i have str as a super stat since I was doing ok with PFF without end. And yes I block. The problem I have is almost all my attacks need to be charged to do much so I leave myself open to tons of damage while trying to do it.
This would be your issue, yeah.
This is incredibly dangerous to do to yourself in this game. If you hadn't noticed that before it shows how bad PFF was.
Can regen still crit? I haven't been paying that much attention to it, but I'm not sure if they meant it not to crit at all or whether they were referring to only the 100% crit bug. (Also does ego scale healing crit "severity"? And is recovery and/or presence scaling it at all in addition to dex's crit rate?) Reevaluating my planned passive defense choice
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Can regen still crit? I haven't been paying that much attention to it, but I'm not sure if they meant it not to crit at all or whether they were referring to only the 100% crit bug. (Also does ego scale healing crit "severity"? And is recovery and/or presence scaling it at all in addition to dex's crit rate?) Reevaluating my planned passive defense choice
Regen should not crit anymore. If it still does, I wouldn't plan a build around it, because it's not going to.
Yeah i have str as a super stat since I was doing ok with PFF without end. And yes I block. The problem I have is almost all my attacks need to be charged to do much so I leave myself open to tons of damage while trying to do it.
This would be your issue, yeah.
This is incredibly dangerous to do to yourself in this game. If you hadn't noticed that before it shows how bad PFF was.
So it needed to be nerfed because I did ok with only having one of the super stats for it? Thats a bunch of bullshit. What about regen where you don't need any super stats to do well? Or invul where alot of people just took con and not str as a SS?
Yeah you could cheese PFF just like you could any other defensive power but less so than others. Hell most of the bitching about PFF was actually related to force sheath lingering instead of the actual power.
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edited September 2009
Haha they added cooldowns and no respecs?
Lost interest now.
No cooldown and free choice of powers is what interested me in the first place.
I'm a respeccin kinda guy and I do not understand the elitist kind of "you shouldn't respec you horrible man you" attitude people have to respecs around here. If I wish to respec, that is up to me. Kindly bugger off.
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Haha they added cooldowns and no respecs?
Lost interest now.
No cooldown and free choice of powers is what interested me in the first place.
I'm a respeccin kinda guy and I do not understand the elitist kind of "you shouldn't respec you horrible man you" attitude people have to respecs around here. If I wish to respec, that is up to me. Kindly bugger off.
Yeah, really, you being a horrible person is totally unrelated to your want to respec.
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I was using Invul, lost 7% damage reduction. :P
Don't complain though, all def abilities got nurfed.
http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=48436
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The only defensive that seems to really have gotten hit bad is PFF. Well aside from LR which sucked anyway. PFF is just a set amount of damage you absorb. With rank 3 its now less than rank 1 was before and goes away fast as you level up and they do more damage.
Game has too many ways to get extra life bars as is.
Hey, I've been busy job hunting, cut me some slack.
I'll agree it needed a small nerf. Or maybe nerf force sheathe. But its kinda pointless when a couple equal level henchmen will take down my shield.
They're supposed to take it down.
It's a health bar.
Possibly silly question, but are you super-statted in end and ego or did you stat some other way.
I definitely agree that the defense passives needed some nerfing... even setting aside PvP concerns (which don't concern me at all) they made the game way too easy.
However, as seems to be the way with MMO devs, they cut with a hatchet instead of a knife. I'll never understand why changes to powers/abilities/whatever can't be made gradually, to see how it affects the game, rather than the way they do it now.
Honest answer is so they don't have to nerf twice and suffer outrage twice. If they nerf once they can BUFF it later. True story.
Yes I realize that. But taking it down in 5 seconds and then having no defense isn't a defense. Its like not have to hit block for a few seconds.
Honestly can see why that would be a good idea, especially with the crazyness of some people.
Five seconds is more than enough time to have them nearly dead.
You are in fact intended to have to use your own HP.
I haven't.
I have not received mine yet either.
Which is fine. But then what happens when I have to fight a villian or something along with them for a quest? I can't do it because I am dying due to drastic changes in the defensive i've chosen and being unable to respec due to borked costs.
Look I agree it needed a nerf. I'd said that in PA chat before. The problem is they nerfed it to the point of near uselessness.
I got an purchase confirmation email with a retail key about 2 hours ago.
Check your spam filter, perhaps, since it's being sent from trymedia.com and not gamestop.com.
Don't you have Strength and Ego as your superstats, rather than END and Ego?
Do you just have really inefficient damage generation or something...?
Do you not use block?
Because my health bar gets cut in HALF when I forget to block, but is fine otherwise.
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On an unrelated note, I just got my game box. The cover sleeve is sweet. Except for the Witchcraft on the back, who does not look at all like Witchcraft.
edit: upon opening said box, I have discovered that Champions comes with the most informative and comprehensive manual ever.
http://www.champions-online.com/manual
"Presence represents the character's mental forcefulness, charisma, bravery and leadership qualities, and helps determine the amount a character heals, the health of your pet, and the amount of threat you generate."
I like how half of the Presence description is talking about the RP aspects of it because it does so very little you need to fluff it up. :P
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Also:
"Ego represents the character's mental strength and strength of will, and helps determine critical severity, hold strength and break free chances over intangible holds."
Duuude, don't leave that in there!
This would be your issue, yeah.
This is incredibly dangerous to do to yourself in this game. If you hadn't noticed that before it shows how bad PFF was.
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Regen should not crit anymore. If it still does, I wouldn't plan a build around it, because it's not going to.
So it needed to be nerfed because I did ok with only having one of the super stats for it? Thats a bunch of bullshit. What about regen where you don't need any super stats to do well? Or invul where alot of people just took con and not str as a SS?
Yeah you could cheese PFF just like you could any other defensive power but less so than others. Hell most of the bitching about PFF was actually related to force sheath lingering instead of the actual power.
Lost interest now.
No cooldown and free choice of powers is what interested me in the first place.
I'm a respeccin kinda guy and I do not understand the elitist kind of "you shouldn't respec you horrible man you" attitude people have to respecs around here. If I wish to respec, that is up to me. Kindly bugger off.
Yeah, really, you being a horrible person is totally unrelated to your want to respec.