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Discworld! (Terry Pratchett has passed away; world cries a collective "Buggrit.")

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Since he is running away all the time, it wouldn't hurt to have a younger actor like Pegg to play Rincewind.

  • DunderDunder Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    He's a bit tall for Nobbby, I think. Nobby is a squat sort of guy. How tall is Paul Whitehouse? Kevin Eldon?

    Ronnie Barker in his prime would have made a great Colon. Mark Addy these days, I guess.

    Is he that tall? Both the office and PoC gave me the impression that he is a smaller guy, or at least average height. Of course nobby is decidedly short, but I think that’s one of the least important of his traits.

  • ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Nick Frost could be a good Colon.

  • HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    According to the Wiki, Rincewind was born in 1032 UC which made him 32 in Colour of Magic and 57 in The Last Hero.

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    According to the Wiki, Rincewind was born in 1032 UC which made him 32 in Colour of Magic and 57 in The Last Hero.

    he's also, what, 100 in Unseen Academicals?

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    According to the Wiki, Rincewind was born in 1032 UC which made him 32 in Colour of Magic and 57 in The Last Hero.

    he's also, what, 100 in Unseen Academicals?

    Well, with Wizards, time doesn't always run in a nice straight line.
    For Rincewind, that's even more true, much to Death's chagrin.
    Dunder wrote: »
    Bogart wrote: »
    He's a bit tall for Nobbby, I think. Nobby is a squat sort of guy. How tall is Paul Whitehouse? Kevin Eldon?

    Ronnie Barker in his prime would have made a great Colon. Mark Addy these days, I guess.

    Is he that tall? Both the office and PoC gave me the impression that he is a smaller guy, or at least average height. Of course nobby is decidedly short, but I think that’s one of the least important of his traits.
    I always imagined that Nobby was a tallish person, but tended to be hunched over to try and look smaller. And, Discworld being Discworld, everyone else treats him and remembers him as being smaller than he actually is.

  • honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Alden Ehrenreich as Carrot

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    I mean the perfect Rincewind has always been Eric Idle
    https://youtu.be/xLU_GvlaTtI

    So much so that he's played him before
    https://youtu.be/EyM9OBsjvf0?t=56

  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    What if someone hasn’t read much Pratchett but wants to use a credit or two on Audible to have a good first sampling? What would be recommended from the available list:

    https://www.audible.com/search?keywords=terry+pratchett&ref=a_hp_t1_mobile_header_search

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    What if someone hasn’t read much Pratchett but wants to use a credit or two on Audible to have a good first sampling? What would be recommended from the available list:

    https://www.audible.com/search?keywords=terry+pratchett&ref=a_hp_t1_mobile_header_search

    guards guards is a fantastic stand alone story.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Nobby is described as being distinct from a Dwarf via species rather than height, and in Jingo is described as practically dwarf-height, so somebody short would fit the bill better.

    I think that the issue with casting somebody to play a character described as being disqualified from the human race for shoving, who carries around written proof of his species, is that you're never going to get it as right as the description without going cartoony. Imagine trying to cast Maris Crane from Frasier from the descriptions given throughout the series.

    Clearly the only solution is Andy Serkis in mocap

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • WatcherWatcher Registered User regular
    I've got three of the audible books. Guards! Guards! is my favorite of the three, and is also my favorite book. No, it was nowhere near the first book of Discworld I had read.

  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    What if someone hasn’t read much Pratchett but wants to use a credit or two on Audible to have a good first sampling? What would be recommended from the available list:

    https://www.audible.com/search?keywords=terry+pratchett&ref=a_hp_t1_mobile_header_search

    Mort, Guards! Guards! or, if you like your Shakespeare, Wyrd Sisters. They're essentially the first entries (kinda) in the three main 'series'. Mort is the fourth novel, but IMO the first one that really feels like Discworld.

    But what you should really do is read them all in order - the entire series!

    EDIT: I can't actually see what's on offer through Audible, so don't know if my suggestions are available.

    Schadenfreude on
    Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    What if someone hasn’t read much Pratchett but wants to use a credit or two on Audible to have a good first sampling? What would be recommended from the available list:

    https://www.audible.com/search?keywords=terry+pratchett&ref=a_hp_t1_mobile_header_search

    Mort, Guards! Guards! or, if you like your Shakespeare, Wyrd Sisters. They're essentially the first entries (kinda) in the three main 'series'. Mort is the fourth novel, but IMO the first one that really feels like Discworld.

    But what you should really do is read them all in order - the entire series!

    I held off on suggesting The Colour of Magic to my friend because the style (and in my opinion quality) is so different, and gave her the three you mentioned first, then Equal Rites (my first) and the first two.

    She's up to Moving Pictures and still going strong, so I think I did right by her

    Small Gods is recommended by some as a good starter, as it's standalone and occasionally veers dangerously close to literature

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    I always held a soft spot for Pyramids and was sorry we never saw more of that crew. In my mind it's something of a twin to Small Gods, concerned as they are with gods, belief and sand.

    In terms of 'literature', Small Gods and Night Watch are top of the pile IMO.

    Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Night Watch kind of relies on watching Vimes grow as a character

  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Night Watch kind of relies on watching Vimes grow as a character

    Oh definitely. I still think it's the best book in the whole series.

    Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    The thing for me about Night Watch is that I have no way of knowing how impactful it would have been without all of the knowledge from the previous Watch books

    It's still probably in my top three (with Feet of Clay and a third that will change depending on the day), but it's a kind of 'standing on the shoulders of giants' thing

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Guards! Guards! sounds good to start. Thanks all!

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Night Watch
    Vimes becomes his own mentor.

  • lazegamerlazegamer The magnanimous cyberspaceRegistered User regular
    What if someone hasn’t read much Pratchett but wants to use a credit or two on Audible to have a good first sampling? What would be recommended from the available list:

    https://www.audible.com/search?keywords=terry+pratchett&ref=a_hp_t1_mobile_header_search

    Mort, Guards! Guards! or, if you like your Shakespeare, Wyrd Sisters. They're essentially the first entries (kinda) in the three main 'series'. Mort is the fourth novel, but IMO the first one that really feels like Discworld.

    But what you should really do is read them all in order - the entire series!

    EDIT: I can't actually see what's on offer through Audible, so don't know if my suggestions are available.

    Mort or Small Gods would certainly have my vote for a standalone Discworld novel.

    I would download a car.
  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    For a later book that mostly stands on its own, Going Postal isn't a bad choice.
    A new main character (specifically to avoid the Watch taking over the plot), and plenty of references to business practices that totally don't have any real world relevance, what are you talking about.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    The Postal mini series was good.

  • DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    My first Pratchett book was Guards Guards Men at Arms, so good choice, since it starts off the guards series. Since I started off with the second in the series I missed some of the setup and references, but still got hooked into the whole world. I don't think there's a bad spot to start aside from the advice I've seen of don't start with the first two as they are definitely weaker than the rest of the series.

    edit: memory works poor this early, had the wrong book listed.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    For a later book that mostly stands on its own, Going Postal isn't a bad choice.
    A new main character (specifically to avoid the Watch taking over the plot), and plenty of references to business practices that totally don't have any real world relevance, what are you talking about.

    These days, I can't read the passages about Tower 181 without pausing to stare at the wall for a bit

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    The first two aren't especially worse so much as they're different.
    Colour of Magic was a fairly standard fantasy parody, Light Fantastic slightly less so.
    After that, he settled down to using this fantasy world to parody everything else in existence.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    I always held a soft spot for Pyramids and was sorry we never saw more of that crew. In my mind it's something of a twin to Small Gods, concerned as they are with gods, belief and sand.

    There's a reason it was included in a hardcover omnibus I have with Small Gods and Hogfather. (Hogfather, of course, replaces the sand with snow slush best not to think about it, really.)

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    My first Discworld book was actually The Fifth Elephant, and while a lot of character details were lost on me (they don't really elaborate on Gaspode, for instance, he's just there as a fairly major secondary character), it was simultaneously very funny and also very serious.

    The Guards books are definitely a good way to go.

  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited November 2018
    I always held a soft spot for Pyramids and was sorry we never saw more of that crew. In my mind it's something of a twin to Small Gods, concerned as they are with gods, belief and sand.

    In terms of 'literature', Small Gods and Night Watch are top of the pile IMO.

    Small Gods is fantastic but it could pretty much be a complete stand alone book unrelated to the rest of discworld. I mean there are obvious connecting points like Cut-Me-Own-Hand-Off Dhblah but it's sort of in it's own little bubble. So as a starting point to the rest of the series I wouldn't recommend it.

    It's actually funny but I read most of the stories completely out of order and began with The Light Fantastic and Colour of Magic right after and frankly it was pretty great reading them that way too.

    DanHibiki on
  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    I got a friend hooked with Night Watch (the 'gilt by association' pun pretty much sealed it).

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
  • AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Night watch and Guards Guards and even feet of clay are better books but my hands down, read when I am bored, Watch/Vimes book is Fifth Elephant.

    Its hilarious and so well paced.

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    I hope we get some high quality muppet work for Detritus.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Interesting Times was a Rincewind story, wasn't it?

  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    My first Discworld books were Mort, Soul Music, Sourcery, and Eric, I think in that order. Those were all Discworld books that my high school library had.

    When I was first really living on my own with a job, about fifteen years back, I embarked on a project to buy and read them all in more or less chronological order. That was a good year. And I've kept up since.

  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    I hope we get low quality stop-motion work for the gargoyles.
    As GodPratchett intended.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
  • NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    I guess The Fifth Elephant is somewhat standalone given how it only takes a couple established characters that it moves into a new setting, but those characters get set up so much in the previous books in that particular series that I don't think I'd recommend it as an introduction.

    Then again, I started with Men At Arms. It took me years before I read Guards! Guards!, I think?

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I always held a soft spot for Pyramids and was sorry we never saw more of that crew. In my mind it's something of a twin to Small Gods, concerned as they are with gods, belief and sand.

    In terms of 'literature', Small Gods and Night Watch are top of the pile IMO.

    Small Gods is fantastic but it could pretty much be a complete stand alone book unrelated to the rest of discworld. I mean there are obvious connecting points like Cut-Me-Own-Hand-Off Dhblah but it's sort of in it's own little bubble. So as a starting point to the rest of the series I wouldn't recommend it.

    It's actually funny but I read most of the stories completely out of order and began with The Light Fantastic and Colour of Magic right after and frankly it was pretty great either way.

    Personally, I think that's one of the selling points of Small Gods as a starting point with Discworld. The investment in the book is just this one book. There's no characters from other books who show up with the assumption that you know who they are.

    Also, it came out during what I think was Pratchett's peak as an author. It was after the early Discworld books where he was still finding his voice and establishing the setting, but it was before the alzheimer diagnosis and (in my opinion) subsequent decline in writing. I'm not saying the later books are bad, but I don't think they were as good as those in the middle of his writing career.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    The Tiffany Aching books might be a good pick to start someone out on if you want one that's a relatively easy read, although the follow-ups get... heavy.

  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Started my wife and daughter off on the Tiffany Aching books. Daughter is on Wintersmith and wife is on I Shall Wear Midnight. I think my wife is hooked. My daughter less so.

    As far as the audible stuff goes, from what I understand there are 2 different readers. One is apparently really not great. I'm not sure which though and can't offer much insight into that. I've only done Night Watch as an audbile book.

    I also just finished up Shepards Crown a bit ago. It certainly was a bit sad.

    PSN: jfrofl
  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
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    see317 wrote: »
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I always held a soft spot for Pyramids and was sorry we never saw more of that crew. In my mind it's something of a twin to Small Gods, concerned as they are with gods, belief and sand.

    In terms of 'literature', Small Gods and Night Watch are top of the pile IMO.

    Small Gods is fantastic but it could pretty much be a complete stand alone book unrelated to the rest of discworld. I mean there are obvious connecting points like Cut-Me-Own-Hand-Off Dhblah but it's sort of in it's own little bubble. So as a starting point to the rest of the series I wouldn't recommend it.

    It's actually funny but I read most of the stories completely out of order and began with The Light Fantastic and Colour of Magic right after and frankly it was pretty great either way.

    Personally, I think that's one of the selling points of Small Gods as a starting point with Discworld. The investment in the book is just this one book. There's no characters from other books who show up with the assumption that you know who they are.

    Also, it came out during what I think was Pratchett's peak as an author. It was after the early Discworld books where he was still finding his voice and establishing the setting, but it was before the alzheimer diagnosis and (in my opinion) subsequent decline in writing. I'm not saying the later books are bad, but I don't think they were as good as those in the middle of his writing career.

    Night Watch was his last really good one IMO. After that, there were still good books, but one had to forgive an increasing amount of not-so-good in there.

    Fuck you, Alzheimers. You go to hell.

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