The Black HunterThe key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple,unimpeachable reason to existRegistered Userregular
edited October 2009
you need at least 60-70 guys
They need to be good
Try to get the defenders to repeatedly sally out into your flock of Gladiators/knights, use a crossbow to take out archers from the walls with your men hiding behind a hill or some such etc etc
heh, pretty much every other battle i take part in now is a siege, I've obliterated ravenstern and am now on a crusade to crush the d'shar... what they do is not medieval warfare, well not european medieval... and that's why i play this game... so they need to be ousted, the Empire seem to dislike life in general... they've taken to attacking me out of the blue, and i've been crushing them as well... but only as one crushes a fly upon their arm, i'm thinking of upping the difficulty a little bit... the change of strategy i've done is a bit OP. 100+ heavy cavalry -> Charge -> omgroflstomp anything... haven't tried it on any elite armies yet, but my 115 troops vs 700+ D'Shar was a massacre... i lost 20 guys, most of whom were wounded
I can't quit playing this (PoP mod), Ive got two castles next to each other and the two towns that link to them (Shieldstormand Waldven castles) they were pretty easy to take and have been pretty easy to keep secure, if the Computer sends more than I can handle I drag whomever is attacking me into the woods right next to my castles and let the noldor crush them while I help imup to around +50 with the noldor, i miss out on some good items I know but my castles are neat.
One problem though, Ive got full garrisions in both my castles and about 70 troops with me, costs are becoming an issue, Guess you have to get lords at this point eh? otherwise you wont be able to pay your army...
Prophesy Of Pendor
The current mod of mods, start your own kingdom, find magical weapons, dominate your enemies! Graphical Enhancement Mod 2.5
Makes the game look shiny and way better. PunkT Hi-Res Textures
Overhauls the world map textures without adding any new land features to screw up the game! Looks like google earth. Battle Map Textures
Makes the battle map look nicer. Ocean and Blood Fix
Improves ocean and blood animations/textures.
I can't quit playing this (PoP mod), Ive got two castles next to each other and the two towns that link to them (Shieldstormand Waldven castles) they were pretty easy to take and have been pretty easy to keep secure, if the Computer sends more than I can handle I drag whomever is attacking me into the woods right next to my castles and let the noldor crush them while I help imup to around +50 with the noldor, i miss out on some good items I know but my castles are neat.
One problem though, Ive got full garrisions in both my castles and about 70 troops with me, costs are becoming an issue, Guess you have to get lords at this point eh? otherwise you wont be able to pay your army...
You need high leadership once you get into the castle garrisoning business.
Darkchampion3d on
Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence --Thomas Jefferson
Are there any tips on how to use the polearms? I remember being a killing machine with them before I stopped playing, but I can't seem to hit squat now.
Couscous on
0
ElldrenIs a woman dammitceterum censeoRegistered Userregular
Are there any tips on how to use the polearms? I remember being a killing machine with them before I stopped playing, but I can't seem to hit squat now.
get a polearm. Length>speed>damage
Get a horse.
Mount the horse with the polearm.
Run at things and point the polearm at them.
watch them die.
Are there any tips on how to use the polearms? I remember being a killing machine with them before I stopped playing, but I can't seem to hit squat now.
get a polearm. Length>speed>damage
Get a horse. Mount the horse with the polearm.
Run at things and point the polearm at them.
watch them die.
Didnt seem to work. Am I doing it wrong.
Darkchampion3d on
Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence --Thomas Jefferson
Are there any tips on how to use the polearms? I remember being a killing machine with them before I stopped playing, but I can't seem to hit squat now.
get a polearm. Length>speed>damage
Get a horse. Mount the horse with the polearm.
Run at things and point the polearm at them.
watch them die.
Didnt seem to work. Am I doing it wrong.
You need to strap the polearm on at several points, that way it stays straight when it hits rather than bouncing around.
Also that image for new m&b unit, get rid of the useless knights!
How do you tell your heroes how they should train? I don't see that option
Ask them for their stats, you can allocate points from there.
As far as riderless horses go, anyone ever seen a message stating that some random unit has died, with no indication of the source? I'm fairly sure that means that the victim was run down by a riderless horse.
Ok, maybe the problem is my heroes just haven't advanced a level. Which is weird, because they're both very low level, there's only 2 of them, and I've been in 3-4 battles with them.
Do they gain XP like regular units (earning XP from being in a battle) or do they gain it like me (only earn XP from blasting fools in the face)?
TekDragon on
0
The Black HunterThe key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple,unimpeachable reason to existRegistered Userregular
Ok, maybe the problem is my heroes just haven't advanced a level. Which is weird, because they're both very low level, there's only 2 of them, and I've been in 3-4 battles with them.
Do they gain XP like regular units (earning XP from being in a battle) or do they gain it like me (only earn XP from blasting fools in the face)?
You, your troops, and your companions all earn experience by getting kills, participating in victorious battles, and benefitting from the Trainer skill daily.
I'd say troops gain the most from Trainer, companions gain the most from participation, and you gain the most from getting kills.
Are there any tips on how to use the polearms? I remember being a killing machine with them before I stopped playing, but I can't seem to hit squat now.
get a polearm. Length>speed>damage
Get a horse.
Mount the horse with the polearm.
Run at things and point the polearm at them.
watch them die.
It is the fourth part that I have trouble with. I keep on accidentally running them over with my horse for crap damage instead of hitting them with the polearm for massive damage.
Now I'm stuck debating between going with the northerners and their cool Rangers, or the red dudes (who can resist an army of Halberdiers and Longbowmen?).
No one says you have to choose. Do a three-month mercenary contract with one then the other. They're both excellent factions. Try to pick the one with the least amount of wars going on first.
So I decided to start up Pendor as my first foray back into M&B in about four months. I never even knew this mod existed, since I stuck with stuff closer to Native. I'm a bit at a loss as to where to begin getting my troops from. Ravenstern for the Rangers maybe?
korodullin on
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
depends on what you like tbh... it's fun to put your archers up on a hilltop and watch them destroy anything that tries to get close. I for one like Huscarls and going into melee on foot with my axe. Easiest way to win is probably stacking as much heavy cavalry as you possibly can and trampling down everything that stands in your way.
That said, I now have about 10 demonic warriors in my heavy cavalry troop, insane stuff... insane i tell you, the d'shar are falling like so many sarasins, and their attacks break like waves upon a rocky cliff
Would it be possible to hire a bunch of archers, tell them to wait on a hill, and then attack the enemy a decent ways away in order to prevent the enemy from attacking and raping them?
Would it be possible to hire a bunch of archers, tell them to wait on a hill, and then attack the enemy a decent ways away in order to prevent the enemy from attacking and raping them?
Yep. Press backspace when you're in a battle to give specific orders to your archers, infantry and cavalry.
I really need to take better control of my troops, I just charge in with a mass of cavalry and horse archers.
The first charge is epic tho.
If the enemy has a bunch of well-trained cavalry, the initial charge won't go in my favor. I'll try to approach the enemy on a terrain that hinders those troops, although I have very little to time to prepare because they're on top of my guys so fast. Flat battlefields with no features? Yeah, I'm hosed.
If the enemy has a bunch of well-trained infantry, then I'll order my cavalry to follow me and strafe their troops. If I try to lead a break through them, my cavalry will just get stopped and cut down. If I only charge through the less-defended flanks, my guys will take out several on each pass with minimal casualties.
I was curious, how exactly do you go about recruits lords to your kingdom in PoP? I have 2 castles and 1 large town, but I have not seen any options when talking to other lords or to my stewards about hiring lords.
Also the guy with 10 demonic warriors, were those prisoners turned allies or did you upgrade them up from lower troops?
What's the deal with Party skills? Do they stack? Highest value in the party?
I'm pretty sure training works for each hero (and thus stacks across multiple heroes), but what about surgery, pathfinding, looting, inventory, leadership, trading, and skills like that?
I was curious, how exactly do you go about recruits lords to your kingdom in PoP? I have 2 castles and 1 large town, but I have not seen any options when talking to other lords or to my stewards about hiring lords.
Also the guy with 10 demonic warriors, were those prisoners turned allies or did you upgrade them up from lower troops?
Only way I've found:
Get them to +31 reputation, fight and capture them. Then talk to them while they are your prisoners and there will be an option to let them join.
And yes, that means that as the King you don't get to take part in the lucrative ransom trade, as you will be releasing most nobles to make them like you so you can eventually steal them.
It's either that or just try to get what you can by completely crushing enemy kingdoms and getting nobles via the redistribution.
Darkchampion3d on
Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence --Thomas Jefferson
I'm really enjoying PoP, but I wish it had some elements from Expanded Gameplay III like the char creation, faster horses, bigger troops and refined weapon requirements. Its too bad the EG3 map looks like as and continually crashes.
Lords: You've got to recruit existing lords to serve under you. When you meet them, there should be the choice "I'd like to ask you something" and the option to recruit them should be there, IIRC. You can then assign lords to specific castles by Camp -> Action.
As for skills, I know Leadership, Inventory, and Looting are PC char only (meaning only yours matters). I don't believe others stack, it just takes the highest available.
Would it be possible to hire a bunch of archers, tell them to wait on a hill, and then attack the enemy a decent ways away in order to prevent the enemy from attacking and raping them?
Select archers with '3', tell them to hold a position with F3. F5 makes them hold their fire, hit it again to loose arrows.
My favorite tactic is just what you're asking about - I put them in a good position and have them hold fire. Once the enemy is well within range them them fire and I charge. You don't need to do much - just run circles around them, hacking and running down the odd guy, etc. It confuses the enemy and they'll just mill around while arrows rain down on them. Plus, many will have their back to your archers - good when facing infantry with large shields.
This doesn't work so well against large numbers of cavalry though.
What is a good length for a polearm? The longest I have found has a reach to 150.
I've got a 200 length lance, but it's a bit too long for my taste. 175 is a good medium I would guess. But I have a 150 reach Halberd to fall back on, in any case.
Would it be possible to hire a bunch of archers, tell them to wait on a hill, and then attack the enemy a decent ways away in order to prevent the enemy from attacking and raping them?
Select archers with '3', tell them to hold a position with F3. F5 makes them hold their fire, hit it again to loose arrows.
My favorite tactic is just what you're asking about - I put them in a good position and have them hold fire. Once the enemy is well within range them them fire and I charge. You don't need to do much - just run circles around them, hacking and running down the odd guy, etc. It confuses the enemy and they'll just mill around while arrows rain down on them. Plus, many will have their back to your archers - good when facing infantry with large shields.
This doesn't work so well against large numbers of cavalry though.
F3 defaults to "Charge", by the way. F1 is Hold Position.
korodullin on
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
How do you knock people unconcious instead of killing them?
Blunt weapons? The king has assigned me to follow a spy to a meeting spot with his master and to take them alive, but I'm not really sure how to do this, especially since my army just murders them all.
How do you knock people unconcious instead of killing them?
Blunt weapons? The king has assigned me to follow a spy to a meeting spot with his master and to take them alive, but I'm not really sure how to do this, especially since my army just murders them all.
Blunt weapons. I think you also need the skill for managing prisoners.
How exactly does aiming work with polearms? Do I need to aim it horizontally, vertically, or both with the camera?
I assume we're talking about couched Polearms.
In my experience, mouse look is important for aiming your lance, as it control the height and the angle. My best results for running down infantry is to usually look down and to the right, so that you virtually looking overhead.
Best bet of course tho is just try it out in the training grounds.
How exactly does aiming work with polearms? Do I need to aim it horizontally, vertically, or both with the camera?
I assume we're talking about couched Polearms.
In my experience, mouse look is important for aiming your lance, as it control the height and the angle. My best results for running down infantry is to usually look down and to the right, so that you virtually looking overhead.
Best bet of course tho is just try it out in the training grounds.
And if you miss, you just trample whoever you were aiming at and just try to hit whoever else is in front of you.
Just make sure you aim your lance at their horse if they are riding one, and be careful around enemies who like to couched lance charge you back. Anaconda knights especially are incredibly dangerous in my experience. The bastards are professionals at making my horse lame.
Darkchampion3d on
Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence --Thomas Jefferson
Posts
Personally I have no idea how to do the whole thing with the making countries.
talk to steward
kingdom
That first bit? I'm really really really bad at.
They need to be good
Try to get the defenders to repeatedly sally out into your flock of Gladiators/knights, use a crossbow to take out archers from the walls with your men hiding behind a hill or some such etc etc
One problem though, Ive got full garrisions in both my castles and about 70 troops with me, costs are becoming an issue, Guess you have to get lords at this point eh? otherwise you wont be able to pay your army...
I was looking at doing the following:
Prophesy Of Pendor
The current mod of mods, start your own kingdom, find magical weapons, dominate your enemies!
Graphical Enhancement Mod 2.5
Makes the game look shiny and way better.
PunkT Hi-Res Textures
Overhauls the world map textures without adding any new land features to screw up the game! Looks like google earth.
Battle Map Textures
Makes the battle map look nicer.
Ocean and Blood Fix
Improves ocean and blood animations/textures.
You need high leadership once you get into the castle garrisoning business.
get a polearm. Length>speed>damage
Get a horse.
Mount the horse with the polearm.
Run at things and point the polearm at them.
watch them die.
Didnt seem to work. Am I doing it wrong.
You need to strap the polearm on at several points, that way it stays straight when it hits rather than bouncing around.
Also that image for new m&b unit, get rid of the useless knights!
Ask them for their stats, you can allocate points from there.
As far as riderless horses go, anyone ever seen a message stating that some random unit has died, with no indication of the source? I'm fairly sure that means that the victim was run down by a riderless horse.
Do they gain XP like regular units (earning XP from being in a battle) or do they gain it like me (only earn XP from blasting fools in the face)?
You, your troops, and your companions all earn experience by getting kills, participating in victorious battles, and benefitting from the Trainer skill daily.
I'd say troops gain the most from Trainer, companions gain the most from participation, and you gain the most from getting kills.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
It is the fourth part that I have trouble with. I keep on accidentally running them over with my horse for crap damage instead of hitting them with the polearm for massive damage.
No one says you have to choose. Do a three-month mercenary contract with one then the other. They're both excellent factions. Try to pick the one with the least amount of wars going on first.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
That said, I now have about 10 demonic warriors in my heavy cavalry troop, insane stuff... insane i tell you, the d'shar are falling like so many sarasins, and their attacks break like waves upon a rocky cliff
Yep. Press backspace when you're in a battle to give specific orders to your archers, infantry and cavalry.
The first charge is epic tho.
If the enemy has a bunch of well-trained cavalry, the initial charge won't go in my favor. I'll try to approach the enemy on a terrain that hinders those troops, although I have very little to time to prepare because they're on top of my guys so fast. Flat battlefields with no features? Yeah, I'm hosed.
If the enemy has a bunch of well-trained infantry, then I'll order my cavalry to follow me and strafe their troops. If I try to lead a break through them, my cavalry will just get stopped and cut down. If I only charge through the less-defended flanks, my guys will take out several on each pass with minimal casualties.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
Also the guy with 10 demonic warriors, were those prisoners turned allies or did you upgrade them up from lower troops?
I'm pretty sure training works for each hero (and thus stacks across multiple heroes), but what about surgery, pathfinding, looting, inventory, leadership, trading, and skills like that?
Only way I've found:
Get them to +31 reputation, fight and capture them. Then talk to them while they are your prisoners and there will be an option to let them join.
And yes, that means that as the King you don't get to take part in the lucrative ransom trade, as you will be releasing most nobles to make them like you so you can eventually steal them.
It's either that or just try to get what you can by completely crushing enemy kingdoms and getting nobles via the redistribution.
Lords: You've got to recruit existing lords to serve under you. When you meet them, there should be the choice "I'd like to ask you something" and the option to recruit them should be there, IIRC. You can then assign lords to specific castles by Camp -> Action.
As for skills, I know Leadership, Inventory, and Looting are PC char only (meaning only yours matters). I don't believe others stack, it just takes the highest available.
My favorite tactic is just what you're asking about - I put them in a good position and have them hold fire. Once the enemy is well within range them them fire and I charge. You don't need to do much - just run circles around them, hacking and running down the odd guy, etc. It confuses the enemy and they'll just mill around while arrows rain down on them. Plus, many will have their back to your archers - good when facing infantry with large shields.
This doesn't work so well against large numbers of cavalry though.
I've got a 200 length lance, but it's a bit too long for my taste. 175 is a good medium I would guess. But I have a 150 reach Halberd to fall back on, in any case.
F3 defaults to "Charge", by the way. F1 is Hold Position.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Blunt weapons? The king has assigned me to follow a spy to a meeting spot with his master and to take them alive, but I'm not really sure how to do this, especially since my army just murders them all.
Blunt weapons. I think you also need the skill for managing prisoners.
I assume we're talking about couched Polearms.
In my experience, mouse look is important for aiming your lance, as it control the height and the angle. My best results for running down infantry is to usually look down and to the right, so that you virtually looking overhead.
Best bet of course tho is just try it out in the training grounds.
And if you miss, you just trample whoever you were aiming at and just try to hit whoever else is in front of you.
Just make sure you aim your lance at their horse if they are riding one, and be careful around enemies who like to couched lance charge you back. Anaconda knights especially are incredibly dangerous in my experience. The bastards are professionals at making my horse lame.