haven't had my port + dark chocolate therapy in like a year
The greatest therapy.
I introduced Sarukun to the pairing when we hit up a wine bar in LA earlier this summer. It's a thing of deliciousness.
DrZiplock on
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
Wine:
Barefoot Chardonay, half a bottle (fridge)
Tawny Port, 3/4 bottle (not fridge)
Some red I brought back from CA, 1 bottle.
I recommend trying the port with a little chill on it
I will sometimes do that, especially in the summer.
15 minutes in the fridge before pouring a glass. Not cold, but juuuust chilled.
DrZiplock on
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
Glass of Blue Moon beer with a shot of Sparks Orange in it.
okay, i'm all over this.
Seriously.
Bartender is an old friend down in Ocean City and I ordered a blue moon. He looked smiled, cracked open a can and dumped a shot in. My face was and then :? which moved right on to 8-).
have a barwench friend in ashburn that introduced me to orange tic tacs: stoli orange and red bull. almost needed an intervention the first night. but they couldn't catch me.
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"Think of it as Evolution in Action"
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Raneadospolice apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered Userregular
Your introduction to the awfulness that is "Beetlejuice". The history behind beetlejuice is quite mysterious. No-one knows which brave drinker first made it. I got it off a fellow drinker who himself got it off a guy in a dodgy pub in 1997.
1 slightly warm pint glass
2 shots apalling house vodka
1 bottle blue WKD
1 bottle Orange Reef
The results look a bit like a Chernobyl Smoothie and will fuck your brain to the point that by the time you reach your fourth pint you are running around looking for someone to poke in the eye.
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
to each, their own. i will not fault you for having defective taste buds. on my aunts farm all we drink is even williams and jim beam. sometimes with sun drop.
to each, their own. i will not fault you for having defective taste buds. on my aunts farm all we drink is even williams and jim beam. sometimes with sun drop.
then we laugh at cows.
You see, one of these products is Bourbon.
One of them is not.
Guess which one is the real stuff.
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cadmunkyOne hand on the bottle,The other a shaking fist.Registered Userregular
indeed. especially when you finish it off with an $800 bar tab.
thanks d3thmommy.
Pardon?
Are you suggesting that the little woman helped you ring up an 800 buck tab and then made you put back a jager bomb?
DrZiplock on
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
i'm a rather big fan of alcohol, but it causes a lot of problems in (american)society
i don't really smoke weed, but i'm an advocate for it's legalization because it's silly that alcohol is fine but it is not
A lot of what I'm about to tell you is subject to conjecture and or urban myth surrounding the history of American Whiskey. Take my words with a grain of salt as I am no Yale educated historian but rather a man who has spent many a year on the business end of a bar and heard many a yarn about two men mired in the annals of our country's drinking history. Those men and their associated spirits are Evan Williams and Jack Daniels.
You've all heard of Mr. Daniels but who is this Evan Willams fellow you ask? Well I'll bet you a nickel that his product is available at your local liquor store. I'll even bet you another that you've noticed it on the shelf and dismissed it for a very unfortunate reason. Let me explain.
This is a bottle of Jack Daniels "Tennessee Whiskey(I'll get into that later)" like one that you will see in your local liquor store or any bar in America.
Now look a couple of shelves down and you will see this.
Now you're saying "Oh yea, Evan Williams, that generic Jack Daniels shit." This could not be further from the truth. Evan Williams was established in 1783 in Bourbon County Kentucky and is credited as being Kentucky's first Bourbon. The techniques by which Evan Willams was originally and still to this day is made has become the yard stick by which all American Whiskeys are measured. Then "Why" you’re asking "does the bottle look just like Jack Daniels?"
Jack Daniels Distillery claims to have been founded in 1866 in Lynchburg Tennessee (historians currently believe the real date to be in the mid eighteen seventies) almost a hundred years after Evan Williams had been bottling with their trademark square bottle with the black label. This is where fuzzy history and the conspiracy theories set in. The bourbon business in the late nineteenth century was a tumultuous trade. During the expansion of the frontier in the West several new distilleries were sprouting up in states like Virginia, Tennessee, Missouri, or even places as far West as Kansas or as North as New York to fuel the livers of those brave frontiersmen and outlaws alike. Even in Canada or countries in Europe distilleries were monopolizing on the “Bourbon” brand. While all this was happening the owners of the original Kentucky distilleries were trying to protect the brand and traditions of what America had come to know as Bourbon. Several spirits, some no more than maple colored moonshine, were being sold as Bourbon across the country by these imitators and it seemed that the very traditions of the South were at stake. Southern pride had recently taken a hell of a whipping and they weren’t about to let a bunch of foreigners and Yankees tell them what Bourbon was.
A series of Congressional resolutions over the years tried to dictate exactly what could be sold as Bourbon or Whiskey for that matter in the United States. What followed was many opportunists foreign and domestic alike who tried to sidestep the measures put in place to get their product to the mouths of the sons of the soil who had grown up with the spirit. One such opportunist was Jack Daniels. He realized that all the quibbling over whether you used sour mash, distilled in Bourbon County Kentucky, or aged in charred oak barrels was academic for one simple reason. Bourbon drinkers were by far mostly illiterate. All Mr. Daniels had to do was approximate the taste of real Bourbon and package it in the one thing the hillbillies of the day would recognize. The square black labeled bottle of Evan Williams that their fathers and grandfathers before them had drank. He called his new product “Tennessee Whiskey” in an effort to avoid the complications associated with labeling a spirit Bourbon but, as I said, few were really reading the label.
A feud between the to companies sparked and went on in relative silence as far as the buying public was concerned for several decades until it was rendered moot in 1920 with the 18th Amendment and the prohibition of alcohol in the United States. In the thirteen years that followed the American distilleries tried to make due by merely exporting their product to places like Canada and Europe, only to have it smuggled back into the states by bootleggers, but these sales were dismal in comparison to the era of pre-prohibition.
Evan Williams had not fared well in the feud and there are to this day stories of the underhanded tactics used by Jack Daniels in trying to bury the label they had tried so hard to emulate. When Prohibition was repealed in 1933 The Jack Daniels company had survived the storm of prohibition the best of the old American distilleries and was able to get a strangle hold on the American market as the streets once again flowed with Whiskey. Sadly to this day when most people think American Whiskey they think Jack Daniels and not the age old tradition of Kentucky Bourbon.
Evan Williams struggled for decades and despite the ironic stigma of being a Jack Daniels imitator it still to this day makes bourbon the way they have for over two hundred years. In recent years the brand has been making a name for itself once again and has been wining several awards and ribbons for its classic Black Label. It retains that smooth taste associated with Bourbons seemingly superior and vastly more expensive and lacks the overly smoky taste often associated with brands such as Jim Beam or the harsh sweetness of Jack Daniels.
Over the years Evan Williams has refused to compromise their classic bottle design and label despite its unfortunate association. Another thing they have refused to compromise is the price. Evan Williams was founded as the spirit of the everyman. That simple and elegant indulgence that both a country farmer and Southern gentleman could enjoy and appreciate. When I go to my neighborhood liquor store I saunter over to the Whiskey section, hitch my pants a bit and take a knee as my eyes pass over such brands as Knob Creek, Jack Daniels, and Jim Beam in descending order until I finally see good old Evan Williams sitting sadly on the bottom shelf. I proudly grab myself a bottle and when I get to the checkout isle and shell out eight bucks for a liter I am confident in the knowledge that while I could afford the hundred dollar bottle on the top shelf behind the locked glass in the fancy wooden box, my wallet isn't making this purchase, my taste is.
Now, one might be better than another and all that battling stuff aside...they are both bourbons.
DrZiplock on
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
Now, one might be better than another and all that battling stuff aside...they are both bourbons.
Jack Daniels isn't Bourbon, hence why it doesn't say Bourbon on the bottle.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2009
I like my vodka neat.
Munkus Beaver on
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Now, one might be better than another and all that battling stuff aside...they are both bourbons.
Jack Daniels isn't Bourbon, hence why it doesn't say Bourbon on the bottle.
You know, I'm going to hate admitting this, but yep. Further research beyond what you posted proves I have spoken incorrectly.
DrZiplock on
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
1 bottle of Captain Morgan White Rum
1 half bottle of Appleton Special Amber Rum
1 nearly full bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Amber Rum
1 completely unopened bottle of some random white whine I got back in April for my housewarming
6 bottles of Labatt 50 in mah fridge
3 bottles of MGD sitting beside that
1 bottle of Captain Morgan White Rum
1 half bottle of Appleton Special Amber Rum
1 nearly full bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Amber Rum
1 completely unopened bottle of some random white whine I got back in April for my housewarming
6 bottles of Labatt 50 in mah fridge
3 bottles of MGD sitting beside that
1 bottle of Captain Morgan White Rum
1 half bottle of Appleton Special Amber Rum
1 nearly full bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Amber Rum
1 completely unopened bottle of some random white whine I got back in April for my housewarming
6 bottles of Labatt 50 in mah fridge
3 bottles of MGD sitting beside that
Don't you live in Edmonton?
Winnipeg actually, what are you getting at I wonder...?
Call me whatever type of name you like, I refuse to appologize for enjoying Labatt 50, that stuff is delicious and I'd never choose any other beer for drinking while I bbq.
1 bottle of Captain Morgan White Rum
1 half bottle of Appleton Special Amber Rum
1 nearly full bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Amber Rum
1 completely unopened bottle of some random white whine I got back in April for my housewarming
6 bottles of Labatt 50 in mah fridge
3 bottles of MGD sitting beside that
Don't you live in Edmonton?
Winnipeg actually, what are you getting at I wonder...?
Call me whatever type of name you like, I refuse to appologize for enjoying Labatt 50, that stuff is delicious and I'd never choose any other beer for drinking while I bbq.
Oh, I wouldn't call you names. I just feel pity for you.
"zip, i dunno what it is about you, but there's something very cat-like about your face. i can't really place it. you'd make a good mountain lion." Hail, Satan!Satans Post
Posts
The greatest therapy.
I introduced Sarukun to the pairing when we hit up a wine bar in LA earlier this summer. It's a thing of deliciousness.
I will sometimes do that, especially in the summer.
15 minutes in the fridge before pouring a glass. Not cold, but juuuust chilled.
I'll be here all week
god knows I got nowhere else to be
I said that in class the other day and this girl laughed so long that it became obvious that she was laughing not at my joke but at me personally
have a barwench friend in ashburn that introduced me to orange tic tacs: stoli orange and red bull. almost needed an intervention the first night. but they couldn't catch me.
"Think of it as Evolution in Action"
but mix it with anything and it becomes delicious
really surprised i haven't swapped the red bull for sparks yet, but that's the plan. i just don't stock vodka of any kind at the house.
and, love me some sandemans tawny with a nice a. fuente maduro. so cheesie, i know.
"Think of it as Evolution in Action"
1 slightly warm pint glass
2 shots apalling house vodka
1 bottle blue WKD
1 bottle Orange Reef
The results look a bit like a Chernobyl Smoothie and will fuck your brain to the point that by the time you reach your fourth pint you are running around looking for someone to poke in the eye.
Steam
Hands down.
Jager is worse.
Combined? No.
the stuff of nightmares
to each, their own. i will not fault you for having defective taste buds. on my aunts farm all we drink is even williams and jim beam. sometimes with sun drop.
then we laugh at cows.
"Think of it as Evolution in Action"
You see, one of these products is Bourbon.
One of them is not.
Guess which one is the real stuff.
indeed. especially when you finish it off with an $800 bar tab.
thanks d3thmommy.
"Think of it as Evolution in Action"
Pardon?
Are you suggesting that the little woman helped you ring up an 800 buck tab and then made you put back a jager bomb?
i don't really smoke weed, but i'm an advocate for it's legalization because it's silly that alcohol is fine but it is not
You've all heard of Mr. Daniels but who is this Evan Willams fellow you ask? Well I'll bet you a nickel that his product is available at your local liquor store. I'll even bet you another that you've noticed it on the shelf and dismissed it for a very unfortunate reason. Let me explain.
This is a bottle of Jack Daniels "Tennessee Whiskey(I'll get into that later)" like one that you will see in your local liquor store or any bar in America.
Now look a couple of shelves down and you will see this.
Now you're saying "Oh yea, Evan Williams, that generic Jack Daniels shit." This could not be further from the truth. Evan Williams was established in 1783 in Bourbon County Kentucky and is credited as being Kentucky's first Bourbon. The techniques by which Evan Willams was originally and still to this day is made has become the yard stick by which all American Whiskeys are measured. Then "Why" you’re asking "does the bottle look just like Jack Daniels?"
Jack Daniels Distillery claims to have been founded in 1866 in Lynchburg Tennessee (historians currently believe the real date to be in the mid eighteen seventies) almost a hundred years after Evan Williams had been bottling with their trademark square bottle with the black label. This is where fuzzy history and the conspiracy theories set in. The bourbon business in the late nineteenth century was a tumultuous trade. During the expansion of the frontier in the West several new distilleries were sprouting up in states like Virginia, Tennessee, Missouri, or even places as far West as Kansas or as North as New York to fuel the livers of those brave frontiersmen and outlaws alike. Even in Canada or countries in Europe distilleries were monopolizing on the “Bourbon” brand. While all this was happening the owners of the original Kentucky distilleries were trying to protect the brand and traditions of what America had come to know as Bourbon. Several spirits, some no more than maple colored moonshine, were being sold as Bourbon across the country by these imitators and it seemed that the very traditions of the South were at stake. Southern pride had recently taken a hell of a whipping and they weren’t about to let a bunch of foreigners and Yankees tell them what Bourbon was.
A series of Congressional resolutions over the years tried to dictate exactly what could be sold as Bourbon or Whiskey for that matter in the United States. What followed was many opportunists foreign and domestic alike who tried to sidestep the measures put in place to get their product to the mouths of the sons of the soil who had grown up with the spirit. One such opportunist was Jack Daniels. He realized that all the quibbling over whether you used sour mash, distilled in Bourbon County Kentucky, or aged in charred oak barrels was academic for one simple reason. Bourbon drinkers were by far mostly illiterate. All Mr. Daniels had to do was approximate the taste of real Bourbon and package it in the one thing the hillbillies of the day would recognize. The square black labeled bottle of Evan Williams that their fathers and grandfathers before them had drank. He called his new product “Tennessee Whiskey” in an effort to avoid the complications associated with labeling a spirit Bourbon but, as I said, few were really reading the label.
A feud between the to companies sparked and went on in relative silence as far as the buying public was concerned for several decades until it was rendered moot in 1920 with the 18th Amendment and the prohibition of alcohol in the United States. In the thirteen years that followed the American distilleries tried to make due by merely exporting their product to places like Canada and Europe, only to have it smuggled back into the states by bootleggers, but these sales were dismal in comparison to the era of pre-prohibition.
Evan Williams had not fared well in the feud and there are to this day stories of the underhanded tactics used by Jack Daniels in trying to bury the label they had tried so hard to emulate. When Prohibition was repealed in 1933 The Jack Daniels company had survived the storm of prohibition the best of the old American distilleries and was able to get a strangle hold on the American market as the streets once again flowed with Whiskey. Sadly to this day when most people think American Whiskey they think Jack Daniels and not the age old tradition of Kentucky Bourbon.
Evan Williams struggled for decades and despite the ironic stigma of being a Jack Daniels imitator it still to this day makes bourbon the way they have for over two hundred years. In recent years the brand has been making a name for itself once again and has been wining several awards and ribbons for its classic Black Label. It retains that smooth taste associated with Bourbons seemingly superior and vastly more expensive and lacks the overly smoky taste often associated with brands such as Jim Beam or the harsh sweetness of Jack Daniels.
Over the years Evan Williams has refused to compromise their classic bottle design and label despite its unfortunate association. Another thing they have refused to compromise is the price. Evan Williams was founded as the spirit of the everyman. That simple and elegant indulgence that both a country farmer and Southern gentleman could enjoy and appreciate. When I go to my neighborhood liquor store I saunter over to the Whiskey section, hitch my pants a bit and take a knee as my eyes pass over such brands as Knob Creek, Jack Daniels, and Jim Beam in descending order until I finally see good old Evan Williams sitting sadly on the bottom shelf. I proudly grab myself a bottle and when I get to the checkout isle and shell out eight bucks for a liter I am confident in the knowledge that while I could afford the hundred dollar bottle on the top shelf behind the locked glass in the fancy wooden box, my wallet isn't making this purchase, my taste is.
will it get me drunk? that's all i care about
He wrote
http://www.amazon.com/Bartender-Journals-Dave-Lawrence/dp/142571465X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209448986&sr=8-1
It's an excellent book and I would recommend it to anyone who even thinks they want to be a bartender.
Not only will it get you drunk, but at $8 a bottle you could buy 5 of them for the price of one bottle of Jack Daniels.
Now, one might be better than another and all that battling stuff aside...they are both bourbons.
you just... have some not so great experiences trying to find out which ones those are
Jack Daniels isn't Bourbon, hence why it doesn't say Bourbon on the bottle.
You know, I'm going to hate admitting this, but yep. Further research beyond what you posted proves I have spoken incorrectly.
Sold.
Twitch (I stream most days of the week)
Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
1 half bottle of Appleton Special Amber Rum
1 nearly full bottle of Appleton Estate V/X Amber Rum
1 completely unopened bottle of some random white whine I got back in April for my housewarming
6 bottles of Labatt 50 in mah fridge
3 bottles of MGD sitting beside that
Twitch (I stream most days of the week)
Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
Don't you live in Edmonton?
Winnipeg actually, what are you getting at I wonder...?
Call me whatever type of name you like, I refuse to appologize for enjoying Labatt 50, that stuff is delicious and I'd never choose any other beer for drinking while I bbq.
Oh, I wouldn't call you names. I just feel pity for you.
Although I'm pretty sure I just like Scotch.
i hope it isn't gross
ha, i wish. more like 12 jaeger bombs.
for the house.
"Think of it as Evolution in Action"
okay, that is magical
i think I know what my 3rd will be
here's the question. what do I need to drink it in? (ie: something more substantial than a plastic cup.)