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Blogs...yep

MeepZeroMeepZero Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So I'm thinking about creating one of these newfangled "web logs" that I keep hearing about. While spending a bit of time today researching the most popular blog systems (basically Blogger or Wordpress) I think I'm ready to settle into some sexy Wordpress action. However I've hit a minor snag.

It needs a snazzy name!

What the hell am I writing about anyway?

What the hell do people want to read in a silly blog?

These are my questions. I was considering a tech blog of some kind, or maybe a game blog, probably both. At the moment I'm not interested in making money, really just something to have fun with.

Any recommendation? Questions? Ideas? Perhaps a haiku or something?

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2009
    Er...

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    Write what you enjoy? =)

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  • ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2009
    Damnable jail and not being able to post images ><

    The filename gives away what I was getting at anyhow.

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  • MeepZeroMeepZero Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    No I got you there, guess I could scratch out that question.

    So the other two items there. Need a name and opinions on blogger / wordpress if any.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Write what interests you. If you aren't interested in what you're writing, don't expect people to be interested in reading it. Then let the readers come to you.

    I've used blogger and still have the address, although I don't write to it anymore. It works well enough, but I decided to focus on developing my own site, which I'm still working on and is the reason I've abandoned it at this point.

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  • MeepZeroMeepZero Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    That was kind of why I was thinking about using wordpress. Easily moved to another location if I wanted to. That kinda fun stuff.

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I've used both blogger and Wordpress and I much prefer Wordpress. I feel like you can just do so much more with it.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    MeepZero wrote: »
    That was kind of why I was thinking about using wordpress. Easily moved to another location if I wanted to. That kinda fun stuff.

    Blogger will let you publish to an external domain and Wordpress will import content from Blogger if you decided to switch, but yeah, Wordpress is more awesome than Blogger so why not just start with it in the first place? You can get a free hosted account with Wordpress and then export the database to move it to a self-hosted blog if you want to in the future.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Unless this has changed somewhat recently, Wordpress does have a significant disadvantage compared to Blogger: if you want to edit your Wordpress CSS, you have to pay a small fee. Blogger lets you do it for free.

    (This only applies to Wordpress-hosted sites. If you use Wordpress on your own hosted domain, it's free.)

    Also, I use Wordpress for my website/novel, and while I generally like it and it's a very powerful tool, the high frequency of updates is somewhat annoying.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    Good point on the CSS. With Wordpress's free hosted option you are very much restricted to using one of their existing themes. The trade off is that Wordpress is a lot more customisable in terms of functionality, I think even in their free hosted option.

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  • edited August 2009
    I'd recommend Wordpress for ease of use. As far as name goes, just pick something that's relatively easy to remember. Perhaps your name or a variation on it.

    In terms of content, write about whatever interests you and keep to a schedule. Most people's blogs consist of every six months, they remember they have one, write a post about remembering to post more and then disappear for six more months. I've posted in mine nearly every day since February, even though I don't have a 'theme' or really even any purpose to write. If you write weekly, that's great. Always write weekly so people know to expect it. It'll help you keep readers.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Good point on the CSS. With Wordpress's free hosted option you are very much restricted to using one of their existing themes. The trade off is that Wordpress is a lot more customisable in terms of functionality, I think even in their free hosted option.
    I agree. Wordpress has more themes to choose from than Blogger and they are mostly prettier than Blogger's offerings.

    You might want to try out both and then just stick with whatever one you like better. But keep in mind, if you do ever have a hankering for learning how to do CSS, you'll have to pay $10 or $20 or something to do it for Wordpress (or buy and host your own domain).

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  • MeepZeroMeepZero Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    So a recap of what we have learned.

    Blogger is cool, Wordpress is better, except you have to pay to edit the css in the page. Wordpress has more to offer as far as themes and stuff. You can import Blogger into Wordpress.

    Names are difficult to think up...mostly because you don't want to sound like an idiot on the internet.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited August 2009
    And you can download WordPress and host it yourself.

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  • edited August 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    And you can download WordPress and host it yourself.

    If you get your hosting at Dreamhost, they have a very straightforward assistant for installing Wordpress (amongst other things). I got their New Year's sale deally with two years of hosting for about $20 and they occasionally have other sales as well.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    And you can download WordPress and host it yourself.

    If you get your hosting at Dreamhost, they have a very straightforward assistant for installing Wordpress (amongst other things). I got their New Year's sale deally with two years of hosting for about $20 and they occasionally have other sales as well.
    I also use (and would recommend) Dreamhost. They make installing Wordpress extremely easy.

    (Of course, I've never tried it on other web hosting companies, so I don't know.)

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2009
    installing it yourself is pretty easy anyway

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress

    Perhaps what I would recommend doing is just going to wordpress.com right now and creating a free hosted blog, choose any old name, make it private and start writing content and playing around with themes and widgets etc. This will let you get to know wordpress and create a big lump of content.

    Once your comfortable with it, have settled on what you like to write about and decide this blogging thing is for you, you can either export the database to transfer your content over to a self hosted blog or if you like the theme and name you've alredy chosen for your wordpress hosted blog, just stay where you are and switch it to public.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Not to be the detractor but if you are expecting your blog to actually go anywhere and you don't know what you want to write about then you are going about things poorly.

    Creating a trafficked blog requires some amount of work and consistent updates.


    Anyway, Wordpress is king and nothing is even remotely close to competing with it. Wordpress.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, that's why I'm suggesting doing a private blog in the first instance. It's a good way to figure out what you want to blog about.

    If you want to be Serious Buisiness about blogging you should check out problogger.com

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  • MeepZeroMeepZero Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    The thing thats holding me up still is the name. Is it possible to export all your posts to another blog or something using wordpress in the event that I spaz out and want to move to a different name?

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    yes

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, that's why I'm suggesting doing a private blog in the first instance. It's a good way to figure out what you want to blog about.

    If you want to be Serious Buisiness about blogging you should check out problogger.com
    I'm about to start a blog to launch a business, what are the advantages to problogger over wordpress?

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  • ShizumaruShizumaru Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Um.. since no one has mentioned it.. what is your purpose of making a blog? Just cause? Plan to segue into making money with it? This will greatly determine some options you may want to explore..

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Not to detract from the OP but it does seem to be the same area of help...

    My blog is rooted in a business concept and will (hopefully) make money. I assume advertising is the best way, but selling merchandise is also part of my plan. I started a blog on Wordpress kind of as a throw away just to get familiar with the process.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah, that's why I'm suggesting doing a private blog in the first instance. It's a good way to figure out what you want to blog about.

    If you want to be Serious Buisiness about blogging you should check out problogger.com
    I'm about to start a blog to launch a business, what are the advantages to problogger over wordpress?

    Problogger is a blog about blogging, not a software solution. As far as I'm aware, he uses wordpress. Unless I got the URL wrong in which case oops.

    I did get the URL wrong. Sorta. http://www.problogger.net/ is where the blog is, .com seems to be a forum he is starting. So yeah, check out problogger.net . Amongst other things, I'm sure he discusses revenue streams.

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  • ShizumaruShizumaru Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    One thing I'll mention.. if you plan to try and make money with blogging.. it has a whole lot more to do with marketing and understanding how the web works WAY more than 'blogging', or just writing words on a page.. if you just wanna write about stuff, cool.. if you wanna make money with it.. much much different.

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  • KealohaKealoha Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Wordpress is pretty much a given. However, you'll need http://support.wordpress.com/topic/media/ to figure out how to upload certain types of media (flickr slideshows, google maps, etc). And while those things might not interest you from the start, you need to remember what medium you're writing for. You're writing online: take advantage of all of the things you can do online. Don't write post after post of 1500 words. That's not what keeps people going to blogs.

    As much as people enjoy writing personal blogs, people don't really enjoy reading them. Something like 70% of all of the blogs in existence are diary-type blogs that really only interest the person writing them. So, you should most likely have a topic. It can be general. Dogs. Food. Games. Movies. You can (and should) put a personal spin on the topics you choose to write about under that blanket term. You should update often, but no more than once a day--if you happen to write more than one post in a day, set it to run the next morning. A lot of people utilize feed readers, and if you have too many updates a day it gets annoying and, also, your blog ultimately ends up coming up less on their reader, so if you want to get more hits, you spread out posts.

    The name of your blog should be short and memorable, and to be such it has to have something to do with the topic but also be kind of witty. This usually involves a bit of experimentation because of the hundreds of thousands of blogs out there, one of them probably has the name you think is unique and perfect.

    If you want to talk about becoming popular, you need to visit other blogs and comment on them (with your profile, leaving a link to your blog). Something meaningful, not just a "Hey, this was cool. Check out my blog!"

    It also helps to get your blog listed on others' blogrolls, which is something you can offer to trade. That is, you can have a link to someone's blog on your site in exchange for them linking to yours. The more links to your blog that exist on the internet, the more credence search engines will give to it, so if someone searches for food, movies, or dogs, your blog will be higher up in the results.

    This is kind of getting off on a tangent. But, lastly: Twitter. Use twellowhood, find people who are tweeting about things you are blogging about, and follow them. Advertise every new blog post on your twitter. This helps a lot, and is really where the sometimes useless Twitter shines.

    I have more to say, but that's it for now. Hope that helps a little.

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