Samurai, am I right in thinking that your game had no mafia, and the red vote didn't kill? Because if so, you probably could have run it as a Forum Game instead of a mini.
Something to bear in mind if/when you get around to running it again, and don't want to be stuck in a queue for minis. :^:
I'm going to do some changes with it so the red vote has more sting. But that's a good idea.
Of course, if he had ran it as a Forum Game instead of a mini, people would not have been as distrustful of the cheaters on their own team. So there's that psychology element to its branding there.
Samurai, am I right in thinking that your game had no mafia, and the red vote didn't kill? Because if so, you probably could have run it as a Forum Game instead of a mini.
Something to bear in mind if/when you get around to running it again, and don't want to be stuck in a queue for minis. :^:
I'm going to do some changes with it so the red vote has more sting. But that's a good idea.
Of course, if he had ran it as a Forum Game instead of a mini, people would not have been as distrustful of the cheaters on their own team. So there's that psychology element to its branding there.
Misleading games are against the rules though too, calling it a Phalla to trick people when it's not really a Mafia type game falls under "no joke games" I figure.
Samurai, am I right in thinking that your game had no mafia, and the red vote didn't kill? Because if so, you probably could have run it as a Forum Game instead of a mini.
Something to bear in mind if/when you get around to running it again, and don't want to be stuck in a queue for minis. :^:
I'm going to do some changes with it so the red vote has more sting. But that's a good idea.
Of course, if he had ran it as a Forum Game instead of a mini, people would not have been as distrustful of the cheaters on their own team. So there's that psychology element to its branding there.
Misleading games are against the rules though too, calling it a Phalla to trick people when it's not really a Mafia type game falls under "no joke games" I figure.
Sorry for the size, but I realize posts often get lost in the sea of a large thread. Anyway down to the niddy gritty, I'm looking for someone who is familiar with the show Samurai Jack and has at least some hosting under their belt.
Essentially what I'm looking for is someone to chat to about the mechanics I've devised and for them to asses how fair/balanced they are. And if they feel so inclined, offer alternatives if need be.
You wouldn't necessarily have to be an active force while the game is underway. But if you feel like it I wouldn't object.
If anyone feels like helping and know the show, it would be much appreciated
edit: If you are good with mechanics though and don't mind me filling you in show wise. You're welcome also.
Samurai, am I right in thinking that your game had no mafia, and the red vote didn't kill? Because if so, you probably could have run it as a Forum Game instead of a mini.
Something to bear in mind if/when you get around to running it again, and don't want to be stuck in a queue for minis. :^:
I'm going to do some changes with it so the red vote has more sting. But that's a good idea.
Of course, if he had ran it as a Forum Game instead of a mini, people would not have been as distrustful of the cheaters on their own team. So there's that psychology element to its branding there.
Misleading games are against the rules though too, calling it a Phalla to trick people when it's not really a Mafia type game falls under "no joke games" I figure.
meh, it was a faction game not a joke persay.
Yeah, if you want to call samurai's mini not a phalla, then the my-Hime mini was in dangerously gray territory at the very least.
Samurai, am I right in thinking that your game had no mafia, and the red vote didn't kill? Because if so, you probably could have run it as a Forum Game instead of a mini.
Something to bear in mind if/when you get around to running it again, and don't want to be stuck in a queue for minis. :^:
I'm going to do some changes with it so the red vote has more sting. But that's a good idea.
Of course, if he had ran it as a Forum Game instead of a mini, people would not have been as distrustful of the cheaters on their own team. So there's that psychology element to its branding there.
Misleading games are against the rules though too, calling it a Phalla to trick people when it's not really a Mafia type game falls under "no joke games" I figure.
meh, it was a faction game not a joke persay.
Yeah, if you want to call samurai's mini not a phalla, then the my-Hime mini was in dangerously gray territory at the very least.
I believe that phalla is taken a turn towards games like mine. Look at the last few. Burnage had a HP like system and My-Hime used the red vote as a seer. I think that we are just bored of plain phalla. Stuff like mine are just an elvolution of phalla. It keeps people playing as they feel they are in more control of their fate. Or maybe my insanity is contagious.
I'm fine with saying that my-Hime could have passed as a not-a-Phalla. If you don't have a daily vote that kills and an informed minority opposing an uninformed majority then you are straying away from what constitutes a "phalla". Looking at the most recent mains, the only one that doesn't quite fit that rule of thumb is Edcrab's, but that was because there were several small 'mafia-ish' factions; there was still an uninformed majority.
Games with fleshed out, unique villager roles have been around for a while; that's just due to hosts trying to prevent villager boredom. What's more likely to entertain someone? Being told that they're "a citizen", or that they're "Bob Bobson, a citizen catapulted into the conflict by a curious conflict constituted by a cosmic cat that killed your childhood chum"? Giving every player something extra to do, or just expecting two posts and a vote? Right.
Stuff like job classes, powers for all, and individual roles don't detract from a game actually being a phalla. Having no votekill and no mafia? Well... That sounds like it could be run as a forum game, really. Which shouldn't be taken as a criticism; it means that you can run it as soon as you'd like and with as many players as you'd like, after all.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. It's the Mafia mechanics that are common that make it Phalla, taking the periphery mechanics from game to game but not the core means that you have a game similar to a previous Phalla but is not itself a Phalla.
And man, I would so run a mini right now but I'm still swamped. I finished my midterms finally yesterday (seven of them total! ) and right now I think I just have a paper and a presentation to write left before finals... maybe soon.
I considered running My-Hime as a forum game rather than a mini, but as it was kind of toeing the line (the vote wasn't a kill, but it did have something of an uniformed majority vs informed minority going with the alternate win condition), and the mods recently tightening the rules on minis, I didn't want to look like I was trying to find a loophole on the phalla guidelines.
Burnage really hit the nail on the head about making villager roles interesting. Of the games I've played, the ones where I was a special have always been much more fun (I've never been mafia, by one of those bizarre quirks of chance), so in my games I've always focused on making everyone "special", even if it's only a non-gameplay post restriction power .
I considered running My-Hime as a forum game rather than a mini, but as it was kind of toeing the line (the vote wasn't a kill, but it did have something of an uniformed majority vs informed minority going with the alternate win condition), and the mods recently tightening the rules on minis, I didn't want to look like I was trying to find a loophole on the phalla guidelines.
Burnage really hit the nail on the head about making villager roles interesting. Of the games I've played, the ones where I was a special have always been much more fun (I've never been mafia, by one of those bizarre quirks of chance), so in my games I've always focused on making everyone "special", even if it's only a non-gameplay post restriction power .
You had uninformed majority and informed minority, as you say. You don't need every core mechanic necessarily, but if you have none well...
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
There is something to be said for a player base who comes in treating the game like a normal Phalla and how the game plays due to their expectations of mechanics that aren't really there.
And what can be said is that it's a lot of fun to watch
It's been about a month since the last time I sent out status update requests, so I've sent out another batch to try and clean up the list. We're currently without a person in 'Ready' status, so if your game is ready to run and you want to do the next game, let me know. If there are any other status changes you want to let me know about, I'll take note of those as well.
RaakamToo many years...CanadalandRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
Some time finally opened up, and I'm finishing up a few details to get a mini-phalla up by the end of the weekend. It'll be to test some mechanics to make sure it'll work in my bigger Phalla.
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I guess I'll tentatively sign up for a Color Wheel Phalla. I'm aiming for something with fully public mechanics and a fair number conversion mechanics.
It appears that nobody is currently ready to host the next main game. It's probably just as well, since Thanksgiving is coming up for all of us here in the States. If your game is ready to run, then you'll probably be next to go, but notify me just to make sure.
You can add me to the waitlist on the Color Wheel phalla, though I won't be ready to run it for a few weeks. I have most of the rules hashed out though.
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Toxic ToysAre you really taking my advice?Really?Registered Userregular
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Does any one have a game ready?
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Alright, I've pretty much finished up fleshing out the rules for the color wheel phalla, but I'm not going to be ready to run this for at least a week or so. I've done a bit of unorthodox stuff (a fair number of conversion and color based mechanics, the majority of kills are done through different vote counts), so if anyone has any suggestions on if I should change or rebalance things the rules are here. It's going to be a full public mechanics game so knowing everything ahead of time won't matter.
I've hit a roadblock as far as my Earthbound phalla, so I'm just going to shelve it for a while and come back to it in a week or two after finals end with renewed PSI points (provided I can find a few of those damned butterflies).
However, the Megaman mini has given me one heck of an idea for another major. So I'm going to work on that and hopefully I'll have a good folder full of games to run when I finally get a computer of my very own.
Well, hopefully TrueNeverborn is able to put his up by the weekend. He says he's ready, he's played a few games over the years, so I think things will be fine.
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So I'm considering running a "Bourne Phallacy" mini, although likely wouldn't be able to do so until after the new years. I will probably need the help of someone more experienced to evaluate it for balance before it starts or maybe to co-host, but right now I'm struggling with how to keep vanillagers occupied beyond the basic vote. Any general suggestions for dealing with this issue? At the moment I have a variety of roles at work but not enough for all 30 players.
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Raneadospolice apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered Userregular
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so uh
what's the protocol for making a game that is not phalla
I'm inventing a game and although it won't be ready to got for a while, I'm just wondering how I go about getting that approved
I PMed Echo but he never got back to me and Thanatos hates my guts
so phalla thread
who wants to help me with my not-phalla-related question
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Of course, if he had ran it as a Forum Game instead of a mini, people would not have been as distrustful of the cheaters on their own team. So there's that psychology element to its branding there.
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Misleading games are against the rules though too, calling it a Phalla to trick people when it's not really a Mafia type game falls under "no joke games" I figure.
meh, it was a faction game not a joke persay.
Hey guys
Sorry for the size, but I realize posts often get lost in the sea of a large thread. Anyway down to the niddy gritty, I'm looking for someone who is familiar with the show Samurai Jack and has at least some hosting under their belt.
Essentially what I'm looking for is someone to chat to about the mechanics I've devised and for them to asses how fair/balanced they are. And if they feel so inclined, offer alternatives if need be.
You wouldn't necessarily have to be an active force while the game is underway. But if you feel like it I wouldn't object.
If anyone feels like helping and know the show, it would be much appreciated
edit: If you are good with mechanics though and don't mind me filling you in show wise. You're welcome also.
Yeah, if you want to call samurai's mini not a phalla, then the my-Hime mini was in dangerously gray territory at the very least.
I believe that phalla is taken a turn towards games like mine. Look at the last few. Burnage had a HP like system and My-Hime used the red vote as a seer. I think that we are just bored of plain phalla. Stuff like mine are just an elvolution of phalla. It keeps people playing as they feel they are in more control of their fate. Or maybe my insanity is contagious.
Games with fleshed out, unique villager roles have been around for a while; that's just due to hosts trying to prevent villager boredom. What's more likely to entertain someone? Being told that they're "a citizen", or that they're "Bob Bobson, a citizen catapulted into the conflict by a curious conflict constituted by a cosmic cat that killed your childhood chum"? Giving every player something extra to do, or just expecting two posts and a vote? Right.
Stuff like job classes, powers for all, and individual roles don't detract from a game actually being a phalla. Having no votekill and no mafia? Well... That sounds like it could be run as a forum game, really. Which shouldn't be taken as a criticism; it means that you can run it as soon as you'd like and with as many players as you'd like, after all.
And man, I would so run a mini right now but I'm still swamped. I finished my midterms finally yesterday (seven of them total!
Burnage really hit the nail on the head about making villager roles interesting. Of the games I've played, the ones where I was a special have always been much more fun (I've never been mafia, by one of those bizarre quirks of chance), so in my games I've always focused on making everyone "special", even if it's only a non-gameplay post restriction power
You had uninformed majority and informed minority, as you say. You don't need every core mechanic necessarily, but if you have none well...
And what can be said is that it's a lot of fun to watch
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=105737
Let us play Phalla.
they don't it be like it is but it do
I might accelerate my plans to fix this
May have a main coming soon
You rang?
but I don't know who to ask permission from either.
There is no main, so free for all?
I kinda want to do a Mega Man mini.
However, the Megaman mini has given me one heck of an idea for another major. So I'm going to work on that and hopefully I'll have a good folder full of games to run when I finally get a computer of my very own.
I can has cheezburger, yes?
Got a weekend with a lot of travelling to sort it out on
A sequel to the Mega Man mini.
what's the protocol for making a game that is not phalla
I'm inventing a game and although it won't be ready to got for a while, I'm just wondering how I go about getting that approved
I PMed Echo but he never got back to me and Thanatos hates my guts
so phalla thread
who wants to help me with my not-phalla-related question
So uhh, PM Than? :P