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I Hate Bugs...

HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
Merry-fucking Christmas to me, I think I have lice. :?

I've not seen any of the actual bugs but I find tiny little bead-like, semi-transparent things in my hair, usualy stuck to the hair near the base. These would be the eggs. They look exactly like what I've seen in the pictures I checked.
I find 2-3 of them a month when I'm messing with my hair. That doesn't sound like very many, and they don't seem to have increased in number since I first noticed them close to 4 months ago(I didn't think anything of them until recently). So if I'm lucky they're remnants or dead eggs and there is no infestation, as I don't feel any itchiness or irritation and have not seen a single adult bug. My hair is fairly short so I think I would have felt or seen one by now, but who knows. Short of shaving my head it seems the fastest way to get rid of them is with a nit comb and some topical lice killing chemical. I think shaving my head would be faster and easier, but I'd look like a dolt.

I'm hoping someone here maybe has some advice on what to do or not do to speed up the process of getting rid of these things.
And no, it's not dandruff, it's not debris, and it's not hair product I put in my hair. They're too uniform in size and shape to be bits of gel or debris and dandruff doesn't get stuck to your hair.

God I hate bugs.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    Assuming you're in the US (I don't care enough to check), go out and buy some Rid. It's not that expensive, and it's better to drop a few bucks now and nuke those shits as opposed to running the risk of a full blown infestation.

    Check up online to see if they can infest your furniture or bed, since that might be their main hangout, only dropping a few eggs off on your head from time to time.

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  • SilverWindSilverWind Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    If you're sure it's lice, do the good thing and let anyone who might have come into contact with them know...? It's not the greatest thing in the world telling someone else, but hey... I'd really rather know of that possibility versus finding out, getting ticked off and confronting the likely culprit myself.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2006
    Be sure to throw some humor into it, though.

    You: I think I may have headlice. Since we've come into contact recently, it might be a good idea for you to take precautions.
    Them: What? You jerk. I could now potentially have headlice because of you.
    You: At least it's not herpes!

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Har. Har.

    I haven't, fortunately or not, been around anyone intimately for over 6 months thanks to my school schedule, and I live alone. I've also cancelled my trip home to see my family this holiday thanks to this. At first my parents thought it was some sort of weird excuse not to visit them. I wish.

    Apparently they're easy to kill. The bugs, not my parents. I got some permethrin conditioner you use after shampooing, and the special comb for getting them out of your hair. Hopefully this is over a week. The clinic said one application usually does the trick. I sure hope so.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! DownriverRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I don't know if this is necessary or not, but when my niece had it, they basically had to wash all of the clothes and sheets in the house and vacuum/dust/etc really well, on top of the usual "cleaning her scalp" thing. It might not be a bad idea to just give your house a thorough cleaning. Even if it's not necessary, at least you can be sure these things won't come back.

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Ironically I had just changed my sheets, couch cover, and done a thorough cleaning of my place a few days prior to finding this out. Arg. So now I have to do another one after I do the treatment. Oh well.

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well looks like the treatments are working, albeit rather slowly. I've done two permethrin conditioner treatments, the maximum suggested, and I have found new eggs(I know they're new because the bastards planted one on some stubble on my jaw only 1 day after shaving). This is in combination with combing through my hair for literally 3hrs/day every day and washing my laundry/bedding/etc. twice a week. They have only been reduced in numbers after all this effort.
    If school wasn't coming up in a week I'd just keep doing this, but when school hits I will have barely any time to sleep and eat properly let alone deal with this shit. So my only course of action that has any guarantee of working is... shaving my head and face to the skin for at least 2-3 days, in combination with laundry etc.

    I'm not trying to drag a dead thread up from the grave, I just want anyone else who might find my experience uselful to have access to it.

    I honestly suggest shaving your head if anyone has or gets head lice. Research, and now personal experience, has shown me lice have become resistant to permethrin and it's not exactly good for you anyway. It is a pesticide that is also used(in higher concentration), in agriculture.
    Even if you're a girl, I suggest it. Combing through your hair with the specialized comb takes forever and is not even guaranteed to get everything out, I actually had better success with my hands than the comb. I have short hair, approx. 3" long. It took me 3hrs. Think how long it would take someone with long hair. Besides, hair grows back. Chemical treatment could potentially permanently damage your hair follicles.

    The only other thing I can think of that would work is bleaching your hair, problem is they can get back onto your hair if they happen to be somewhere else at the time you bleached it, on your body or furniture, whatever. Shaving gives them nothing to lay eggs on or live in. As far as I know head lice don't like pubic hair or any other body hair except facial hair. I haven't found any after a thorough searching. In case you're wondering, crabs are an entirely different breed of lice, neither type tend to migrate from where they are typically found. But, if you want to be extra thorough you could shave everywhere I suppose.

    Anyway. Just thought I'd toss this out there and perhaps save someone time/money/aggravation.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    How do you guarantee that they're out of your clothes and stuff? A bug bomb?

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  • Re: nholderRe: nholder Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    When I got lice in the 7th grade my mom and I had to bag up everything in my room and leave in the garage for about 2 weeks. If the lice don't have any hair of anything to much on they die pretty quick.

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    They don't survive much longer than 24-48hrs without blood if they're adults, and if they're not adults yet they die in less than a day, as far as my research has told me.

    Also, shaving my head and face gives them nothing to lay eggs on, the eggs require your body heat to incubate properly, eggs don't often hatch if they are removed from your body(again this is according to research I've done). They need your hair for protection as well, I doubt hatched lice would last long on an exposed scalp, their limbs are designed to hold onto hair(this I have seen in videos, unfortunately I still have yet to find any of my own live lice, I only seem to find the eggs and the odd dead one). The only thing left are my eyebrows, which I can easily inspect. And as I mentioned above, they don't seem to like pubic hair. I've inspected mine every day and found nothing.

    Despite the fact they don't live long off the body, I still bagged all my clothes after hot-washing and putting them in the dryer. I don't intend to remove them until I find no more eggs or lice. Obviously I take clothes out in order to wear them when I go out, but I hot wash them immediately afterwards and re-bag them. I doubt the lice will survive on my clothes with that sort of treatment. I also have been doing the same thing with my bedding and furniture covers and vaccuming like an obessive-compulsive.

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  • SuperunknownSuperunknown Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I didn't fully shave my head when I got lice but I got a number 2 and then just used fancy pants lice killer on my scalp every once in a while and they were gone in a week or two, no bagging everything or burning shit, that's just embarassing overkill.

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    If I had time to wait for the permethrin to kill them(which I don't think it is)I wouldn't be going so extreme, but as I said, school starts up again pretty soon and it's a heavier work-load this semester, and last semester I barely had time to sleep and eat properly, so I seriously doubt I will have the time or energy to deal with this at the same time. That and the sooner they die the better.

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  • FibretipFibretip Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    my 4 year old started school last september and for christmas this year he brought us lice ;) my wife and I were up until god knows when on christmas eve doing the comb out routine.

    All the above people are correct when saying they can't live long without blood, my kids bed turned out to be covered in dead ones. They can't jump and don't have wings, so unless you've been sat in constant contact with someone's head, or they lay down on something right after you... it's unlikely they'll have them.

    Just to clarify incase anyone goes ew.... lice aren't dirty in any way. Lice actually prefer nice clean cared for hair, they'll avoid dirty hair unless they have to.

    I thought i'd be pretty imune (my hair is less than half an inch for gods sakes) but no...we had about 4 different lice combs in the house, and onyl one of them actually worked. If you're combing with one of those plastic one piece combs, i'd recommend binning it and trying to get one with long round metal teeth in a plastic handle, that found lice and nits in my sons hair when all the others didn't.

    If you don't want to use the insecticide you can use conditioner. Wash your hair like normal, towel dry it, then condition it, don't wash it out, comb your hair through then. My wife has to do this because she's pregnant so can't use the chemicals.

    if you're only finding eggs, conditioner is fine. you don't need insecticide unless you find live lice wandering around, that's the general rule of thumb according to the packaging normally.

    edit : if you're at a school/college, it might be a good idea to send a letter to the school, annonymous if you want, saying you had them. In england it's school's policy to send home a letter to pupils/parents/whatever saying that there has been lice in the school and everyone should check.

    here they actually want to try and set up a national day where every single person sorts out their hair, and then all the lice will be gone... but like that's ever gonna happen!

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    buy some lice shampoo and use it

    wash all your clothes, bedspread and towel in a washing machine, vacuum, sweep up, and vacuum all furniture with fabric

    chances are they'll be gone in about a day

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Raneados wrote:
    buy some lice shampoo and use it

    wash all your clothes, bedspread and towel in a washing machine, vacuum, sweep up, and vacuum all furniture with fabric

    chances are they'll be gone in about a day

    Nope.

    I've done two treaments and they still aren't dead. I followed the instructions to the letter. Some lice are resistant to the chemicals in these products now. I combed every day and did all the washing and vaccuming as well. A shaved head is the only definate "cure". Chemicals' effectiveness have rapidly declined due to them wiping out all but resistant strains of the parasites, now most of them aren't affected by the conditioners, which mostly use permethrin or the organic compound it is derived from. There's also Lindain, which is banned everywhere but the U.S. and Canada, as it's toxic and doesn't work anymore anyway.

    As for combs, fibretip is right, the metal ones are far better than the plastic ones, but because I'm combing my own hair it's hard for me to effectively remove the bugs as I'm blindly combing the majority of my head, particularly the back. I can't use a hand mirror because it takes two hands to comb properly.
    I'm getting my head shaved tomorrow. It's the easiest solution at this point as well as efficient. I'm not too concerned with being bald for a while, hair grows back, and my time is too valuable to spend on futile combing anymore.

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Wow. After shaving my hair to the skin, a good 4-5 eggs still managed to hang on, although it's because they couldn't fit into the foil of my razor. A quick trim with a straight-edge got rid of them though.

    On a side note, being bald is weird. But kinda neat. I'm sure the novelty will wear off pretty quick.

    Oh, by the way fibretip. Make sure to check your facial hair including eyebrows and even your eyelashes, and even if you only have a 5 o'clock. Apparently they will in rare cases try to lay eggs on eyelashes, though I haven't had this happen. Perhaps with my head shaved they'll try. I have however had them lay an egg 3 times on my face within 1 day of shaving. I would suggest you shave to the skin every day.

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