Weird: I just went into Trial of the Champion for the first time ever. At level 78. And there was a 77 and 79 in the group as well. And we still killed Black Knight, except 3 of us died on the attempt.
Blah: Nothing dropped I could use at 80, two plate drops, but I greed rolled to win one and sold it for profit.
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GrobianWhat's on sale?Pliers!Registered Userregular
edited October 2009
ToChampion normal isn't hard if you understand the mechanics of the fights. I also think it does a pretty good job of explaining those mechanics ingame. Other 80 instances aren't that clear when you do them the first time (HoS comes to mind)
On the other hand, I once did it with 3 guildies and a random tank that forgot to reequip his weapon after the first part and couldn't move out of the green stuff (and that meant that we melee dps also had to stand in the green stuff). So the other extreme is also true: if the healer is good enough, you can do it with retards.
Reversal from my previous post here: I think I'm going to throw out my WoW discs instead of contemplate reinstalling. I should find other things to do, outdoors things or musical things! WoW is great fun and all, but I often play it to an unhealthy extent.
Seriously. Why dont they just learn that my account isnt active and sending me this bullshit rite now isnt going to convince me they are anymore legit than sea-monkeys.
I just wonder how they know that email account is/was a WoW player in the first place.
It was too long! I took it off a while ago and forgot.
So the guild leader told me that he wanted to try out some of the new people tonight. I told him to take them on a fucking farm night then, because tonight is a progression night and I show up to every god damn progression night and now I miss out on the rewards of a successful progression night. And that pisses me the fuck off.
I feel your pain there... atleast your RL should of asked you first. Anytime we are giving a test run my RL will whisper someone and ask if they would mind stepping out ahead of time... usually the most geared since 99% of the time they will. I would of been nerd raging in your position...
Happy: I got subbed last night!!! god it felt good to log out at a decent time and have time to crawl into bed and watch a movie and get snuggles
Boo: Got a text, "OMG we need you! so and so's PC died! HAP" about an hour after I logged.
Hate: Faction Champs 25 heroic. We just can't seem to get them all.... our best attempt we killed the rogue and the warrior and Druid but by then majority of us are dead and the shaman healer is going wild. Then other attempts it seemed they start to focus fire on CC'ers. No one can survive a Warrior, Hunter, Ret Pally and Rogue.... no one....
HATE: So one of my new recruits was throwing together a NAxx10 run for 'lol badges', as a courtesy she sends out invites to everyone in the guild. Two of my other members start flipping out that they are being dragged into something like this so late at night. They felt that they should have been 'asked beforehand if they wanted to go.' One of them claims they formed this guild to avoid getting dragged into late night raids, and the other is complaining that the new recruit of ours is 'too intense'.
Note: I've known this person for awhile, they aren't intense at all, they like raiding not in any hardcore sense. When one of them said 'Can't do it, I have to leave soon.' and she replied with 'Just come for as long as you can.' This is not a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation.
Sweet jesus, I wanted to scream at the two of them to get their panties out of a knot and just fucking say 'I can't' next time. Its fucking Naxx10, its not like you'll miss out on upgrades if you don't go, and we can always set one up for next week.
Hope: They can calm the fuck down, and realize they were getting upset over nothing. I've lived with these two (roommates) for over a year, it still dumbfounds me that they would get this worked up over nothing.
When one of them said 'Can't do it, I have to leave soon.' and she replied with 'Just come for as long as you can.' This is not a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation.
This is the definition of a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation. The guy said no, and the inviter wouldn't take that as an answer.
The thing is that these guys we brought in from the dead guild are pretty good. They were clearing 10m H ToC after the guild fell apart (it was a 25 man guild).
As for my own performance, that's another rant for another day.
Though I've made me feelings pretty clear in the Warrior thread
When one of them said 'Can't do it, I have to leave soon.' and she replied with 'Just come for as long as you can.' This is not a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation.
This is the definition of a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation. The guy said no, and the inviter wouldn't take that as an answer.
Or maybe it was a 'its ok if you need to leave early, its just a trash emblem run' situation.
If he didn't want to go at all, the correct response when asked if you want to go is, 'No thanks, I don't want to go'. The other answer could rightly be interpreted as 'I have interest in going, but since I have to leave soon I don't want to waste other people's time because I have to leave'.
I mean, I don't think one comment when there is some possible vagueness is worth getting all worked up over.
When one of them said 'Can't do it, I have to leave soon.' and she replied with 'Just come for as long as you can.' This is not a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation.
This is the definition of a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation. The guy said no, and the inviter wouldn't take that as an answer.
I have to disagree here, because its not as though the invited is without recourse in this situation. You just follow back with 'I really can't.', I know this works because someone else in the guild said this very thing and it was dropped there.
The point of a statement like 'Just come for as long as you can.' is meant to indicate that you'd like to have them along and don't care if they have to fill the spot after only a little while.
Seriously, when did society become so passive that having to turn someone down is a major situation.
Except they didn't just say no. They qualified it. So some extra clarification was thrown in by the person asking.
This is not state-level diplomacy here, it's common dialog skills. Or typing skills I suppose.
I say "no" a lot, and then in response I get a "ur mean" or "ur rude" or any number of responses where the person is still trying to get me to do something with/for them. The "I can't, I don't think I have time" response is about the only one that gets people to back off. Not sure how I would react if not even that worked for me.
Except they didn't just say no. They qualified it. So some extra clarification was thrown in by the person asking.
This is not state-level diplomacy here, it's common dialog skills. Or typing skills I suppose.
I say "no" a lot, and then in response I get a "ur mean" or "ur rude" or any number of responses where the person is still trying to get me to do something with/for them. The "I can't, I don't think I have time" response is about the only one that gets people to back off. Not sure how I would react if not even that worked for me.
Except that your statement is affirmative, you do not have the time
Where as the statement was "I can't, I have to log off soon." which is indefinite.
Also that's a fair approach when dealing with random puggers, but this person is actually a guild member, you can probably just be straight with them. If it blows up (I assure you it would not), then the asker was in the wrong and will have to be dealt with.
I reported someone outright (I even opened a ticket and spoke to a GM to make sure that person got his/her name changed).
I remember a rather fun discussion I had with a Danish female guildie who had just created an alt. I had to have a quiet word with her and suggest that she might want to delete it immediately and make a fresh one now, to save a lot of hassle in the long run. She genuinely didn't have a clue why.
In complete innocence, she had made an alt named "Buggery".
Hate: Someone in my office just made popcorn and now everything smells buttery and delicious and I want some.
Office popcorn makers will have their own personal hell in which they will be tied down and starved with the smell of popcorn wafting over them for eternity.
It is this hope, and this hope alone that keeps me from killing the ones I work with.
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SW:Tor - Tao - Kryatt Dragon Server
My hate is my shoes smell like canned dog food that is spoiled because I had to do pets last night and one of the cans was opened and went all over my right shoe
I was stuck with that really bad smell for hours
It's a good think I am going to get new shoes for work this weekend
I also hate getting Breakfast for the Champions for the horde for the last 3 weeks it's been that except for 3 days
19 days for that quest!
Hate that I'm starting to get tired of doing the Argent Champion quests... I really need gold, but it's going to take far too long to get Exalted with anything or get the titles.
I reported "Dirtyclam" last night. I don't feel guilty at all about it either.
Edit: It was an 80 Warrior on Scilla.... Already gone from the Armory, victory!
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How do you actually go about reporting a name? I bring up the GM help/request thing, and I can never find a specific choice for that. Do you just submit a generic ticket that says "I saw so and so with the name DirtyClam.. this offends me greatly" ?
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edited October 2009
Happy: Guild was having issues with Thorim 25, were not progressing past the 2nd gauntlet boss being pulled. The first time we got it down and hit phase 3 we dropped Thorim as a guild first. Tried Freya after and had a pretty good attempt but ran out of time.
Hope: Toc25 goes well Sunday, we can do up to Valks pretty easily, but then too much orb damage wipes us.
Meh: My troll of sincerely arguing that Mr Chilly is a welfare penguin for scrubs vs those of us that worked for our one true demonic penguin overlord is not getting as much of a rise as I hoped. Maybe on the weekend
Hate: I bought the regular T9 Chestplate (50 badges, no trophy requirement) and then within an hour of said purchase, I go auction browsing and see someone put up the Sunforged Breastplate plans. Sure, it would take me a bit longer to make it because I didn't have the badges (nor a 10 heroic or 25 man guild regularly running ToC to roll on Crusader Orbs) but it's the principle. It still feels like I wasted badges.
Happy: So I bought the Sunforged Bracers instead because I was still wearing some Naxx25 piece or something.
Hate: The lack of good healer maces outside of Naxx. I had the one from Naxx10, our guild's stopped running 25 so I never got the Torch or Turning Tide. Ulduar 10 drops crap for healing MH unless you're a priest (daggers, staves) shaman (daggers, staves) or druid (staves, daggers?). WTF? I had to resort to upgrading with the one from heroic ToC 5-man, while everyone else I see is sporting an over 521 spellpower item.
Heh, I wish. I recently re-activated my account a couple of weeks ago, so I've been playing catch-up. I rejoined my old guild, but they've lost a lot of members lately, and I'm also no longer on the raiding A-list because my gear's fallen behind. So I'm relegated to the guild's Ulduar 10 runs which seem really boring considering 10-man ToC is faster and drops better gear. I've even shown myself capable of healing it when I joined a guild's run as a pick-up and got the achievement.
So on that note, hope: to get into the guild's 10 man ToC on Saturday.
Speaking of names, I saw a dwarf named Redpubes. Level 50 and still not banned so far. I didn't bother reporting because there's frankly more offensive names out there, and I want to see this guy go all the way to 80.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited October 2009
HAPPY: Got [Mine] in the I o C today.
Basically all that stands in my way now is 100 victories.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Amusing: Actually won a IoC without controlling docks. Both sides threw the majority of their forces at the docks in a grindfest. A couple of Horde hit hangar and workshop. Alliance finally won the battle at docks, but not before Horde had all of the demos pounding on the side gate for a while and the siege already out.
I tried it the other day and the alliance in my battlegroup failed horribly. I'm also to blame though, because I didn't know what the fuck was going on.
I should really read some info about that place, it looks fun.
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Blah: Nothing dropped I could use at 80, two plate drops, but I greed rolled to win one and sold it for profit.
On the other hand, I once did it with 3 guildies and a random tank that forgot to reequip his weapon after the first part and couldn't move out of the green stuff (and that meant that we melee dps also had to stand in the green stuff). So the other extreme is also true: if the healer is good enough, you can do it with retards.
Fingers crossed we get his account back and the guild bank fully restored.
Sorry Beasts!
PS4:MrZoompants
They're all really loud and they just echo and their microphones appear to be positioned directly inside their CPU fans.
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I just wonder how they know that email account is/was a WoW player in the first place.
I feel your pain there... atleast your RL should of asked you first. Anytime we are giving a test run my RL will whisper someone and ask if they would mind stepping out ahead of time... usually the most geared since 99% of the time they will. I would of been nerd raging in your position...
Happy: I got subbed last night!!!
Boo: Got a text, "OMG we need you! so and so's PC died! HAP" about an hour after I logged.
Hate: Faction Champs 25 heroic. We just can't seem to get them all.... our best attempt we killed the rogue and the warrior and Druid but by then majority of us are dead and the shaman healer is going wild. Then other attempts it seemed they start to focus fire on CC'ers. No one can survive a Warrior, Hunter, Ret Pally and Rogue.... no one....
(seriously, it looks a mess in there)
Note: I've known this person for awhile, they aren't intense at all, they like raiding not in any hardcore sense. When one of them said 'Can't do it, I have to leave soon.' and she replied with 'Just come for as long as you can.' This is not a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation.
Sweet jesus, I wanted to scream at the two of them to get their panties out of a knot and just fucking say 'I can't' next time. Its fucking Naxx10, its not like you'll miss out on upgrades if you don't go, and we can always set one up for next week.
Hope: They can calm the fuck down, and realize they were getting upset over nothing. I've lived with these two (roommates) for over a year, it still dumbfounds me that they would get this worked up over nothing.
This is the definition of a 'Won't take no for an answer' situation. The guy said no, and the inviter wouldn't take that as an answer.
Sounds like they're trying to passively replace you.
You've either pissed someone off or they don't think you're performing well.
That, or they have no common sense. Normal guilds don't bring anything but their best composition to progression attempts.
As for my own performance, that's another rant for another day.
Or maybe it was a 'its ok if you need to leave early, its just a trash emblem run' situation.
If he didn't want to go at all, the correct response when asked if you want to go is, 'No thanks, I don't want to go'. The other answer could rightly be interpreted as 'I have interest in going, but since I have to leave soon I don't want to waste other people's time because I have to leave'.
I mean, I don't think one comment when there is some possible vagueness is worth getting all worked up over.
I have to disagree here, because its not as though the invited is without recourse in this situation. You just follow back with 'I really can't.', I know this works because someone else in the guild said this very thing and it was dropped there.
The point of a statement like 'Just come for as long as you can.' is meant to indicate that you'd like to have them along and don't care if they have to fill the spot after only a little while.
Seriously, when did society become so passive that having to turn someone down is a major situation.
Absolutely, but you throw out a half-hearted "I can't, I have to go soon." when you mean "No"; surprisingly these statements are not identical.
This is not state-level diplomacy here, it's common dialog skills. Or typing skills I suppose.
I firmly believe that the rule 'Everyone must make an effort to communicate clearly.' is something that is dying out these days.
I say "no" a lot, and then in response I get a "ur mean" or "ur rude" or any number of responses where the person is still trying to get me to do something with/for them. The "I can't, I don't think I have time" response is about the only one that gets people to back off. Not sure how I would react if not even that worked for me.
Except that your statement is affirmative, you do not have the time
Where as the statement was "I can't, I have to log off soon." which is indefinite.
Also that's a fair approach when dealing with random puggers, but this person is actually a guild member, you can probably just be straight with them. If it blows up (I assure you it would not), then the asker was in the wrong and will have to be dealt with.
I remember a rather fun discussion I had with a Danish female guildie who had just created an alt. I had to have a quiet word with her and suggest that she might want to delete it immediately and make a fresh one now, to save a lot of hassle in the long run. She genuinely didn't have a clue why.
In complete innocence, she had made an alt named "Buggery".
Was it a rogue?
B E E R
Edit: It was an 80 Warrior on Scilla.... Already gone from the Armory, victory!
Hate: Someone in my office just made popcorn and now everything smells buttery and delicious and I want some.
Office popcorn makers will have their own personal hell in which they will be tied down and starved with the smell of popcorn wafting over them for eternity.
It is this hope, and this hope alone that keeps me from killing the ones I work with.
SW:Tor - Tao - Kryatt Dragon Server
I was stuck with that really bad smell for hours
It's a good think I am going to get new shoes for work this weekend
I also hate getting Breakfast for the Champions for the horde for the last 3 weeks it's been that except for 3 days
19 days for that quest!
How do you actually go about reporting a name? I bring up the GM help/request thing, and I can never find a specific choice for that. Do you just submit a generic ticket that says "I saw so and so with the name DirtyClam.. this offends me greatly" ?
Hope: Toc25 goes well Sunday, we can do up to Valks pretty easily, but then too much orb damage wipes us.
Meh: My troll of sincerely arguing that Mr Chilly is a welfare penguin for scrubs vs those of us that worked for our one true demonic penguin overlord is not getting as much of a rise as I hoped. Maybe on the weekend
Steam/PSN/XBL/Minecraft / LoL / - Benevicious | WoW - Duckwood - Rajhek
"Level 80 warrior spamming trade chat for a VoA pug at [time]. Name: Dirtyclam. I've lost my faith in humanity at this point."
Edit: Since I didn't mention it earlier, I ended up reporting him since he was being a total asshat in chat...
So at least the GM kid in his cubicle in Irvine gets 2 chuckles out of it hopefully.
Happy: So I bought the Sunforged Bracers instead because I was still wearing some Naxx25 piece or something.
Hate: The lack of good healer maces outside of Naxx. I had the one from Naxx10, our guild's stopped running 25 so I never got the Torch or Turning Tide. Ulduar 10 drops crap for healing MH unless you're a priest (daggers, staves) shaman (daggers, staves) or druid (staves, daggers?). WTF? I had to resort to upgrading with the one from heroic ToC 5-man, while everyone else I see is sporting an over 521 spellpower item.
Steam: TheArcadeBear
I'm using the Heroic version: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47962
and the chest drop: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=48709
Heh, I wish. I recently re-activated my account a couple of weeks ago, so I've been playing catch-up. I rejoined my old guild, but they've lost a lot of members lately, and I'm also no longer on the raiding A-list because my gear's fallen behind. So I'm relegated to the guild's Ulduar 10 runs which seem really boring considering 10-man ToC is faster and drops better gear. I've even shown myself capable of healing it when I joined a guild's run as a pick-up and got the achievement.
So on that note, hope: to get into the guild's 10 man ToC on Saturday.
Speaking of names, I saw a dwarf named Redpubes. Level 50 and still not banned so far. I didn't bother reporting because there's frankly more offensive names out there, and I want to see this guy go all the way to 80.
Steam: TheArcadeBear
Basically all that stands in my way now is 100 victories.
I should really read some info about that place, it looks fun.