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Hates, Hopes, Happies, Hard Modes, and Harpies

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hate: When the fuck did they change the Wintergrasp cannons to be unable to turn all the way around? Without that, they're are HUGE blindspots wherein people can get and wreck your shit without you being able to defend yourself unless you get out, and as a Resto druid, let me tell you, if I'm getting out of that seat it's because the match is over, the cannon/tower was destroyed, or I'm going to flee for my goddamned life. I'm sure as hell not going to pop out for the honour of becoming free honour to some frisky rogue or mage.

    Also, the faction change appears to have been the final nail; most of the Alliance on my realm appear to be Pants On Head Retarded when it comes to defending (though it doesn't help that we almost always have tenacity; a nice boost but not enough to account for the extra warm bodies taking objectives). It seems the only way we can win Wintergrasp is by attacking. It's a rare day indeed that we actually hold the zone for two rounds back to back, though the Horde seem to do it with some regularity.

    Oh well, until I need more shards for the final set of shoulders (probably leather, so they can be used by the druid, shaman, rogue and hunter, despite the rogue and druid already being 80) it's a non-issue, and that won't be for a while given that I've got the cloth wearers under way, and it'll take a good long while to finish up the plate wearers after them.

    Happy; WoW'athon '09 led to a 77 Mage, a 71.5 Warlock, and the hope that I might wrap up my third 80 in the next week or two, depending on how much time I can sneak away to dedicate to the endeavor.

    Forar on
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  • NeylaNeyla Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    riz wrote: »
    Hate: Someone in my guild just got hacked.

    Happy: It was noticed in time to keep everything but 10 Hearts of Darkness in the guild bank. Can't say the same for his banks, though. Pretty much all of his characters are now running around in tier gear and level 60 epics.

    Wonder if they fell for the whispers. I been finally getting them:

    Vltxot whispers: Hello!
    [GM notification] Your account has been suspended please visit (some random site that had no idication of Blizzard in it) for further details.

    Happy: 97 mounts. Wintersaber I still need to get and argent mounts (5 total) soooo close!

    Hope: Herald of the Titians tonight! Not that our group been failing at it, we one shot algalon. It's just there are a couple of people who failed to keep their old gear when the GL said for the last oh...2 months we will be doing this and reminded people pirior to ToC. The last 2 times we planned to try for this they weren't ready so finally last week we told them to get the right ilvl gear or sit out. Can't wait to be done with that so i can clear bag space!

    Neyla on
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  • frylockedfrylocked Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Happy: I just got a heroic Death's Verdict on my DK. When all my +str procs go, I have 11.5 k AP.

    Its... not right.

    frylocked on
  • Thomase1984Thomase1984 Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Happy: Rogue hit 80 finally, and have been running reg toc quite a bit, getting cheap boe epics and doing quests that reward worthwhile blues.

    Hate: Yep, "blues? you aren't anywhere near geared for heroics" finally happened.

    lol: ToC reg, invited an epicced out healer and the tank has 25k health... "he better have more health than that for this place"

    Curiosity: Playing mutilate at the moment and while my single target dps is pretty much what I expected for the gear i have (2500~), trash dps (which is apparently most important) is obviously getting blown away. I wonder if its worth respeccing combat just for trash fok spamming, because its pretty painful right now as assasination.

    Thomase1984 on
  • SegSeg Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    just snap in an official raid. "you fucking idiots learn to fucking play. you're being beaten by the fucking tanks. you're fucking shit".

    then either they will shape up, or you'll get kicked, or nothing will change.

    either way, you have nothing to lose.

    More reasonably and less douchebaggy options include but are not limited to: /gquit or not raiding on the days when the guild is trying for things that are above their ability.

    Not every player is going to be doing the hard shit.

    Seg on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Going on the easy days and not showing up for the hard ones is the most douchebag thing a raider can do.

    JustinSane07 on
  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Can I just get a breakdown of the week? Like free loot night is which day? Oh I'll be there!

    We have the exact opposite problem; Everyone only wants to do progression. We have difficulties trying to get people to come help farm out a few more of the normal mode trinkets.... They're really barely worse than the heroic versions people, and they stack!

    Ishtaar on
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  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    If only my guild could down heroic 25 Anub'arak. Doubling up on those spell power trinkets would be the most amazing thing. That would let me reach about 3.1k spellpower.

    Lorahalo on
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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Happy: after finally getting Algalon on Friday, we went into Totgc and got Twins after a few wipes due to horrendous server lag.

    Went in to try Anub and were like HAHA maybe in like a month

    Beasteh on
  • Fig-DFig-D Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Happy: Finally got Koralon10 and Onyxia10 down on my preist. The group was fairly good and we might do some Ulduar10 tonight as well.

    I didn't get anything loot wise from the kills, but I'm glad to have finally gotten two more kills under my belt (not that they're hard, but you know).

    Fig-D on
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  • DharmaBumDharmaBum Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Well I'm not gunna /gquit just yet. We haven't completely hit a brick wall. Every Sunday we are making progress. I'm sure we could do it even with some of the deadweight (its really only 2-3 people). But I think what happened is that Reg-ToC25 lulled people into complacency.

    DharmaBum on
  • Basren DragonsnackBasren Dragonsnack Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Happy: Finally worked up the courage to try and get a PUG for ToC 10. I explained to the group that invited me that I have never done the fights, but had watched the videos/read the strats multiple times, as I'm into that sort of thing. They decided to give me a shot and we cleared the instance no problem. Everyone was impressed with how I handled it considering my limited hands on experience.

    Happy x2: got the tank shield off Anub and enough badges to get my second t9 peice.

    Good weekend

    Basren Dragonsnack on
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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Going on the easy days and not showing up for the hard ones is the most douchebag thing a raider can do.

    While I agree with this, I'd say extreme examples of people stretching far beyond their reach shouldn't be a reason to utterly waste a night per week.

    If an encounter requires 75,000 dps sustained, and my group is putting out 72,000, well then we need to look at enchants/gems/rotations and maybe even swap up the class balance a little.

    If they're putting out 50,000, there's too much dead weight and likely going to be a waste of the next 3-4 hours.

    I'm all for groups reaching far and hopefully exceeding even their own expecations, but when your shadow priest has 2% hit and your rogues are wielding levelling rares, several warning flags pop up. There are times when, mechanically (based on encounter or classes) that no matter how good a player or group is, you cannot do something, at which point your time is being wasted trying to force that square peg into a round hole, as opposed to doing something like older/other content wherein you can gear people up and hopefully train them a bit to reach for the extra threat/heal/damage per second cap that's required to do the harder stuff.

    When I raided hardcore, I participated in the progression and the farming nights with enthusiasm, but I was also part of the Officer core, so I was able to give direct input as to what content we would be attempting for that evening or week. The choice to take a ragtag group into the depths of hell and potentially waste literally 100 man-hours of time is not an easy one to make, and beyond the group itself falling short, it sounds like a potential failing of the leadership not to recognize or do something about that.

    Basically there's blame to go around all over.

    Forar on
    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
  • AftyAfty Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Happy: Got to raid for a change and got my warlocks helm from ony10.
    Hate: Only need a Squashling.
    Hope: I get a Squashling >.<

    Afty on
  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Beasteh wrote: »
    Happy: after finally getting Algalon on Friday, we went into Totgc and got Twins after a few wipes due to horrendous server lag.

    Went in to try Anub and were like HAHA maybe in like a month

    To terrify you more, P1/2 are laughably easy compared to P3.

    Hate: .005% wipe on Heroic Anub last night, he had like 100k health left. If only I smote harder and healed less. (Not a joke, half the healers DPS P1/2 since we're really only there for P3, and yeah fight mechanics)

    Ishtaar on
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  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Ish are your anub add tanks all shield users with full block gear? I ask for my GM's sake :)

    Beasteh on
  • TheTishTheTish Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Happy: Won the Headless Horseman's mount last night.

    Hate: Still 2 masks away from the mask for all occasions achievement, and all i've gotten all this past weekend have been candies, toothpicks, and tricks.

    TheTish on
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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Beasteh wrote: »
    Ish are your anub add tanks all shield users with full block gear? I ask for my GM's sake :)

    Yes, yes they are.

    We also use 2 add tanks (1 Pally 1 Warr) vs a single tank strat: Single tanking *is* doable but feels horribly RNG... They have issues with threat on all 4 even with tricks and such, and if 1 add gets behind it's game over. 1 tank seems like something to go for if there's low DPS and/or kiting issues with 4 patches; It's so much more controlled with 2. We're still a good 45 seconds off the enrage timer with 3 tanks ad 7 healers, just because DPS can go all out right away.

    Oh God so much hate: Someone in the office made microwave popcorn AGAIN.

    Ishtaar on
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  • frylockedfrylocked Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Beasteh wrote: »
    Ish are your anub add tanks all shield users with full block gear? I ask for my GM's sake :)

    We tried doing it with a non-blocking tank.... the OT took more damage then the MT. One of our geared main tank healer SPAMMED holy lights on him to keep him up.

    Lets just say we had to change the strategy.

    frylocked on
  • HalfmexHalfmex I mock your value system You also appear foolish in the eyes of othersRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Oh God so much hate: Someone in the office made microwave popcorn AGAIN.
    Did they burn it? People at this place always manage to burn it so we get to smell burnt popcorn for days afterwards. Dolts.

    Halfmex on
  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    No, not burned. The office just smells of delicious butter and salt and I don't have any. =( Damnit I think it's actually people from the adjoining offices using our kitchen. No wonder I can't figure out the culprit.

    Ishtaar on
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  • SegSeg Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Going on the easy days and not showing up for the hard ones is the most douchebag thing a raider can do.

    If you go on a raid and fail each time because half your raid can't figure out how to move out of a black circle, and this happens 4 or 5 times in a row it might be time for that raid to look at doing something that isn't as complicated as moving out of a black circle.

    If the half of the raid that is staying in the black circle can not figure out that maybe raiding isn't for them, it is time to go look for a different group to raid with.

    Not everyone is going to succeed at the hard mode stuff.

    Seg on
  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    My problem is that I really like the core members of my guild, but we've got some dead weight that is causing us problems and I don't know how to deal with them. I have a feeling if we stray too far from our casual roots we'll lose some of the good people, and some of the dead weight are IRL friends with other officers.

    I pug with some of the larger guilds on the weekends, and I don't think I would really enjoy spending 3+ nights a week with some of those folks.

    Oh well, at least I can actually see all the content in 10 man normal modes.

    Bama on
  • SerpicoSerpico Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Hate: The new heirloom ring is tailormade to make sure I will never get it.

    Serpico on
  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    hate: tanking Archavon with a PuG offtank. The way I always do the fight is to start it off, then when I get grabbed and the OT taunts, I let him keep it until he gets grabbed. Its not like we need my ridiculously over-geared toon to always be tanking just for Archavon.

    The hate, however, is when that tank has Archavon leap to smash down and create his dust cloud that gives all melee the 50% miss, and then RUNS IN AFTER HIM, then proceeds to tank him in the cloud. Then, when I taunt the boss to get him out of the cloud, he gets all butthurt about me taunting off him.

    Well, how about you learn to fucking tank, then you can be butthurt about it.

    Dhalphir on
  • TheTishTheTish Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    hate: tanking Archavon with a PuG offtank. The way I always do the fight is to start it off, then when I get grabbed and the OT taunts, I let him keep it until he gets grabbed. Its not like we need my ridiculously over-geared toon to always be tanking just for Archavon.

    The hate, however, is when that tank has Archavon leap to smash down and create his dust cloud that gives all melee the 50% miss, and then RUNS IN AFTER HIM, then proceeds to tank him in the cloud. Then, when I taunt the boss to get him out of the cloud, he gets all butthurt about me taunting off him.

    Well, how about you learn to fucking tank, then you can be butthurt about it.

    Well, at least the ot picked him up. I've seen far worse in pugs.

    Hey... even when I do VoA with my guild, our tanks play a game of seeing what gnome caster they can get killed with Archavon before taunting. And before you ask... no... i don't die...







    usually :wink:

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Argh: I can't get Tears of the Vanquished to drop in ToC normal. 14 runs and not only haven't I won a roll on it yet, I haven't even seen it drop yet. Still using that itemlevel 174 trinket from that Icecrown quest.

    SabreMau on
  • EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    TheTish wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    hate: tanking Archavon with a PuG offtank. The way I always do the fight is to start it off, then when I get grabbed and the OT taunts, I let him keep it until he gets grabbed. Its not like we need my ridiculously over-geared toon to always be tanking just for Archavon.

    The hate, however, is when that tank has Archavon leap to smash down and create his dust cloud that gives all melee the 50% miss, and then RUNS IN AFTER HIM, then proceeds to tank him in the cloud. Then, when I taunt the boss to get him out of the cloud, he gets all butthurt about me taunting off him.

    Well, how about you learn to fucking tank, then you can be butthurt about it.

    Well, at least the ot picked him up. I've seen far worse in pugs.

    Hey... even when I do VoA with my guild, our tanks play a game of seeing what gnome caster they can get killed with Archavon before taunting. And before you ask... no... i don't die...

    usually :wink:

    I always make sure there's one other dps above me on that particular boss. :P

    End on
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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    Happy: I said this to my group "This is roughly my 200 try to get the horseman's mount"

    That attempt? It drops. I get it. Fuck yes.

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  • The Count Of Midget FistoThe Count Of Midget Fisto Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SabreMau wrote: »
    Argh: I can't get Tears of the Vanquished to drop in ToC normal. 14 runs and not only haven't I won a roll on it yet, I haven't even seen it drop yet. Still using that itemlevel 174 trinket from that Icecrown quest.

    27 runs of normal ToC and no Tears of the Vanquished. I've given up hope.

    The Count Of Midget Fisto on
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  • IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    GG finally happy: Heroic 25 man Anub down.

    Ishtaar on
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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Halfmex wrote: »
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Oh God so much hate: Someone in the office made microwave popcorn AGAIN.
    Did they burn it? People at this place always manage to burn it so we get to smell burnt popcorn for days afterwards. Dolts.

    There is a guy I work with who has broken 5 microwaves over the last year by placing spoons or other metal objects in them
    He is now forbidden from the break room
    I do find this funny because this is the sex offender everyone has to watch

    Brainleech on
  • DharmaBumDharmaBum Registered User
    edited October 2009
    Hate: That despite my gear, linking the achievement, as well as my unbuffed DPS I still got turned down for a Ony10 PuG

    Hate x2: Despite saying that "I am not rolling on armor, I just want the badges" I still get told that I am not allowed to come to a VoA10 PuG.

    Happy: Almost Wednesday, which mean ToC25!
    Hope: That I finally get my Hellscream Silcer

    DharmaBum on
  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Happy: Got into a ToC25 pug
    Meh: Dps was low but the healer squad busted it out in spades so even though the fights took twice as long as I expected them to, we still won eventually, except for Anub where people blindly ran into the spikes and we just called it since people had to leave.
    Bah: All I really need drops from Beasts so once we were past them all I could hope for was a trophy

    Opty on
  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Oh yeah

    Amused: Got asked by a friend to help out in a VoA 10 pug. Once invited, I heard that the raid needed more DPS overall, as they kept failing to kill the flame bitch. So my first attempt, and their Xth attempt later, we down it no problem. I apparently am l33t dps.

    Hate: And we wipe once on the 2nd guy because people thought it would be a good idea to attempt to burn the boss down when we had an Overcharge up.

    Cokebotle on
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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    i thank god every day for ToC gear because it makes Emalon easy to beat even if only 1-2 people (or 5-6 in 25man) switch to the enraged add.

    Dhalphir on
  • Basren DragonsnackBasren Dragonsnack Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hate: Ony 25 pug last night. I'm assigned as whelp tank, which is fine. Main tank DCs during initial whelp clear. Big add spawns and offtank picks it up, add is killed. Second big add spawns, offtank just standing there and MT is not back (The OT was assigned to first big add, MT second). So I go run up and pick up the 2nd add, saving the healer it was charging for. Then more whelps spawn and I ask the OT to take care of them since I'm doing his job. He doesn't, we wipe and somehow its all my fault for not picking up the whelps. Did I do something wrong here?

    Basren Dragonsnack on
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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Did I do something wrong here?

    Serious answer: Nope. They were just retarded.

    Less serious answer: Yup, you PuG'd a raid.

    All joking aside, obviously the guy who failed at his original job is the asshole here. You can't be expected to do both.

    Forar on
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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Hate: Ony 25 pug last night. I'm assigned as whelp tank, which is fine. Main tank DCs during initial whelp clear. Big add spawns and offtank picks it up, add is killed. Second big add spawns, offtank just standing there and MT is not back (The OT was assigned to first big add, MT second). So I go run up and pick up the 2nd add, saving the healer it was charging for. Then more whelps spawn and I ask the OT to take care of them since I'm doing his job. He doesn't, we wipe and somehow its all my fault for not picking up the whelps. Did I do something wrong here?

    Yeah, you grouped with a shitty other tank. Any tank worth a damn is ready to pick up any and everything he doesn't see get picked up by the right guy, and adjust on the fly.

    Joshmvii on
  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    Yeah, you grouped with a shitty other tank. Any tank worth a damn is ready to pick up any and everything he doesn't see get picked up by the right guy, and adjust on the fly.

    Thanks for reminding me; any tank in the group that is not actively tanking something or preparing to tank something is just sub-par dps.

    The moment it became "not your fault" was when the other tank sat around with their thumb up their ass, and I hope you said as much in raid chat.

    Forar on
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