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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Seeks wrote: »
    Christ, can we get off this OS bashing shit.

    Different does not equal inferior.

    Axen wrote: »
    -snip-
    In general, I've noticed this forum has a very skewed sense of how important digital distribution is.

    Are you thinking in the narrow spectrum of just games or in general?

    Cause digital distribution for stuff like music and movies is huge. I would argue games too, but getting hard numbers is a bit difficult, but anecdotal evidence abounds.

    Valve said, last year I think, that they were about to cross the threshold of how much of their money comes from Steam vs. retail. XBLA is incrediblely popular and profitable. I can only imagine that the PSN is doing quite well too. According to the Devs of Drakensang, digital sales were apparently so good (compared to the lackluster retail) in NA that it gave them a reason to develop an expansion and a sequel.

    Nowadays you can find (legally) just about any movie, song, game, television show, or book(sacrilegious!) online.

    Yeah, I would say digital distribution is important and will only become more prominent in the years to come.

    edit- Not to mention that the next PSP is going to be digital distrubtion only as I hear it. Plus WiiWare is pretty awesome/popular too.



    It'll get more popular (obviously), but physical distribution isn't going to go away, ever, for a number of reasons that should be pretty apparent. It's always going to be very popular.

    Blockbuster makes me sign up once, and then I can rent movies for like $5 per title, forever. No ISP, no waiting for download, just a ten minute trip to the video store.

    What makes you think that moving a multi-ton vehicle and actually going to pick up an object that itself was created hundreds or even thousands of miles away will ever be easier or more efficient than a download? How many people have magazine subscriptions compared to fifteen years ago?

    Even if I built a new PC now the only reason it would have an optical drive at all is because I have so many lying around. The fact that you can boot Windows from a thumb drive without issues now makes them pretty much obsolete. Most people already have the ability to download a movie in less time than it would take to go to the store and buy a DVD, and all that remains to change is the availability of broadband and the culture shift from "(format) Player" to "Media PC".

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  • baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Faucets.

    Specifically the turn-one-side for hot, the other for cold, fiddle until comfortable.

    The last time I was in Japan, I stayed in a cheap (Y6000/night) hotel in frickin' Kochi, which is about as boonies as you get. The shower had a dial labelled in degrees centigrade and a "make water come out now" button.

    To heck with bullet trains, flexible OLED screens, and cell phones that can crack DES while giving you a massage. I want a faucet I can tell "give me some 50 degree water, do it now."

    oh, on the whole imperial vs metric thing: my 3rd grade class in panhandle Nebraska - in 1982? - learned the metric system, and I can only assume that kids living in actual civilization got the same lessons. It's been 27 years, we should be in line with the rest of the world by now.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Who benefits from those extra verifications on the supermarket self checkout?

    The customer doesn't, they're annoying. The store doesn't, there are far easier ways to steal things. It does catch honest mistakes, but for every honest mistake in my favor, it catches 2 mistakes in the store's favor and 100 false alarms of the jesus-christ-it's-a-bag-of-potatoes-just-let-me-go-home variety.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Faucets.

    Specifically the turn-one-side for hot, the other for cold, fiddle until comfortable.

    The last time I was in Japan, I stayed in a cheap (Y6000/night) hotel in frickin' Kochi, which is about as boonies as you get. The shower had a dial labelled in degrees centigrade and a "make water come out now" button.

    To heck with bullet trains, flexible OLED screens, and cell phones that can crack DES while giving you a massage. I want a faucet I can tell "give me some 50 degree water, do it now."

    oh, on the whole imperial vs metric thing: my 3rd grade class in panhandle Nebraska - in 1982? - learned the metric system, and I can only assume that kids living in actual civilization got the same lessons. It's been 27 years, we should be in line with the rest of the world by now.

    I agree that fiddling with water mixture is a bit archaic but I wouldn't want 50 degree shower water in either Fahrenheit or Celsius.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    Most people already have the ability to download a movie in less time than it would take to go to the store and buy a DVD, and all that remains to change is the availability of broadband and the culture shift from "(format) Player" to "Media PC".

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Most people are still on fucking dial-up. Most people just finally made the switch over to DVD. Most people don't even have the hard drive space to fit more than a dozen movies, even if they knew how to download them in the first place.

    We are not the mainstream people. We are not representative of the rest of the population.

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  • SeeksSeeks Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What makes you think that moving a multi-ton vehicle and actually going to pick up an object that itself was created hundreds or even thousands of miles away will ever be easier or more efficient than a download?

    My... brain? I never said shit about efficient, but I know what's quicker and easier for me.

    And no, most people don't have the broadband to download a 25 gig movie in less time than it takes to get to the store and back. Most don't have the speed to download a 1 gig compressed movie that quickly. Maybe in ultra-saturated parts of the silicon valley, but that doesn't constitute most people, now does it?

    Listen, I understand that you hate optical media. I get it. Most people don't, and are content with their perfectly fine technology.

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  • LittleBootsLittleBoots Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Most people already have the ability to download a movie in less time than it would take to go to the store and buy a DVD, and all that remains to change is the availability of broadband and the culture shift from "(format) Player" to "Media PC".

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Most people are still on fucking dial-up. Most people just finally made the switch over to DVD. Most people don't even have the hard drive space to fit more than a dozen movies, even if they knew how to download them in the first place.

    We are not the mainstream people. We are not representative of the rest of the population.

    I think you may be exagerating a little here, (the last major hollywood movie release on VHS was back in 2006)I guess it's possible that most people haven't rented or bought a movie since 2006 but I doubt it.

    BUT I do agree with what you are saying about that we are not the mainstream. I think it will be a long time before the average household sees downloading movies or renting them for streaming as a viable option much less sees a need for blu-ray.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I grew up in a very rural area that happened to have broadband starting in 2001. For us, running to the store and picking up a movie or a game could be a 2-3 hour affair, and those stores weren't even that good, always running out of stuff. Downloading a movie or game in two hours is a MUCH simpler and cheaper affair than getting in the car and driving for hours to pick up physical media.

    Buying physical stuff online is fine, but that requires way more planning ahead.

    So maybe I'm not mainstream, but my demographic does exist.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    wunderbar wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    The Imperial system of measurement. Does that count as technology?

    This. The metric system makes so much sense it makes my teeth hurt that we don't use it.
    Well, one of the reasons I prefer imperial for immediate measuring is the fact that I find it easier to visualize shit in smaller, tighter increments such as feet.

    Measuring someone's height in centimeters? Are you nuts? That's like saying ye person is X inches high instead of a simple 5 or 6 feet plus however many inches.

    With that said... Tube displays need to go. Flat panels are getting cheaper by the day and for the most part, are generally superior and don't emit as much radiation as tubes do. Nor as much heat.
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Yeah, Nielsen can die in a fire. There has got to be a better way to do what they claim to do.

    As far as Imperial/Metric, Australia sounds about right, 60s-80s is 20 years, which I think is reasonable to complete a switchover and get most of the people used to it.
    They sent me a book a few years ago. I was gonna do it, but then all they gave me for my time was five measly fucking dollars.

    Fuck that.

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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    The Imperial system of measurement. Does that count as technology?

    This. The metric system makes so much sense it makes my teeth hurt that we don't use it.
    Well, one of the reasons I prefer imperial for immediate measuring is the fact that I find it easier to visualize shit in smaller, tighter increments such as feet.

    Measuring someone's height in centimeters? Are you nuts? That's like saying ye person is X inches high instead of a simple 5 or 6 feet plus however many inches.

    Well you're really only dividing a metre into 3 pieces. Feet are good for measuring people's height and... not much else.

    It's not that big of a deal. If someone asks how tall you are instead of saying "five foot ten" you'd say "one eighty two" or something.

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  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Can I hit the exploding rocks? San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    theSquid wrote: »
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    The Imperial system of measurement. Does that count as technology?

    This. The metric system makes so much sense it makes my teeth hurt that we don't use it.
    Well, one of the reasons I prefer imperial for immediate measuring is the fact that I find it easier to visualize shit in smaller, tighter increments such as feet.

    Measuring someone's height in centimeters? Are you nuts? That's like saying ye person is X inches high instead of a simple 5 or 6 feet plus however many inches.

    Well you're really only dividing a metre into 3 pieces. Feet are good for measuring people's height and... not much else.

    It's not that big of a deal. If someone asks how tall you are instead of saying "five foot ten" you'd say "one eighty two" or something.
    It really isn't, but there's a huge difference between measuring people based on decently sized chunks split into 12 parts compared to ... one large measuring stick split into 100 smaller units, and.. so on. Maybe if you're going for something especially serious or scientific.

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  • theSquidtheSquid Sydney, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    It's not that big of a deal. If someone asks how tall you are instead of saying "five foot ten" you'd say "one eighty two" or something.
    It really isn't, but there's a huge difference between measuring people based on decently sized chunks split into 12 parts compared to ... one large measuring stick split into 100 smaller units, and.. so on. Maybe if you're going for something especially serious or scientific.[/QUOTE]

    Well gee if we were going to be scientific we would prefer to use either metres or millimetres (that is 1.8m == 1800 mm) I suppose you could use decametres if you really wanted to, but jesus christ, give people some credit. They can count over 12.

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  • StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    theSquid wrote: »
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    The Imperial system of measurement. Does that count as technology?

    This. The metric system makes so much sense it makes my teeth hurt that we don't use it.
    Well, one of the reasons I prefer imperial for immediate measuring is the fact that I find it easier to visualize shit in smaller, tighter increments such as feet.

    Measuring someone's height in centimeters? Are you nuts? That's like saying ye person is X inches high instead of a simple 5 or 6 feet plus however many inches.

    Well you're really only dividing a metre into 3 pieces. Feet are good for measuring people's height and... not much else.

    It's not that big of a deal. If someone asks how tall you are instead of saying "five foot ten" you'd say "one eighty two" or something.
    It really isn't, but there's a huge difference between measuring people based on decently sized chunks split into 12 parts compared to ... one large measuring stick split into 100 smaller units, and.. so on. Maybe if you're going for something especially serious or scientific.

    That's silly, measuring people in meters and centimeters works perfectly fine, and you can actually differentiate between close heights, like 1.79m and 1.81m

    Metric not only works perfectly fine for any given measure (from the insides of a microchip to the circumference of earth), but it also scales easily. and the relations between different measures (volume, length, temperature, whatever) also happens to make sense. I.E. 100ºc is how much heat you need to boil one liter of water, which happens to be 1 cubic decimetre...

    Seriously, we all use nothing but the metric system here in Brazil, it's 100% practical and easy to use, and it actually MAKES SOME SENSE.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    xzzy wrote: »
    logic7 wrote: »

    Floppies - do you realize that you can probably grab a floppy you created back in the 80's and have it still work now? Magnetic media will always outlive optical. It's slow, but it has it's purpose. Granted, I have one, but I use Zip disks in parallel for archiving larger crucial stuff.
    I realize I can grab a floppy created anywhere from the mid nineties to early 2000's that sat on a shelf in a normal office and find that if it can even be read on the first computer I put it in, it will probably be corrupted and say it needs formatting by the time I put it in the next computer a 30 second walk away.

    That's if the first drive doesn't destroy the disk upon insertion/spinup due to the layers of dust, cobwebs, and spider corpses in the drive. :P

    Old floppies are actually more reliable than newer ones. Towards the end of the floppy's production cycle, build quality got EXTREMELY poor. I was still using my old windows 3.11 install disks up until a few years ago, because all the newer disks I got my hands on had a really bad habit of getting bad sectors as soon as you tried to write to them.

    I still have a pack of circa 1995 disks that seem to be holding up just fine. As a side project I was recovering a laptop drive with Win95 and those disks came in quite handy.

    I have a bunch of C64 5.25" floppies, ranging from the early eighties to the mid nineties. All of them work.

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Most people already have the ability to download a movie in less time than it would take to go to the store and buy a DVD, and all that remains to change is the availability of broadband and the culture shift from "(format) Player" to "Media PC".

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Most people are still on fucking dial-up. Most people just finally made the switch over to DVD. Most people don't even have the hard drive space to fit more than a dozen movies, even if they knew how to download them in the first place.

    We are not the mainstream people. We are not representative of the rest of the population.

    You are correct about everything but the DVD thing. Something like 90% of households have a DVD player, and penetration passed 50% 5 years ago.

    But yeah, the internet technology is not quite there yet to enable downloading of movies and all that.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but why are voicemail boxes still so shitty?
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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I grew up in a very rural area that happened to have broadband starting in 2001. For us, running to the store and picking up a movie or a game could be a 2-3 hour affair, and those stores weren't even that good, always running out of stuff. Downloading a movie or game in two hours is a MUCH simpler and cheaper affair than getting in the car and driving for hours to pick up physical media.

    Buying physical stuff online is fine, but that requires way more planning ahead.

    So maybe I'm not mainstream, but my demographic does exist.

    I lived just 6 miles out from my town in southern Indiana and they didn't have any broadband internet out there for a long time. They just got a DSL line out there a few years back. Before that we had to deal with satellite internet, which isn't much better than dial-up. Trust me, there are still a lot of people out there without broadband, or even without internet.

    I know you guys like to think that "oh man the world is so accepting of us right now" but really, we are not the mainstream here. There are still some people getting their first DVD players.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    I grew up in a very rural area that happened to have broadband starting in 2001. For us, running to the store and picking up a movie or a game could be a 2-3 hour affair, and those stores weren't even that good, always running out of stuff. Downloading a movie or game in two hours is a MUCH simpler and cheaper affair than getting in the car and driving for hours to pick up physical media.

    Buying physical stuff online is fine, but that requires way more planning ahead.

    So maybe I'm not mainstream, but my demographic does exist.

    I lived just 6 miles out from my town in southern Indiana and they didn't have any broadband internet out there for a long time. They just got a DSL line out there a few years back. Before that we had to deal with satellite internet, which isn't much better than dial-up. Trust me, there are still a lot of people out there without broadband, or even without internet.

    I know you guys like to think that "oh man the world is so accepting of us right now" but really, we are not the mainstream here. There are still some people getting their first DVD players.

    That doesn't mean those people are important in the grand scheme of things, though.

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  • JasocoJasoco Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Who makes those lanes btw, the ones we have around where I live (FL) are NCR and Fujitsu.. they are a bit shit. I think it's mainly on the software side though.. because those fuckers constantly tell people there is an unexpected item in the bagging area.. when there isn't. So either the scales are a bit shit or someone isn't updating the database like they should.

    I don't know who makes the ones at ACME or the ones at the Giant I will be working at when it opens, but I know who made the ones at SuperFresh. They were highly advanced Fujitsu registers with a belt and everything. You scan an item, place it on the belt and it moves to a containment area until you are ready to bag, or you have someone bagging for you. They were much nicer and easier than the ones where you have to bag them right away and if you run out of space you have to take the time to put the bags somewhere else to make room for more.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but why are voicemail boxes still so shitty?

    iphone fixed that

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    How did the iPhone fix something that's completely on your phone provider's side (excluding landline phones no one uses anymore)

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  • travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Artreus wrote: »
    I know you guys like to think that "oh man the world is so accepting of us right now" but really, we are not the mainstream here. There are still some people getting their first DVD players.

    95% of the country has access to broadband of some sort. If people either cant afford or chose not to make use of it, that is their choice. To the 5% living in bumfuck egypt, tough shit. You want to enjoy the secluded life, it comes with consequences, that being none, limited, or expensive broadband.

    And there are still people getting their first car. Who the fuck cares about them? DVD penetration is at/near 90%, anyone who wants a DVD player can very easily get one, and there are a shitload of dirt cheap DVDs out there.

    These people are in the extreme minority. It is one thing when the minority is 30-45%, it is entirely another when they comprise less than 10%. Anyone still using 1980's technology is doing so by choice, more power to them, but don't try and stand up and tell us that we aren't in the mainstream. The mainstream has a computer, broadband internet, and a cell phone.

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  • JokermanJokerman Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    I know you guys like to think that "oh man the world is so accepting of us right now" but really, we are not the mainstream here. There are still some people getting their first DVD players.

    95% of the country has access to broadband of some sort. If people either cant afford or chose not to make use of it, that is their choice. To the 5% living in bumfuck egypt, tough shit. You want to enjoy the secluded life, it comes with consequences, that being none, limited, or expensive broadband.

    And there are still people getting their first car. Who the fuck cares about them? DVD penetration is at/near 90%, anyone who wants a DVD player can very easily get one, and there are a shitload of dirt cheap DVDs out there.

    These people are in the extreme minority. It is one thing when the minority is 30-45%, it is entirely another when they comprise less than 10%. Anyone still using 1980's technology is doing so by choice, more power to them, but don't try and stand up and tell us that we aren't in the mainstream. The mainstream has a computer, broadband internet, and a cell phone.

    [citation needed]
    and don't say satalite internet. Might as well try to communicate with two cans tied to a string.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    Artreus wrote: »
    I know you guys like to think that "oh man the world is so accepting of us right now" but really, we are not the mainstream here. There are still some people getting their first DVD players.

    95% of the country has access to broadband of some sort. If people either cant afford or chose not to make use of it, that is their choice. To the 5% living in bumfuck egypt, tough shit. You want to enjoy the secluded life, it comes with consequences, that being none, limited, or expensive broadband.

    And there are still people getting their first car. Who the fuck cares about them? DVD penetration is at/near 90%, anyone who wants a DVD player can very easily get one, and there are a shitload of dirt cheap DVDs out there.

    These people are in the extreme minority. It is one thing when the minority is 30-45%, it is entirely another when they comprise less than 10%. Anyone still using 1980's technology is doing so by choice, more power to them, but don't try and stand up and tell us that we aren't in the mainstream. The mainstream has a computer, broadband internet, and a cell phone.

    Kind of a dick, aren't you?

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    elliotw2 wrote: »
    How did the iPhone fix something that's completely on your phone provider's side (excluding landline phones no one uses anymore)

    Visual voicemail is decidedly less shitty than the stupid call in systems most everybody uses.

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  • travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Jokerman wrote: »
    [citation needed]
    and don't say satalite internet. Might as well try to communicate with two cans tied to a string.

    Want me to "let me google that for you"?
    Kind of a dick, aren't you?

    Nope, just tired of people in the extreme minority crying foul. Get in line or stfu.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    Jokerman wrote: »
    [citation needed]
    and don't say satalite internet. Might as well try to communicate with two cans tied to a string.

    Want me to "let me google that for you"?
    Kind of a dick, aren't you?

    Nope, just tired of people in the extreme minority crying foul. Get in line or stfu.

    ...extreme minority?

    What the hell are you talking about?

    In my area, (southern Western New York), if you don't live by a major town, or near a street with fiber optics running along it, the only way to get broadband is through satellite internet, which has terrible lag, and is easily brought down.

    So yeah, seconding that [citation needed]

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Despite his tone I do empathise with the screw the luddites viewpoint. Here in the UK we still haven't switched off the analogue TV signal (which is massively clogging up the bandwidth that could be used for more channels and HD content which we still don't have) because of a slow "digital switch over" dragging out as far as 2011. There comes a time where enough is enough and you should cater to those who keep up to date with tech instead of dragging down the entire country because granny can't be bothered to get someone over to install a £20 digital box from the post office. I appreciate broadband is not quite the same and a very small minority cannot get it in their area in which case sadly, tough luck.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    To the 5% living in bumfuck egypt, tough shit. You want to enjoy the secluded life, it comes with consequences, that being none, limited, or expensive broadband.

    I guess I didn't pay enough attention during the "choose where you're going to be born" bit of childbirth.

    Edit: Or, you know, you're a farmer, fisherman, logger, etc. Clearly they don't deserve internet.
    Visual voicemail is decidedly less shitty than the stupid call in systems most everybody uses.

    It still sucks for people leaving you voicemail, though.

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  • darkenedwingdarkenedwing Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Anyone who thinks Satellite Internet should be considered Broadband shouldn't ever be allowed on the internet again.

    Ever.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It's broadband in the same way that 256k/512k/768k DSL is "broadband". That shit is slow.

    Edit: 2007 FCC report says 79% of the US population with landline telephone service have DSL access, and I'd guess that's mostly the aforementioned "broadband". Where's 95% come from, anyway?

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  • LittleBootsLittleBoots Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    travathian wrote: »
    Jokerman wrote: »
    [citation needed]
    and don't say satalite internet. Might as well try to communicate with two cans tied to a string.

    Want me to "let me google that for you"?

    AKA: I pulled that number out of my ass and can't be bothered to use google myself.


    The highest number I can find is around 60% [http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2009/10-Home-Broadband-Adoption-2009.aspx] and the lowest is around 27% [http://www.oecd.org/document/54/0,3343,en_2649_34225_38690102_1_1_1_1,00.html].

    Those numbers are for the US.

    That's including dsl (according to the OECD dsl connections make up the majority of broadband connections) and satellite connections.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What is he bitching about, anyway? Sounds like he has fast 'net access, why should he moan about those who can't and then go on a forum and whine about it? Some people are never happy, they have to find something to moan about.

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  • travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited September 2009

    Having access to and making use of are entirely different. 60% of people use broadband, 95% of people have access to it. If you had bothered to read the report they mention the various reasons why people who have access to it don't use it, including price, lack of a computer, and lack of interest in the internet, etc. For the 5% who don't have access, um, sorry, move?

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    travathian wrote: »

    Having access to and making use of are entirely different. 60% of people use broadband, 95% of people have access to it. If you had bothered to read the report they mention the various reasons why people who have access to it don't use it, including price, lack of a computer, and lack of interest in the internet, etc. For the 5% who don't have access, um, sorry, move?

    You're not serious, surely? Surely?

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Bars of soap, we have it in liquid form and that's much more sanitary, fuck bars of soap.

    This is from a few pages back, but I just had to drop in to voice my dissent.

    Liquid soap is worse for the environment in that it uses up more packaging. It's not quite as bad if you buy gigantic containers of it to refill your little dispensers, but it's still not as eco-friendly as bar soap. You're also more likely to waste liquid soap than bar.

    I personally use not only bar soap but also bar shampoo and conditioner.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    More things in the home need to be motion activated; especially in the kitchen and bathroom. The technology exists and isn't exactly brand new.

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Bars of soap, we have it in liquid form and that's much more sanitary, fuck bars of soap.

    This is from a few pages back, but I just had to drop in to voice my dissent.

    Liquid soap is worse for the environment in that it uses up more packaging. It's not quite as bad if you buy gigantic containers of it to refill your little dispensers, but it's still not as eco-friendly as bar soap. You're also more likely to waste liquid soap than bar.

    I personally use not only bar soap but also bar shampoo and conditioner.

    That's... weird. Personally, I don't think I've ever seen bar shampoo and conditioner.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    More things in the home need to be motion activated; especially in the kitchen and bathroom. The technology exists and isn't exactly brand new.

    Is the tech better than the motion activated bathroom stuff that public restrooms have? That stuff is terrible, and normal faucets are so much better and easier to use

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Bars of soap, we have it in liquid form and that's much more sanitary, fuck bars of soap.

    This is from a few pages back, but I just had to drop in to voice my dissent.

    Liquid soap is worse for the environment in that it uses up more packaging. It's not quite as bad if you buy gigantic containers of it to refill your little dispensers, but it's still not as eco-friendly as bar soap. You're also more likely to waste liquid soap than bar.

    I personally use not only bar soap but also bar shampoo and conditioner.

    That's... weird. Personally, I don't think I've ever seen bar shampoo and conditioner.

    It's pretty common if you buy hippie all-natural shampoos, but fairly hard to come by otherwise.

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