Mal'Ganis is a pushover, from what we've seen so far.
He has a reason to become a player in the instance imho. I think he will come up with some sort of trick to either steal the last power of Arthas or hell he might even help in his destruction to try to get back at the Lich King.
So quick question for those of you who play the Auction House successfully: does what Boubouille (or however you spell it) describe on MMO Champ's front page work (with auctioneer and that other mod that he lists) as he says it does?
Honestly, you'd need to check your server economy to know for sure. Some of prices he lists can be quite variable depending on the economy of your server's AH, which really puts your profit margins into question. Cobalt Ore, for example, can be much more expensive depending on when I check versus the price he's listing.
I just wish there was some way to track successful auctions (vs. canceled or expired ones), because prices can vary pretty wildly on my server and I'd like to be able to track the trends.
By humoring Garrosh he is fueling the fires of war that he had worked to stop. Garrosh is the worst kind of warhawk and he's going to lead the Horde to their doom.
And by turning a blind eye on all the murder, torture, and 'experimentation' that goes on, unchecked, in the undercity, that makes Thrall a bad leader. "You guys are undead nazis but we need your boats so I guess what you did was a bad thing and you shouldn't do it again."
Varian Wyrn was right!
The experimentation that foes on in Undercity is supposed to be largely unknown to the Horde. The quests are available to all sides for the sides for the sake of game balance. It'd be REALLY stupid to tell an Orc "Hey, we're trying to kill the living, but keep this under your hat."
Sylvanas now has a weird status and I think it'd have been better to do away with Putress and have had her die to the Horde in Wrathgate. Install a new Undercity leader and such.
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edited September 2009
Isn't Sylvanas the most popular faction leader during the valentine's event? Yeah, they're not gonna kill her off anytime soon.
By humoring Garrosh he is fueling the fires of war that he had worked to stop. Garrosh is the worst kind of warhawk and he's going to lead the Horde to their doom.
And by turning a blind eye on all the murder, torture, and 'experimentation' that goes on, unchecked, in the undercity, that makes Thrall a bad leader. "You guys are undead nazis but we need your boats so I guess what you did was a bad thing and you shouldn't do it again."
Varian Wyrn was right!
The experimentation that foes on in Undercity is supposed to be largely unknown to the Horde. The quests are available to all sides for the sides for the sake of game balance. It'd be REALLY stupid to tell an Orc "Hey, we're trying to kill the living, but keep this under your hat."
Sylvanas now has a weird status and I think it'd have been better to do away with Putress and have had her die to the Horde in Wrathgate. Install a new Undercity leader and such.
Those quests did not need to be available to the other horde factions though. I can think of one or two quests that are flagged so that Forsaken cannot take them (I'm thinking mainly of the one from TB that asks you to get a specific book from SM Library).
The main one that irks me as being available to all horde factions is the one where the apothecary has you collect these poisons, and then uses them to kill the sick tauren standing next to him.
By humoring Garrosh he is fueling the fires of war that he had worked to stop. Garrosh is the worst kind of warhawk and he's going to lead the Horde to their doom.
And by turning a blind eye on all the murder, torture, and 'experimentation' that goes on, unchecked, in the undercity, that makes Thrall a bad leader. "You guys are undead nazis but we need your boats so I guess what you did was a bad thing and you shouldn't do it again."
Varian Wyrn was right!
The experimentation that foes on in Undercity is supposed to be largely unknown to the Horde. The quests are available to all sides for the sides for the sake of game balance. It'd be REALLY stupid to tell an Orc "Hey, we're trying to kill the living, but keep this under your hat."
Sylvanas now has a weird status and I think it'd have been better to do away with Putress and have had her die to the Horde in Wrathgate. Install a new Undercity leader and such.
This. Between expansion of territory and the constant onslaught from many different factions Thrall is busy enough dealing with Org in Vanilla alone. While being a part of the Horde it would be easier for him to let his faction brothers deal with thier own problems and race.
I did that quest recently and we killed him before he transformed....
edit: You forgot Druids! We rule.
I already have a druid silly
Has rogue DPS evolved since BC? I had a 70 BE rogue who was pretty geared until I quit playing. I was Combat Fists / Daggers / Mutilate depending on my mood that day. Use deadly, keep SND up, steal my Enhancment Friends Stormstrike hits for Envenom
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited September 2009
I chalk Sylvanas up to the "Blizzard doesn't know what the fuck is going on with their own characters" phenom.
I mean seriously.
I doubt that the head writer could give me a straight answer on what her motivations are.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
By humoring Garrosh he is fueling the fires of war that he had worked to stop. Garrosh is the worst kind of warhawk and he's going to lead the Horde to their doom.
And by turning a blind eye on all the murder, torture, and 'experimentation' that goes on, unchecked, in the undercity, that makes Thrall a bad leader. "You guys are undead nazis but we need your boats so I guess what you did was a bad thing and you shouldn't do it again."
Varian Wyrn was right!
The experimentation that foes on in Undercity is supposed to be largely unknown to the Horde. The quests are available to all sides for the sides for the sake of game balance. It'd be REALLY stupid to tell an Orc "Hey, we're trying to kill the living, but keep this under your hat."
Sylvanas now has a weird status and I think it'd have been better to do away with Putress and have had her die to the Horde in Wrathgate. Install a new Undercity leader and such.
Those quests did not need to be available to the other horde factions though. I can think of one or two quests that are flagged so that Forsaken cannot take them (I'm thinking mainly of the one from TB that asks you to get a specific book from SM Library).
The main one that irks me as being available to all horde factions is the one where the apothecary has you collect these poisons, and then uses them to kill the sick tauren standing next to him.
I dunno, it kinda makes perfect, but horrible sense. The guy says something like "well, she's toast, but we need to conduct these studies to in order to better protect other members of the horde". The grim logic of conducting tests on people with incurable ailments.
As for another leader for the forsaken, there's really nobody with the gravitas or name recognition to take over from sylvanis. Maybe blightcaller, or shadow priest allister, but that's kinda stretching it.
By humoring Garrosh he is fueling the fires of war that he had worked to stop. Garrosh is the worst kind of warhawk and he's going to lead the Horde to their doom.
And by turning a blind eye on all the murder, torture, and 'experimentation' that goes on, unchecked, in the undercity, that makes Thrall a bad leader. "You guys are undead nazis but we need your boats so I guess what you did was a bad thing and you shouldn't do it again."
Varian Wyrn was right!
The experimentation that foes on in Undercity is supposed to be largely unknown to the Horde. The quests are available to all sides for the sides for the sake of game balance. It'd be REALLY stupid to tell an Orc "Hey, we're trying to kill the living, but keep this under your hat."
Sylvanas now has a weird status and I think it'd have been better to do away with Putress and have had her die to the Horde in Wrathgate. Install a new Undercity leader and such.
Those quests did not need to be available to the other horde factions though. I can think of one or two quests that are flagged so that Forsaken cannot take them (I'm thinking mainly of the one from TB that asks you to get a specific book from SM Library).
The main one that irks me as being available to all horde factions is the one where the apothecary has you collect these poisons, and then uses them to kill the sick tauren standing next to him.
I dunno, it kinda makes perfect, but horrible sense. The guy says something like "well, she's toast, but we need to conduct these studies to in order to better protect other members of the horde". The grim logic of conducting tests on people with incurable ailments.
As for another leader for the forsaken, there's really nobody with the gravitas or name recognition to take over from sylvanis. Maybe blightcaller, or shadow priest allister, but that's kinda stretching it.
From what I recall of the quest, it's pretty much an "oops, she died, this poison might be useful" at the end.
As far as Sylvanas goes, I think she's mainly a victim of "we kinda know where we want to take her, we're just not sure how we want to do it." In classic she's clearly anti-scourge and anti-life at the same time, and only tolerates the other members of the Horde because they are bodies to throw at the Alliance and the Scourge.
In TBC this seems to soften somewhat thanks to the Blood Elves. She sends troops to assist them and in return has a locket brought to her that reminds her of when she was still alive.
In WotLK, some of what happens can be best described as the RAS deciding that she's no longer following the same goals, so they decide to go with Putress and his whole "kill them all" plan which includes overthrowing her. Sylvanas up until that point probably thought she still had iron control over Varimathras and the RAS.
I'm hoping that the instances where she appears in 3.3 helps to connect the lines there beyond "I'm here to kill Arthas for what he did to me"
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He has a reason to become a player in the instance imho. I think he will come up with some sort of trick to either steal the last power of Arthas or hell he might even help in his destruction to try to get back at the Lich King.
Honestly, you'd need to check your server economy to know for sure. Some of prices he lists can be quite variable depending on the economy of your server's AH, which really puts your profit margins into question. Cobalt Ore, for example, can be much more expensive depending on when I check versus the price he's listing.
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Sylvanas now has a weird status and I think it'd have been better to do away with Putress and have had her die to the Horde in Wrathgate. Install a new Undercity leader and such.
Those quests did not need to be available to the other horde factions though. I can think of one or two quests that are flagged so that Forsaken cannot take them (I'm thinking mainly of the one from TB that asks you to get a specific book from SM Library).
The main one that irks me as being available to all horde factions is the one where the apothecary has you collect these poisons, and then uses them to kill the sick tauren standing next to him.
This. Between expansion of territory and the constant onslaught from many different factions Thrall is busy enough dealing with Org in Vanilla alone. While being a part of the Horde it would be easier for him to let his faction brothers deal with thier own problems and race.
I already have a druid silly
Has rogue DPS evolved since BC? I had a 70 BE rogue who was pretty geared until I quit playing. I was Combat Fists / Daggers / Mutilate depending on my mood that day. Use deadly, keep SND up, steal my Enhancment Friends Stormstrike hits for Envenom
I mean seriously.
I doubt that the head writer could give me a straight answer on what her motivations are.
I dunno, it kinda makes perfect, but horrible sense. The guy says something like "well, she's toast, but we need to conduct these studies to in order to better protect other members of the horde". The grim logic of conducting tests on people with incurable ailments.
As for another leader for the forsaken, there's really nobody with the gravitas or name recognition to take over from sylvanis. Maybe blightcaller, or shadow priest allister, but that's kinda stretching it.
Boobs'll do that to a faction leader.
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My favorite Sylvanas quest is the necklace quest from the BE area.
From what I recall of the quest, it's pretty much an "oops, she died, this poison might be useful" at the end.
As far as Sylvanas goes, I think she's mainly a victim of "we kinda know where we want to take her, we're just not sure how we want to do it." In classic she's clearly anti-scourge and anti-life at the same time, and only tolerates the other members of the Horde because they are bodies to throw at the Alliance and the Scourge.
In TBC this seems to soften somewhat thanks to the Blood Elves. She sends troops to assist them and in return has a locket brought to her that reminds her of when she was still alive.
In WotLK, some of what happens can be best described as the RAS deciding that she's no longer following the same goals, so they decide to go with Putress and his whole "kill them all" plan which includes overthrowing her. Sylvanas up until that point probably thought she still had iron control over Varimathras and the RAS.
I'm hoping that the instances where she appears in 3.3 helps to connect the lines there beyond "I'm here to kill Arthas for what he did to me"