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[Ultimate Comics] Divided We Fall

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    No more Lafuente huh

    Guess they caved to dudes who didn't like his style

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wasn't Sara Pichelli taking over for Lafuente? That didn't last long.

    Anyway, I'm not nuts about Bagley's style, but I'm sure this'll make some fans happy.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    CorporateLogo wrote: »
    No more Lafuente huh

    Guess they caved to dudes who didn't like his style

    And thank Gob for that! I hate his stupid art. Hatehatehate.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Aww, I liked his style. Specially in action scnes. Who's doing Ultimate Enemy/Mystery? That guy would be a great fit for UCSM.

    Though Bagley back is pretty awesome.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I wouldn't be surprised if Pichelli is moved to New Avengers now. She would be a nice Immonen replacement, and Bendis rewards his artists rather well with higher gigs at Marvel.

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  • GankGank Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Bendis has said on his twitter he has plans for both Lafuente and Pichelli. Thank god. And if Immonen has to go, then either of them would be great on New Avengers.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Soooo...Ultimate Doom, what did people think? I actually liked it a lot. I think the turn for Richards seems quite effective.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    AspectVoid wrote: »
    Mark Bagley is back on Ultimate Spider-Man in 2011! Christmas has apparently come early for me, cause I have been wishing this since he left. Bendis and Bagley will begin their reunion tour in issue #156. I'm having a real hard time keeping a grin off my face.

    ugh

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    wah wah wah

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    All the Ultimate books related to Death of Spider-Man go day and date digital release

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I've been out of the loop for a while - what exactly is Death of Spider-Man? Besides, you know... the death of Spider-Man.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    It's supposed to be a big game changer with the Ultimate Universe, and could stem from what happened in USM #150 where
    Peter signs up for super hero school from SHIELD, so that he can work for them. So we might see Spider-Man die but Peter becomes a SHIELD agent using his abilities in a different costume or manner

    The biggest news out of all this is that Mark Bagley is back on USM after a few years at DC.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Bendis is doing cool stuff with the Ultimate-verse right now

    Honestly what they should have done long ago is given Bendis full creative control over 1616

    Ultimate-Spidey and his friend of the week would have been really great.

    Agent Parker is a natural continuation of that. Agents Parker, Storm and Drake even more so

    I can actually imagine it happening as well

    Oh God that would be so fucking fantastic

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  • KING LITERATEKING LITERATE Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The biggest news out of all this is that Mark Bagley is back on USM after a few years at DC.

    FUUUUUUUUUUU

    ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!! I can't fucking stand David Lafuente's artstyle. He's right up there with Fred Perry and the Megatokyo dude in my book.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Solar wrote: »
    Bendis is doing cool stuff with the Ultimate-verse right now

    Honestly what they should have done long ago is given Bendis full creative control over 1616

    Ultimate-Spidey and his friend of the week would have been really great.

    Agent Parker is a natural continuation of that. Agents Parker, Storm and Drake even more so

    I can actually imagine it happening as well

    Oh God that would be so fucking fantastic

    dead serious, the Spidey/Torch/Iceman trio is my favorite group in comics

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Did Johnny really make out with Jessica Drew like that last issue teaser implied, or was that a terrible lie?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    KING LITERATE, LORD OF READING wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The biggest news out of all this is that Mark Bagley is back on USM after a few years at DC.

    FUUUUUUUUUUU

    ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!! I can't fucking stand David Lafuente's artstyle. He's right up there with Fred Perry and the Megatokyo dude in my book.

    David Lafuente is a much better artist than Mark Bagley and I don't even like anime styles like that

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  • KING LITERATEKING LITERATE Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    KING LITERATE, LORD OF READING wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The biggest news out of all this is that Mark Bagley is back on USM after a few years at DC.

    FUUUUUUUUUUU

    ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!! I can't fucking stand David Lafuente's artstyle. He's right up there with Fred Perry and the Megatokyo dude in my book.

    David Lafuente is a much better artist than Mark Bagley and I don't even like anime styles like that


    Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I think Bagley's work is basically inoffensive and safe, which is why so many people like it.

    Personally, I prefer something a little more cartoony, so I enjoy Lafuente.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    for some reason everyone in GV apparently loves Lafuente

    oh and there's munch

    hi munch

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    HI ANTIMATTER!

    The whole Lafuente debate reminds me of the people that couldn't get past the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon looking too cartoony.

    I think a lot of comic fans reject stuff cartoony styles of art, for whatever reason. Personally, I'm all for more diversity in the field, especially if it means all the Jim Lee clones go away forever. That said, not everything's going to be for everyone, so I don't fault people for their tastes.

    But fans should really learn to criticize art and artists without ignorantly trashing it. It's one thing if an artist is clearly just making mistakes or being sloppy, but I think it's clear Lafuente's not. That guy's not trying to draw like Steve Ditko, and just doing it wrong. He's got his own thing going on.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I like Lafuente, love Pichelli (she just gets bogged down with drawing bad stories), but Bagley is Spider-Man to me, and always will be. I know he's got his fans and haters, but I love his art. Oval head Spider-Man will always be paramount to circle head Spider-Man like Lafuente draws.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    KING LITERATE, LORD OF READING wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    KING LITERATE, LORD OF READING wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The biggest news out of all this is that Mark Bagley is back on USM after a few years at DC.

    FUUUUUUUUUUU

    ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!! I can't fucking stand David Lafuente's artstyle. He's right up there with Fred Perry and the Megatokyo dude in my book.

    David Lafuente is a much better artist than Mark Bagley and I don't even like anime styles like that


    Please tell me you're being sarcastic...

    No way. You can show me pencils for faces of characters Lafuente's drawn and I'll be able to say who those characters are

    You can show me pencils for characters Bagley's drawn and hey there might be three distinct faces maybe

    Lafuente's super cartoony and I love it. At first I wasn't big on him, as it looked too anime, but then it started looking almost Disney-esque and I was sold

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Bagely is really good at being on time and stuff, but I think a lot of his characters tend to suffer from looking far too much alike. Especially how he loves those weird pointed bangs. He also seems to have a lot of stock poses he falls back on, especially someone throwing their hands in the air when they are annoyed. Minor stuff, I mean completely solid, but something about a lot of it rubs me the wrong way.

    I do like Lafuente a bit more, but I think he might be a bit too cartoony to pull some of the more dramatic instances. And I dunno, he always just looked a little rushed to me. The annual he did prior to being the regular artist was a lot stronger in my opinion.

    I haven't actually read any the Pichelli stuff so I can't really comment on it.

    I honestly wish Immomen could have stuck with it longer. Guys got the ultimate balance on the whole cartoony realism type stuff.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, Immonen is probably my favorite and is definitely the most versatile artist out of all the Ultimate Spider-Man ones

    I mean, I really didn't mind Bagley's art when I first read Ultimate Spider-Man because it was the first time I saw his art, but after seeing other artists on it and seeing his art on other books, I just really don't like it.

    Something about his faces really bugs me (aside from them all being the same). I think it's the eyes. They look lifeless

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  • HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Personally, I'd rather Skottie Young be UC Spidey's regular artist.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Personally, I'd rather Skottie Young be UC Spidey's regular artist.

    Yeah Skottie Young rocks

    but this aint gonna happen

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    The same people bitching over Lafunte would literally shit themselves to death with Skottie Young on the book

    what was the last non-Oz non-cover Marvel work he did anyway? New X-Men?

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Furu wrote: »
    The same people bitching over Lafunte would literally shit themselves to death with Skottie Young on the book

    what was the last non-Oz non-cover Marvel work he did anyway? New X-Men?

    I hate Lafunte but love the shit out of Skottie Young. He'd be a great fit for the book.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    SatanIsMyMotor wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    The same people bitching over Lafunte would literally shit themselves to death with Skottie Young on the book

    what was the last non-Oz non-cover Marvel work he did anyway? New X-Men?

    I hate Lafunte but love the shit out of Skottie Young. He'd be a great fit for the book.

    Well I mean the type of people complaining about Lafunte being "too cartoony".

    There are other legitimate issues with his art! (I'm kind of eh on him myself.)

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  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I cannot abide a Lafuente hater

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    His foreheads weird me out.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I really liked USM 150 and I'm excited for the Bagley return

    Also, I'll second the idea of an Agent Parker/Storm/Drake superteam, but I think more than likely they'll go the path of an Agent Parker and he'll drift apart from Iceman and Torch, Fury will return to remove Danvers (is Fury still alive in the Ultimate U?) and Spider Man will go back to being Spider Man

    Let's just hope there's no Ultimate version of the Iron Spider...

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Munch wrote: »
    HI ANTIMATTER!

    The whole Lafuente debate reminds me of the people that couldn't get past the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon looking too cartoony.

    I think a lot of comic fans reject stuff cartoony styles of art, for whatever reason. Personally, I'm all for more diversity in the field, especially if it means all the Jim Lee clones go away forever. That said, not everything's going to be for everyone, so I don't fault people for their tastes.

    But fans should really learn to criticize art and artists without ignorantly trashing it. It's one thing if an artist is clearly just making mistakes or being sloppy, but I think it's clear Lafuente's not. That guy's not trying to draw like Steve Ditko, and just doing it wrong. He's got his own thing going on.

    I fucking love cartoony, Munch
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    He uses smooth and pointed lines variously, never is guilty of TOO MUCH DETAIL, and can convey motion brilliantly
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    I can honestly say that I prefer cartoony, light on detailed art to superdetailed, dark art
    But, I can honestly say that I don't like Lafuente's art style. It's not for me.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    You totally just wanted an excuse to post those admit it

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I fucking love cartoony, Munch

    But, I can honestly say that I don't like Lafuente's art style. It's not for me.
    Okay, but what do the Go-Bots have to do with this?

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Furu wrote: »
    You totally just wanted an excuse to post those admit it
    NOPE

    god damn it munch I was making a comparison :C
    I can see why people can like Lafuente, but I prefer Bagley in this case

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm just funnin' ya, Antimatter.

    Nah, like I said, not everything's for everyone, and if Lafuente just doesn't do it for you, nothing I can say will change your mind. But, I have a hard time finding flaws with it. He draws clothes that look like real clothes, does cool backgrounds, can actually draw teenagers that don't look like smaller adults, and he experiments with panel layouts.
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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm happy about Bagley coming back because his art is USM for me, but I really liked Lafuente's style. Specially his action scenes.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'll agree that Bagley does draw teenagers like smaller adults..

    It reminds me of the early issues of Invincible with Cory Walker.

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