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Looking for people to read my comic book!

Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Artist's Corner
Hello, members of the Penny Arcade forums!
I have been drawing for a few years now, but I only recently found a style that fit my stories.
This is the result:
http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/

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I post a little comic every Friday. By doing this, I hope that my art can improve and that I can get a lot better with Photoshop.
My big comic book is a comedic murder mystery starring the detective Hemlock Jones. It's too long to put in one post.
Let me know what you think, I am open to any and all suggestions.

http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
New comics every Friday!
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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I checked it out. Jokes arent my 'cup of tea'. Practice is obviously the key to good writing. Reading novels helps lots with that too.

    As for the art, im sure you can see whats wrong with it. Keep practicing, and avoid photoshop when starting out. Thats a problem many people (including myself) make.

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    What I've been doing is inking my stuff, scanning it, and making it darker in iPhoto.
    And the second Hemlock Jones, which I'm almost done with, has a more ambitious storyline.
    Practice makes perfect though. I need to work on the shapes of my characters' heads to make them more consistent.

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    http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
    New comics every Friday!
  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I don't really get what happens at the end of this comic, so you might want to work more on making sure that you are communicating better through your comics.

    Also try to mix up your camera angles because the same angle over and over makes for a boring read. Try some more dynamic perspectives when the panel calls for it.
    (for example when the dude is laughing, a view from a lower perspective would make him look more diabolical)
    (also panel 5 really needs a closeup for dramatic effect because look at all the wasted space in that panel)

    Backgrounds are important! Draw them, even if very minimally, it will give your characters a setting. Right now they appear to be in some sort of purgatory.

    You do seem to have a good grasp on expressions, so continue to develop that, and your characters will have great...character.

    You seem to have the right attitude so keep at it, and don't resort to using photoshop as a crutch. You will develop faster if you stick with doing things by hand.

    Also I'm usually a fan of handwritten text, but you either need to start using a font or make your writing more legible.

    EDIT: You should also be commended on making a comic with your own original characters, and also that your strip does not involve the adventures videogame playing dudes and their wacky shenanigans.

    cheers

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    At the end, the murderer goes to jail and Poirot decides to see what Hemlock Jones is up to.
    And yeah, I really need to get more background going. Any tips on that?
    Pretty much all of the problems you have with it are addressed in the sequels.

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    http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
    New comics every Friday!
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I would have liked the posted comic if it wasn't literally just a simpsons gag with only one new line of dialogue.

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That was the point.
    I connected Sweeney Todd to the Simpsons! That's why Mrs. Lovett is saying D'oh.
    Here's another one:
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    http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
    New comics every Friday!
  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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    Against my better judgment I clicked your link and I'm glad I did because this is just plain good.

    As far as backgrounds go, keep them light and try not to let them distract readers from the characters themselves.

    EDIT: Taking lines from things can be okay, but taking jokes from things is kinda frowned upon.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That was the point.
    I connected Sweeney Todd to the Simpsons! That's why Mrs. Lovett is saying D'oh.

    ehhh still if it is just a bunch of parodies it either needs amazing art or it will be forgotten easily

    For the life of me I could not tell anything in your first strip was from Sweeney Todd

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    So I should stay away from doing homages that can be considered rip-offs?
    Fortunately, that's the only one I came up with.
    Future comics will involve Harry Potter, Up, and Metal Gear.

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    http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
    New comics every Friday!
  • LogomachinistLogomachinist Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Jokes! Oh boy, I know about jokes.


    In a comic, you can get away with essentially any style, as long as it's clearly a style. These characters, though, just don't look intentional. Similarly, all brands of humor will find an audience, as long as the jokes clearly have thought in them. And again, these jokes look just as careless as the art. What you've made is not something that very many people at all are going to want to look at.

    But! What it is is a great exercise for developing your sense of humor. The process of coming up with a joke, remembering it, and writing it down is super important. Another good thing is to go through jokes you've made and try and figure out why the bad ones aren't funny. And you should totally do this. These things, done habitually, will help make you a funny person. And ladies love funny people. That said! This comic is not a great exercise for working on your drawing, and there are people wiser than I who can tell you why that is if they happen to wander by.

    Long story short, you should totally keep working on this comic because if you do one day you will make something that will make me laugh and I will enjoy that. But you shouldn't be trying to pimp it because it's not really special for what it is, and mostly you won't get positive attention for it.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    yeah

    it is much better to have a large body of original work with a few one-off homages scattered in there instead of vice-versa

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well, I have a few plot comics that I've been working on.
    The zombie one will require a lot of dramatic angles, so that'll be good practice.

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    http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
    New comics every Friday!
  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    And one more thing a bout the camera angles.
    I feel like the first two Hemlock Jones books would be more suited as a play. The third one is more like a movie, with angles and action and such.

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    http://comiccoterie.blogspot.com/
    New comics every Friday!
  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That's all well and good, but nobody who looks at that strip can read your brain, so instead it just comes off as lazy and static.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Select your line work layer then set the blending mode to multiply, that'll get rid of those white artifacts left around the line.

    It's bolded because photoshop should announce this shit to every new starter scanning in linework. I know, because it took me ages to figure out myself.

    Apart from that, your drawings aren't at the minimum level they need to be. The more you actively practice and study art, the better your comics will be.

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Alright, thanks for that tip.
    The first two Hemlock Jones were really just me trying to get a story told. I tried to make the drawings simple because I wasn't ready to do big things yet. I think the third one will put my abilities to their test.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yes of course. I probably wasn't very concise in my last post, but I think you should consider drawing outside of just comic work. Most top comic artists spend almost an equal amount of time drawing things from life with a pencil and sketchbook. Having those skills developed allows them to add so much more life into their comics.

    More so, I think if you don't do try to develop outside of what you are doing, you're going to stagnate, get bored and give up. Developing your drawing skills and making progress keeps you interested.

    Now you are probably thinking "but drawing these comics is good practice" and to an extent it is. However you're going to get stuck in rut only drawing eyes this way, only doing noses that way. If you take the time out to study art away from what you are doing right now, your art tool box is going to fill up a whole lot faster.

    Anyway, good luck with your comics.

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  • Hemlock_JonesHemlock_Jones Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm going to try to draw realistic people, and I'll post them here so you guys can critique them.

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    New comics every Friday!
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