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The girl I'm dating is doing a paper on films intended to shock and horrify, and I'm trying to remember a film I heard about a year or two ago...
Basically, I remember that this movie was premiered in a European film festival, I want to say in France. It included the violent torture and killing of a young girl. The film was given great reviews for how realistic and shocking it was, and then it came out a year or two later that the girl in the movie was actually tortured and killed by the maker of the movie, it wasn't special effects.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Basically, I remember that this movie was premiered in a European film festival, I want to say in France. It included the violent torture and killing of a young girl. The film was given great reviews for how realistic and shocking it was, and then it came out a year or two later that the girl in the movie was actually tortured and killed by the maker of the movie, it wasn't special effects.
Does this ring a bell with anyone?
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was it possibly a dream you had? Because that never happened.
Another movie that had a similar thing was the shitty b-movie, "They Call Her One Eye", where a girl is drugged and raped for months or something, and then the main bad guy stabs her in the eye. The crew got a cadaver from the morgue and stabbed its eye out for the big scene.
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Its Japanese.
And this girl sounds awesome. Last House on the Left was made to just really fuck with people, its probably the best American example of this genre combined with advertising. Saw and Hostel can't touch it still.
Actually, I'm pretty glad it's not real.
My first thought was Cannibal Holocaust. Though, like Wasted Pixels said, that turned out to be false.
There were and always will be REAL snuff films though, I like that everyone in this thread is acting like that doesn't exist. Yes it's fucking horrible, but yes, it's also a real thing.
What people are saying doesn't exist is a snuff film that was commercially released.
I really wish I didn't look that up.
Fuck that is disgusting. Fucker should be in jail.
They didn't use a real corpse as far as I read though.
I think the conventional wisdom at the moment is actually that there's never, ever been a snuff film. And this is despite numerous investigations.
Kinda surprising really. http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.asp
No I think they do exist, and to think that there hasn't been one snuff film out there doesn't make sense.
Just because police "haven't found evidence of one" doesn't mean they don't exist on the black market.
to OP: Yeah the film you're talking about doesn't exist.
I feel the same way about Unicorns. Live the dream man.
Have you not been on the internet? Are the dark recesses not evidence enough of what people will do and film? To state that there hasn't been one snuff film is ignorant.
A snuff film that premiered at an actual film festival, given great reviews for its realism and shock value, and then discovered to be real -- these are pretty specific details for a supposed snuff film, and incredibly farfetched. If this actually happened, it would not be even slightly difficult to find information about it on the Internet.
I don't know if you know how stuff works, but the fact that it could exist does not then make it so it does exist.
I'm not entirely too sure what to think anymore, but the one certain thing, is that no commercial movie has ever been a snuff film.
As to know if one could exist... this isn't really the right forum to discuss it.. d&d maybe.
This link is really interesting!
How on earth was this legal
Is that not mutilation of a corpse
If it makes a difference, it's Swedish, and it was banned there too.
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Damn, now I have to look it up. Look what you did!
I'm not going to post any links, but they recorded some of their murders. Would it not be snuff cause they filmed them for personal use only?
Edit: Oh my god, I completely forgot the crowning achievement for American filth cinema; Pink Flamingos.
Not only does a drag queen mother give her son a blowjob, but said son has sex with a woman and kills a chicken in the process and a woman is impregnanted against her will with a turkey basted filled with semen. Oh, and the drag queen lead eats real dog shit in a continual shot.
It's not a horror film, but the entire movie was "an exercise in filth".
It doesn't meet the strict definition of a snuff film (not filmed for commercial use), but I think it fits the broad definition.
And it counters Mikkelson's claim that even psychopaths are smart enough not to film themselves murdering people.
She doesn't make that claim. She says that you'd have to be crazy to do so, and that anyone out to make a buck wouldn't be that crazy.
there are places like that
Even in lawless countries, it's probably not a great idea to attempt to sell videos of the murder you committed. To say nothing of the resulting ostracism, it's not as if there's a thriving market for this kind of thing.
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Also, even in 'lawless' countries people can't just do whatever they want without fear of punishment. Somebody caught making a snuff film even in some third-world hellhole is probably going to get dragged out of their house in the middle of the night by vigilantes and killed in a very painful way.
myth is often rooted in truth. The key word here is any "recorded" case of it. Also the snuff is being debunked for another key word of it solely being for "commercial" use. Hell I just read a story in the news this past month of a big drug bust in either Arizona or Mexico where they found a pic on the guys cell phone of 4 severed heads. He claimed it was a joke sent by friends.....sure buddy. With enough dumb people posting crime vids up on MySpace and Facebook it is only a matter of time till we get a recorded case of murder on film.
also I love how people like to use Snopes as an argument ender. It is on teh internets... therefore it is true and correct.
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Is that at all what I'm claiming? And if you want to go that route, is a lack of evidence indicative of something not existing? It goes both ways.
Look, all I'm saying is that the chances are very high of people killing people, filming it, and selling it on the black market. People film themselves molesting children and that is sold on the black market. Considering that, I don't see how people can doubt that weird freaks would take it just a step further and make and sell videos of people being murdered.
Oh, and that fact that "there hasn't been one recorded case of an actual snuff film"? Yeah, they're not supposed to be discovered. We see people being busted for child porn and have evidence for that because its a much more widespread perversion. Combine something existing in significantly smaller quantities for a significantly smaller audience with a very secret system of buying/selling and its not surprising that cops don't have any evidence.
Again, your argument and the argument for the existance of unicorns are remarkably similar.
But, I've been down this road before and it always ends with me getting infracted, so the last thing I'll say is what has already been said. There has never been a documented incident that fits the definition of a snuff film. The notion has so pervaded society that people assume there are cases when there are none.
So, here's my question. Earlier in the thread, we had a good example of a murder which was filmed. That film ended up as a viral video on the Internet, which you can watch for free.
What's the incentive to sell a snuff film when you're risking heavy jail-time and not much financial return, given that, inevitably, your product is going to end up on the Internet for free consumption?
the incentive is $$$. You only sell it to cliche creepy old rich people like a Mr. Burns who will pay top dollar for such a thing and keep quiet due to his station and reputation. :P
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Really they're not.
If you can't critique my points without being sarcastic and repeating the same things, then yeah, its obvious that this can't go on.
I'll say it one final time: All I'm saying is that there is a very high chance that there are snuff films, or have been snuff films, distributed on the black market. What YOU are saying is that just because law enforcement can't find any means that there aren't any, for sure, no questions asked, which just doesn't make sense. If a candy shop has M&Ms, its probably going to have Skittles. Just because you see only the M&Ms at the beginning of the isle doesn't mean that there aren't any Skittles...it just means you haven't looked deep enough.
Yes, just like people haven't looked closely enough for unicorns. They're out there. People just haven't found them yet.