I know a lot of people around the forums spent a lot of time volunteering on the Obama campaign. I know I spent faaarrr too much time. Some friends and I got a ballot initiative approved for colorado that helps un-fuck some of our budgetary woes. Now all we need are a TON of signatures by the beginning of August.
So I was wondering if any of you have done this or have any ideas on how to get lots of signatures. I know we all ignore the guy on the street that just yells at you. I was hoping to come up with some more creative ideas.
I'm already trying to tap into my obama volunteer network in the area.
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The guys on the street corner are there because that is, unfortunately, one of the more effective ways to get signatures. That, and going door to door.
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Is there an advocacy group that this fits well with? You need really need feet on the ground.
Which groups depends on what you are going after in Colorado, since there are so many. TABOR, Amendent 23, Arveschoug-Bird, the school property tax freeze?
You need to clear ~76000 valid signatures. Most ballots pull in 110-120k since you get a failure rate of up to 30%, and remember there are logistical challenges in collecting and keeping track of that many petitions. Most of the time people focus on around the number of outings and/or the number of signatures per volunteer. Build around that. 50 signatures per outing means 2400 outings, netting 120000 signatures. Some outings are fast (meetings that occur where you would predict a favorable response), versus outside a Rockies game.
Remember that if Doug Bruce can get any stupid petition on the ballot, you can as well.
Is there an advocacy group that this fits well with? You need really need feet on the ground.
Which groups depends on what you are going after in Colorado, since there are so many. TABOR, Amendent 23, Arveschoug-Bird, the school property tax freeze?
You need to clear ~76000 valid signatures. Most ballots pull in 110-120k since you get a failure rate of up to 30%, and remember there are logistical challenges in collecting and keeping track of that many petitions. Most of the time people focus on around the number of outings and/or the number of signatures per volunteer. Build around that. 50 signatures per outing means 2400 outings, netting 120000 signatures. Some outings are fast (meetings that occur where you would predict a favorable response), versus outside a Rockies game.
Remember that if Doug Bruce can get any stupid petition on the ballot, you can as well.
This is basically going to override Arveschoug-Bird (which is being replaced by SB-228 right now but the compromise on this bill is not what we really want), and possibly parts of TABOR depending on legal interpretation. It is not affecting Amendment 23 because this is not affecting former constitutional obligations and it doesn't affect the property tax freeze because it only pertains to general funds. My friends running this are already covering the dem blogs and the like. They don't have anybody running the ground game in Boulder but that might end up being me since I have some vague connections to the Boulder Dems and some Obama vols in the area.
As for college campuses I don't they'll be of much help in the middle of the summer
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Is there an advocacy group that this fits well with? You need really need feet on the ground.
Which groups depends on what you are going after in Colorado, since there are so many. TABOR, Amendent 23, Arveschoug-Bird, the school property tax freeze?
You need to clear ~76000 valid signatures. Most ballots pull in 110-120k since you get a failure rate of up to 30%, and remember there are logistical challenges in collecting and keeping track of that many petitions. Most of the time people focus on around the number of outings and/or the number of signatures per volunteer. Build around that. 50 signatures per outing means 2400 outings, netting 120000 signatures. Some outings are fast (meetings that occur where you would predict a favorable response), versus outside a Rockies game.
Remember that if Doug Bruce can get any stupid petition on the ballot, you can as well.
This is basically going to override Arveschoug-Bird (which is being replaced by SB-228 right now but the compromise on this bill is not what we really want), and possibly parts of TABOR depending on legal interpretation. It is not affecting Amendment 23 because this is not affecting former constitutional obligations and it doesn't affect the property tax freeze because it only pertains to general funds. My friends running this are already covering the dem blogs and the like. They don't have anybody running the ground game in Boulder but that might end up being me since I have some vague connections to the Boulder Dems and some Obama vols in the area.
As for college campuses I don't they'll be of much help in the middle of the summer
Well then you'd better get your ass to them, like yesterday.
Well then you'd better get your ass to them, like yesterday.
Well a conservative think tank might challenge the approval from yesterday which means we will be tied up in hearings for the next 3 weeks. We can't do anything until the hearings are over if this happens. If they don't challenge us then we can start collecting signatures this next weekend.
Ok so I'm looking into advocacy groups like Progress Now, Progressive Future, New Era, Camp Wellstone,....hrm.
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Well then you'd better get your ass to them, like yesterday.
Well a conservative think tank might challenge the approval from yesterday which means we will be tied up in hearings for the next 3 weeks. We can't do anything until the hearings are over if this happens. If they don't challenge us then we can start collecting signatures this next weekend.
Ok so I'm looking into advocacy groups like Progress Now, Progressive Future, New Era, Camp Wellstone,....hrm.
There is still a fair number of people at the big colleges (Boulder, CSU) for summer, but slim pickings for the smaller colleges. From what I've heard, they are also prone to higher error rates. You do have county fairs and the like, but in comparison that probably takes a longer time per signature.
Also: The amendment is admirable - even understanding the web of limitations set up by the various state amendments and laws takes time. You are going to want a simple concise explanation of the amendment for when people ask what they are signing.
There is still a fair number of people at the big colleges (Boulder, CSU) for summer, but slim pickings for the smaller colleges. From what I've heard, they are also prone to higher error rates. You do have county fairs and the like, but in comparison that probably takes a longer time per signature.
Also: The amendment is admirable - even understanding the web of limitations set up by the various state amendments and laws takes time. You are going to want a simple concise explanation of the amendment for when people ask what they are signing.
We are definitely working hard on messaging and trying to make some good short hooks.
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Does any business or professional group stand to especially benefit? Talk to the people that run it and have them gather signatures internally.
Basically you need to sit down and make a list of everyone who might benefit or be interested and enlist their aid.
Yes I did.
But wouldn't it be campi?
But that isn't what I typed. I typed "campus's"
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Which groups depends on what you are going after in Colorado, since there are so many. TABOR, Amendent 23, Arveschoug-Bird, the school property tax freeze?
You need to clear ~76000 valid signatures. Most ballots pull in 110-120k since you get a failure rate of up to 30%, and remember there are logistical challenges in collecting and keeping track of that many petitions. Most of the time people focus on around the number of outings and/or the number of signatures per volunteer. Build around that. 50 signatures per outing means 2400 outings, netting 120000 signatures. Some outings are fast (meetings that occur where you would predict a favorable response), versus outside a Rockies game.
Remember that if Doug Bruce can get any stupid petition on the ballot, you can as well.
This is basically going to override Arveschoug-Bird (which is being replaced by SB-228 right now but the compromise on this bill is not what we really want), and possibly parts of TABOR depending on legal interpretation. It is not affecting Amendment 23 because this is not affecting former constitutional obligations and it doesn't affect the property tax freeze because it only pertains to general funds. My friends running this are already covering the dem blogs and the like. They don't have anybody running the ground game in Boulder but that might end up being me since I have some vague connections to the Boulder Dems and some Obama vols in the area.
As for college campuses I don't they'll be of much help in the middle of the summer
Well then you'd better get your ass to them, like yesterday.
And that's incorrect. It should be "campuses", since nobody says "campi" and in any case colleges aren't much like the Campus Martius.
Something I'm saying isn't getting through to you.
Well a conservative think tank might challenge the approval from yesterday which means we will be tied up in hearings for the next 3 weeks. We can't do anything until the hearings are over if this happens. If they don't challenge us then we can start collecting signatures this next weekend.
Ok so I'm looking into advocacy groups like Progress Now, Progressive Future, New Era, Camp Wellstone,....hrm.
There is still a fair number of people at the big colleges (Boulder, CSU) for summer, but slim pickings for the smaller colleges. From what I've heard, they are also prone to higher error rates. You do have county fairs and the like, but in comparison that probably takes a longer time per signature.
Also: The amendment is admirable - even understanding the web of limitations set up by the various state amendments and laws takes time. You are going to want a simple concise explanation of the amendment for when people ask what they are signing.
We are definitely working hard on messaging and trying to make some good short hooks.