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Hey guys and girls. Before I go any further with this sort of visual joke is it to lame? I plan on making this a 'art.. use it wisely' sort of thing. I dont know what the title will be yet but i think its kind of turning out allot lamer than i first thought
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If you used fairly desaturated, pulled-back values for the entire scene, and then kept the marker and the T-Rex the same vibrant color. So it's like, linking the two together and it makes your message more clear methinks.
just stick with one thread, and bump it up if you must, but i'm pretty sure your last one is still on this page, near the bottom.
it keeps other artist's threads from being bumped off the page, so much, y'know? kinda unwritten forum etiquette.
and yeah dawg, thar be a raptor, not a rex.
use references.
Specifically, 'velociraptors' from the movie were anything but - actual velociraptors were about the size of a small turkey. The largest raptor, the utahraptor, was actually probably slightly larger than the ones in the movie. The other significant change is that raptors are known to have had feathers.
Uh, carry on.
Robotsinth- Thats a good idea. I likes it like emphasize the not real part of it. But I think I have a new idea for it anyway
also.. guys.. who cares what sort of dinosaur it is lol.. I didn't mean for it to look like a T-rex or a raptor really. just some dinosaur looking thing. no-one really knows exactly what they look like and things like Jurassic park were only created on an educated guess. Why just copy what they have created. I understand most people have seen and loved Jurassic park so they will be like ohh noo.. thats not what it looked like in Jurassic Park but for all we know they could of had purple skin or something. We just have the bone structure and an educated guess on how muscles attach to bone in animals alive today.
Anyway.. I have a new idea Ill draw it and post it when i get home
And all I'm getting from the image is that this girl renamed the park because it has a dinosaur in it. Like she walked by, saw this dinosaur sticking up, read the sign, then changed it to something more appropriate.
Clad in black, don't look back, and I love you
You're dirty and sweet, oh yeah
Well, you're slim and you're weak
You got the teeth of the hydra upon you
You're dirty, sweet and you're my girl
A dude wiping his ass with the Mona Lisa
mm Ill think about it during the day. I just had a break at work and went to the book store and bought that 'drawing on the right side of your brain book' so i am working through that right now
The first artist that springs to mind in regards to the message you are trying to get across is John Heartfield. He subverted a lot of Nazi imagery during the 1930s, 1940s in an effort to undermine the effect of propaganda on the public.
This is exactly two ideologies of art clashing heads together, much in the same manner you are trying to get across in your message. I just don't think you've really concocted an "intelligent argument" yet.
You really should just stop using photoshop. Buy like 3 sketchbooks (thats what the normal amount people use every few months right?) and startttt drawinggg with a pencilll, It's like, learning to draw with photoshop is about the same as trying to learn with oil painting, its really slow in practicing fundamentals because of its molding qualities, you can learn over time but its so ridiculously slow in comparison to sketching a drawing out that you can't change which really shows you your flaws.
This is the exact reason why my thread has very little photoshop work until recently and even then its only like 10-15 minute sketches of figures, and speaking of threads, what beavotron said, stop making new threads please. It's just, ugh, take a sketchbook and just start drawing and then critically look over your sketches and think "what is actually wrong with this now that I can't change it"
I find it allot easier to sketch on computer and allot of my sketches I dont finish up or render. I will do some more pencil stuff. Can you please point me in the right direction study wise?
In fact I think that boob should probably not even be there.
Edit: Guess she left and made an appointment with her Dr. It reminded me I need one with mine.
Leg: Don't take your stuff down...only a few of us even saw it. I don't think it would've been that bad had the breast not been so awkward.
Gosh it was a horrible drawing
I stare at screens way to long at work and at home. Im gona listen to loom and try to avoid as much computer screen as i can for a while.
Wait what?
Not that his work doesn't have problems, but painting sculpturally is a completely valid way to do art "properly".
The people you see who are really good, probably had a hundred or thousand times as many crappy drawings than you've made. But that's how many it's taken to get somewhere good. Seriously, just as a really easy(lazy) example since we're on the PA site...look at the archives, I'm sure you have.
1 year
2 years
5 years
I won't go on because I'm lazy. Honestly though...I think as an artist Mike progressed fairly slow, but I will say the archives seem very consistent, there don't seem to be any large gaps of no comics.
Anyway...you can't get stuck being all upset and "I can't believe I posted that, it was so awful!" Just keep making and learning from your bad drawings so you can eventually make good drawings. If it's something you really want you'll make it happen, and if not you can always be in that limbo of 'I wanna be an artist but I don't know how'.
Generally its something to create a finished peice, you don't really learn as much when you do this, I never said it was really a invalid form of art just the fact that if you are learning the basics still this isn't something you should be using.
While I may not be at all great on these forums I do at least know what to generally focus on, your drawings have a very muddled shade feel probably because your still trying to work out the drawing and make it look right rather then think of detail. And this will constantly happen until you get a better grasp on the basics.
A lot of figuring out what to improve on is generally up to you to draw a lot and then study over and see what your doing wrong, but if there was going to be anywhere to start, it would be trying to draw simple figures and different poses. Possibly even stick figures. I dont think you saw my old thread but thats generally were I began.
Also I hear the "using your right side of the brain book" is shitty, you don't really need it. The fact that your having issues drawing things such as angles on the head with pencil is a sign of flaw that easily gets hidden when photoshop is used massively.
Legg -There are no shortcuts to the top. First gesture drawings..do them...ALOT of them. 30 seconds a piece focus on fluidity and line control. The goal would be to understand the anatomy of the body, but also how each body part relates to one another in size and distance apart. No color no rendering, these should be glorified stick figures. How do the hips relate to shoulders depending on the stance? How far do the arms extend. Realize that most dynamic poses contain fore-shorting and often skew a limb. Draw these, it will help combat static poses and alleviate rigidity. Refs are good, but it's important to be able to do these without refs as well, that will show you whether or not your understanding what you're drawing or just copying. For faces check out idrawgirls.com no matter what the face he always starts out with the same basic structure, and general guidelines ie. the distance between the eyes is roughly the same as the width of the eye, how wide the mouth should be, where do the ears hit. Again, it's one thing to be able to draw an eye or nose, but understanding how these elements relate to other parts of the face is key to a good face. It's a long road bud, I've been doing this seriously for 10+ years and would consider myself a novice at best. Practice does make perfect, but one first needs to know how to practice.
Drawing enviro's? Learn perspective. It's tedious, it's hard, it feels like math...BUT every piece you do should have utilized some aspect of perspective. Break out the rulers!
Also in regards to "Drawing on the Right.." it's a good book for understanding relationships, but I didn't find it especially helpful. The exercise about drawing something upside down was clever, and did help out with identifying shapes in complex compositions.
Hey man don't beat yourself the fuck up
can we see the reference, we can compare it with your drawing to see where you could improve.
I cant do stick figure/pose drawing at work as I really want to use references for those and I cant really do that at work. And yeah I am getting frustrated pretty quickly these days which sucks because I dont get enough sleep and I'm always tired. Im so keen to progress my drawing I'm sacrificing allot of sleep.
Tim- Idrawgirls.com is what got me into drawing in the first place lol. It was the first concept sort of drawing website I had come across by accident and was like wow i want to do that.
and my left handed (non-preferred hand) drawings. These were challenging. I listed the order I did them as I think i got better when it came to doing the last two being the flowers. The face is a bit wonkey. It really made me think more about putting the strokes down which might help me break bad habbits and develop hopefully good new ones.
Once again I have been trying to avoid lines and just draw shape. Thats what I was sugested to do earlier on by someone on this forum anyway. I kind of like how they turned out. I want to do a few more left handed tonight or tomorrow before I go back to my right. Also. I never really used a pencil on its side before today and It felt really good.
on a note Loom- I think that book was worth the money. It was a fair bit but Ive already learnt some new things like closing one eye (never thought of doing that before) which gives me a whole new perspective on things. a 2D one lol..
Feedback will be great
reference can be found here
http://PB-HASS.deviantart.com/art/for-HARLEN-II-79098209
right side is great for getting people to draw what they see as opposed to what they think they see. however, it needs to be followed with something that's much less part-to-whole, and with something that introduces proper proportions. it's easy to tell when someone is in the "i just finished 'drawing on the right side'" state from the wonkiness and attention to detail in their drawings.
also, the color section in the book, and all the pseudo-science is bullshit, but it's full of useful exercises.
Speaking of proportions I think the arm is a little off in the arm. I think it may of stemmed from stuffing up the shoulders