I think they mentioned something about decaying energy states, and how if they don't get energon, they tend to start falling apart.
Also, machines age quite easily. Not in the same way people do, but over time, metal gets stressed, parts break, etc. And if you're already an older model by that point, and haven't been getting your maintenance, well, getting an upgrade might seem like too much trouble...and eventually, your old parts just can't get replacements.
I think they mentioned something about decaying energy states, and how if they don't get energon, they tend to start falling apart.
Also, machines age quite easily. Not in the same way people do, but over time, metal gets stressed, parts break, etc. And if you're already an older model by that point, and haven't been getting your maintenance, well, getting an upgrade might seem like too much trouble...and eventually, your old parts just can't get replacements.
In short: retrofitting only goes so far.
so somewhere in that aging process do you grow metal facial hair?
I think they mentioned something about decaying energy states, and how if they don't get energon, they tend to start falling apart.
Also, machines age quite easily. Not in the same way people do, but over time, metal gets stressed, parts break, etc. And if you're already an older model by that point, and haven't been getting your maintenance, well, getting an upgrade might seem like too much trouble...and eventually, your old parts just can't get replacements.
In short: retrofitting only goes so far.
so somewhere in that aging process do you grow metal facial hair?
I don't see why not. But maybe things like facial hair aren't actually metal, but crystalline deposits that can accumlate and grow over time...
I know, I'm wanking. I'm just trying to ignore the suck of the movie and bounce ideas for how to make some of its more interesting concepts work on an even vaguely scientific basis.
I think they mentioned something about decaying energy states, and how if they don't get energon, they tend to start falling apart.
Also, machines age quite easily. Not in the same way people do, but over time, metal gets stressed, parts break, etc. And if you're already an older model by that point, and haven't been getting your maintenance, well, getting an upgrade might seem like too much trouble...and eventually, your old parts just can't get replacements.
In short: retrofitting only goes so far.
so somewhere in that aging process do you grow metal facial hair?
I don't see why not. But maybe things like facial hair aren't actually metal, but crystalline deposits that can accumlate and grow over time...
I know, I'm wanking. I'm just trying to ignore the suck of the movie and bounce ideas for how to make some of its more interesting concepts work on an even vaguely scientific basis.
No really, I appreciate that you're giving it effort, so thank you for an honest and informative answer
I just...I mean I know, it's Michael Bay, I just didn't think Transformers actually aged like that
Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
Yup, as are all of the original 13. Though I thought I remember them originally saying that each continuity could only have 1 of the 13, then they changed it to that explanation when bay went and stole the Fallen.
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Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
it's kind of a dumb thing for them to do for their fiction
as it means that, like Unicron, the Fallen just runs around going from universe to universe to universe losing every time
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Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
and if he went to the Shattered Glass universe, his flames would turn to ice
that is hilarious
Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
it's kind of a dumb thing for them to do for their fiction
as it means that, like Unicron, the Fallen just runs around going from universe to universe to universe losing every time
Yeah but for the most part, doesn't he just get imprisoned or something, over and over?
I think this is the first time he's
had his face ripped off and his chest punched through
didn't Bay say something to the effect of running into Obama in an airport and getting him to film a cameo, or something? where was that?
He was just mentioned at one point as President Obama moving to an undisclosed location. I think that means he got permission to use his name, as opposed to making up a fictional character.
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Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
it's kind of a dumb thing for them to do for their fiction
as it means that, like Unicron, the Fallen just runs around going from universe to universe to universe losing every time
Yeah but for the most part, doesn't he just get imprisoned or something, over and over?
I think this is the first time he's
had his face ripped off and his chest punched through
Wait, shit, does that mean Optimus offed the multiverse Fallen? No more Fallen anywhere?
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didn't Bay say something to the effect of running into Obama in an airport and getting him to film a cameo, or something? where was that?
He was just mentioned at one point as President Obama moving to an undisclosed location. I think that means he got permission to use his name, as opposed to making up a fictional character.
I believe there's also a photo/video of him during the Fallens TV transmission during the "Your leaders have failed you" portion of the speech.
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Oh so apparently the Fallen is a multiversal singularity
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
it's kind of a dumb thing for them to do for their fiction
as it means that, like Unicron, the Fallen just runs around going from universe to universe to universe losing every time
Yeah but for the most part, doesn't he just get imprisoned or something, over and over?
I think this is the first time he's
had his face ripped off and his chest punched through
Wait, shit, does that mean Optimus offed the multiverse Fallen? No more Fallen anywhere?
If we're following Unicron's example, no. It'd take more then just his body being taken out to put him down permanently.
BTW, I vote this guy for the third movie's old duffer.
I read through the reviews on rotten tomatoes and I guess I just don't get how people could dislike the movie that much. I thought the jokes were cheesy. I thought the twins were pretty blatant stereotypes. I know there wasn't much to the story, but dammit if I wasn't laughing and enjoying myself with the rest of the theater full of people.
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"My father was a wheel! He was the FIRST wheel! And you know what he transformed into? NOTHING! But he did it with honor, and dignity!"
and
"Earth? What a horrible name for a planet. Might was well call it Dirt.
Planet Dirt."
Yeah. That actually made up for the incontinence joke for me, and put Jetfire in the Plus column.
Like fine wine.
and then time goes by
magic
and a turkey neck
I think they mentioned something about decaying energy states, and how if they don't get energon, they tend to start falling apart.
Also, machines age quite easily. Not in the same way people do, but over time, metal gets stressed, parts break, etc. And if you're already an older model by that point, and haven't been getting your maintenance, well, getting an upgrade might seem like too much trouble...and eventually, your old parts just can't get replacements.
In short: retrofitting only goes so far.
Because they run their server on Jetfire's dad.
so somewhere in that aging process do you grow metal facial hair?
let it go
I don't see why not. But maybe things like facial hair aren't actually metal, but crystalline deposits that can accumlate and grow over time...
I know, I'm wanking. I'm just trying to ignore the suck of the movie and bounce ideas for how to make some of its more interesting concepts work on an even vaguely scientific basis.
tfwiki says that movie optimus has a goatee
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Facial_hair#Movie
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No really, I appreciate that you're giving it effort, so thank you for an honest and informative answer
I just...I mean I know, it's Michael Bay, I just didn't think Transformers actually aged like that
So the movie version is in fact the same character as the comic version, and not just an alternate character like the various Optimuses and Megatrons and such
that's... interesting
Yup, as are all of the original 13. Though I thought I remember them originally saying that each continuity could only have 1 of the 13, then they changed it to that explanation when bay went and stole the Fallen.
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it's kind of a dumb thing for them to do for their fiction
as it means that, like Unicron, the Fallen just runs around going from universe to universe to universe losing every time
and if he went to the Shattered Glass universe, his flames would turn to ice
that is hilarious
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Yeah but for the most part, doesn't he just get imprisoned or something, over and over?
I think this is the first time he's
no, slag you
unless it's like Shattered Expectations
didn't Bay say something to the effect of running into Obama in an airport and getting him to film a cameo, or something? where was that?
He was just mentioned at one point as President Obama moving to an undisclosed location. I think that means he got permission to use his name, as opposed to making up a fictional character.
I caught the name drop, I just didn't think you needed special permission for that
I believe there's also a photo/video of him during the Fallens TV transmission during the "Your leaders have failed you" portion of the speech.
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BTW, I vote this guy for the third movie's old duffer.
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