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The Pirate Bay, Online Apps and DRM

GameGrrlGameGrrl Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Social Entropy++
Goodbye Pirate Bay! It seems they've gone the way of Suprnova and Napster, being bought out, gutted, and soon to be ressurected as a ghost of their former selves.

Since we're not allowed to talk about how to pirate or infringe copyright, I figure this is a good thread to talk about what kind of legal programs you guys use to get data over the internet. I'd also like to hear your thoughts on DRM and the legality of all this.

I use [url="http://www.Steam.com]Steam[/url] a lot, it's pretty much replaced all my computer games purchases now.

Grooveshark is the best for music, you can listen to pretty much any song on there.

I'm still looking for a good Hulu-like TV streaming services that will work in Canada.

I use Google Reader a lot for news aggregation and keeping up to date with worldwide news.

What other services do you guys use online? What do you do with your internet connections?

Also hurf durf downloading porn yes I know.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I am a slave to the big G.

    Google Voice has begun slowly rolling out invites to people. I've had an account with them since it was still GrandCentral, but I'd really like the option to change my number, even if just once.

    Mint.com is great for managing your finances.

    Dropbox is an excellent way to keep files on multiple computers, and share them with others.

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Your persistence is oddly endearing, GameGrrl

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Can't talk about it

    That said, "oh no a torrent site has gone down whatever shall we do"

    Also I use emusic when I have the money. Just got myself an album off it a few days ago

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  • Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    i uh, well, i saw that google voice was inviting people and i was like hey didnt i get invited to grand central

    turns out that i did, but i never finished activating my account back then because i forgot or something?
    and therefore when i logged in they were like, this account never finished activation and is unavailable

    and that was in 2007 when i got that invite, so now i have to wait for a google voice invite

    stupid!

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    There'll be a new Pirate Bay in 2 hours

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    isn't talking about torrents against the site rules?
    and pirate bay is/was the biggest torrent site out there...so.... you know....

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    beavotron wrote: »
    isn't talking about torrents against the site rules?
    and pirate bay is/was the biggest torrent site out there...so.... you know....

    Yeah but I mean shutting down one torrent site just means the rest get bigger

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    crazy, stupid cheap, fully licensed and legal Russian-hosted music website

    pretty much everything is between 8 and 15 cents per track

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Also wish I had heard of dropbox before I spent an assload of time ripping shows to and from my ipod the other day when I set up the new computer

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    it's got a 2GB limit

    also sign up using my link if you like it pls

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    crazy, stupid cheap, fully licensed and legal Russian-hosted music website

    pretty much everything is between 8 and 15 cents per track

    holy shit

    holy shit

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    it's got a 2GB limit

    also sign up using my link if you like it pls

    Yeah fuuuuudge that especially now that I'm all set up

    Last check I had....thirty gigs of music and counting, and another 16-50 gigs of video depending on whether I just have X-Files or X-Files plus something else on here

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I thought those Russian sites were pretty dubious

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    crazy, stupid cheap, fully licensed and legal Russian-hosted music website

    pretty much everything is between 8 and 15 cents per track

    holy shit

    holy shit

    holy shit

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    crazy, stupid cheap, fully licensed and legal Russian-hosted music website

    pretty much everything is between 8 and 15 cents per track
    this is fucking insane

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    I thought those Russian sites were pretty dubious

    the ToS seems pretty legit

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    seriously, I was expecting it to be strictly top pop crap but each disc of Waits' Orphans is only $1.30-$1.62

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    I thought those Russian sites were pretty dubious

    the ToS seems pretty legit

    According to this, they're still on shaky legal ground, at least in the US.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited June 2009
    dropbox reminds me I need to reinstall all the EEE stuff for my laptop

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    what is the EEE stuff

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    The only way I can see myself maybe using Dropbox is if I end up getting the mini laptop so I can store some schoolwork and also a handful of music in it

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's useful without having a second computer. The web interface allows you to download files you've synced as well as undo delete actions. Plus the iPhone interface is super nice.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    I thought those Russian sites were pretty dubious

    the ToS seems pretty legit

    According to this, they're still on shaky legal ground, at least in the US.

    they are, but because they're international the US government/RIAA can't do much about it without working something out with ROMS (the Russian Organization for Multimedia Systems)

    their copyright laws are entirely different and basically allow people to sell music as much as they want until the copyright holder requests their own royalties

    not to mention, if you do a search for "The Beatles", you can buy their albums. the rights to The Beatles catalog isn't available to anyone to sell on any MP3 store at the moment, let alone some random russian website

    i really hope you morons aren't handing over your credit card information to get "legal" 8 cent music downloads

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited June 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    what is the EEE stuff

    None of my keyboard shortcut stuff works on windows 7 so I need to install those drivers

    and I have that 10gb EEE storage thing

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I use Orb to access my music and other stuff on my home computer.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well we can certainly talk about DRM and how much I loathe it

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm fine paying $0.99 a song off amazon.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    It's useful without having a second computer. The web interface allows you to download files you've synced as well as undo delete actions. Plus the iPhone interface is super nice.

    I can see how it would be useful but right now I have no use for it

    The only things I would store are a lot more than 2 gigs

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    oh no, now i'll have to download torrents from the other hundred billion pirate sites

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Also let's talk about how cool emusic is and how they're changing up their pricing model, sorta, and also adding a shitload of music this summer

    They're changing it so if an album is more than....twelve songs I think, you still only use up twelve downloads when you buy it

    Which is awesome

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I use AmazonMP3 and Lala.com for music. Lala albums are usually less than $10, and I can stream them from their site for free from any computer connected to the internet.

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  • George Fornby GrillGeorge Fornby Grill ...Like Clockwork Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm fine with buying songs off of iTunes and Amazon, the latter almost always has good stuff on sale.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Also let's talk about how cool emusic is and how they're changing up their pricing model, sorta, and also adding a shitload of music this summer

    They're changing it so if an album is more than....twelve songs I think, you still only use up twelve downloads when you buy it

    Which is awesome

    emusic is awesome and the changes they're making are awesome

    I just wish they'd add rollover since they increased their subscription prices already to compensate for the album changes

    it's annoying that at the end of each month I have to scramble to spend my MP3 credits or they just disappear

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Monoxide wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    I thought those Russian sites were pretty dubious

    the ToS seems pretty legit

    According to this, they're still on shaky legal ground, at least in the US.

    they are, but because they're international the US government/RIAA can't do much about it without working something out with ROMS (the Russian Organization for Multimedia Systems)

    their copyright laws are entirely different and basically allow people to sell music as much as they want until the copyright holder requests their own royalties

    not to mention, if you do a search for "The Beatles", you can buy their albums. the rights to The Beatles catalog isn't available to anyone to sell on any MP3 store at the moment, let alone some random russian website

    i really hope you morons aren't handing over your credit card information to get "legal" 8 cent music downloads

    maybe if this was 1993 when there was no fraud protection and nobody bothered to check their account

    and they are legal, they are legally purchased in a sovereign nation and transferred to ownership in the us and ex-post-facto law protects anybody that may download now if this actually does become illegal

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    AmieStreet is a neat music seller too. They set the price of an album really low, and as it becomes more popular its price increases, but never to more than ~$.89 a song, so by supporting an artist early on, you wind up saving yourself a few bucks.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Butters wrote: »
    I'm fine paying $0.99 a song off amazon.

    I would use Amazon in a heartbeat, but it isn't available in Canada for some stupid reason that's probably our fault.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Also I didn't mean to start a fight about the Russian e-tailers, I was just voicing my own concerns about'em.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Also let's talk about how cool emusic is and how they're changing up their pricing model, sorta, and also adding a shitload of music this summer

    They're changing it so if an album is more than....twelve songs I think, you still only use up twelve downloads when you buy it

    Which is awesome

    Emusic is pretty sweet, hi5! I was kind of saddened that my old ass, grandfathered-in plan is no longer valid, but I guess adding a ton more music makes up for it.

    I still need to pick the rest of my downloads for this month, though.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    Monoxide wrote: »
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Also let's talk about how cool emusic is and how they're changing up their pricing model, sorta, and also adding a shitload of music this summer

    They're changing it so if an album is more than....twelve songs I think, you still only use up twelve downloads when you buy it

    Which is awesome

    emusic is awesome and the changes they're making are awesome

    I just wish they'd add rollover since they increased their subscription prices already to compensate for the album changes

    it's annoying that at the end of each month I have to scramble to spend my MP3 credits or they just disappear

    Yeah that's irritating

    I just canceled my account again, just because I don't have enough music to buy that's on there to justify it

    It's great when I want some little buttfuck punk band though, or a local band's new album

    Found the live version of My Brain Hurts on there Saturday, that was pretty great

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    Also I didn't mean to start a fight about the Russian e-tailers, I was just voicing my own concerns about'em.

    man that ain't a thing

    they are technically dubious, but not illegal

    or in the very least, if you are somehow caught any competent lawyer would be able to argue their way out of it

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