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Microsoft Courier: A Booklet-Style Tablet

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Check this out: http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet

"Courier is a real device, and we've heard that it's in the "late prototype" stage of development. It's not a tablet, it's a booklet. The dual 7-inch (or so) screens are multitouch, and designed for writing, flicking and drawing with a stylus, in addition to fingers. They're connected by a hinge that holds a single iPhone-esque home button. Statuses, like wireless signal and battery life, are displayed along the rim of one of the screens. On the back cover is a camera, and it might charge through an inductive pad, like the Palm Touchstone charging dock for Pre."

"Two screens, a mashup of a pen-dominated interface with several types of multitouch finger gestures, and multiple graphically complex themes, modes and applications. (Our favorite UI bit? The hinge doubles as a "pocket" to hold items you want move from one page to another.)"

I'd be so up for one of these. It looks like it could replace most of the mobile functionality of my work notebook/laptop, especially when I'm out and about and need to get project details. In fact the embedded video mirrors a lot of the functionality I would use out of such a device.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This is amazing. I really hope it comes out sometime next year.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I want three!

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Onenote and internet are practically the only things that work well on my 5 year old tablet anyway, and this is so much slicker. What would be really nice is if you could turn it sideways and use the 2nd screen as a multi-touch keyboard while using the top in landscape mode

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Spoit wrote: »
    Onenote and internet are practically the only things that work well on my 5 year old tablet anyway, and this is so much slicker. What would be really nice is if you could turn it sideways and use the 2nd screen as a multi-touch keyboard while using the top in landscape mode

    man, I have been hankering for an XO-2, but I think this is what I really always wanted

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Truly, this is the Tablet Messiah, here to lead us to a land flowing in milk and honey.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That is incredible. I'd like to see how Apple could outdo that.

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  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Esh wrote: »
    That is incredible. I'd like to see how Apple could outdo that.
    Give it more curves and make it out of recycled cans.

    This is all kinds of wonderful. I hope that they actually make it leather-bound (even if it's just some limited edition). And do my eyes deceive me? Could these be pie menus at long last?

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Cyvros wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    That is incredible. I'd like to see how Apple could outdo that.
    Give it more curves and make it out of recycled cans.

    This is all kinds of wonderful. I hope that they actually make it leather-bound (even if it's just some limited edition). And do my eyes deceive me? Could these be pie menus at long last?

    I'm sure there will be after market slip covers. And yeah, those pie menus are great.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    It does look like that, doesn't it.

    Frankly, IMO Onenote is the best thing to come out of Redmond this decade, and this looks like it's custom built to get the most out of it. The only thing it's missing is the ability to scan documents like the touchdesk surface

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I dunno. If I have trouble reading my own cursive, how will a small computer like that understand the web pages I write in the address bar?

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Rohan wrote: »
    I dunno. If I have trouble reading my own cursive, how will a small computer like that understand the web pages I write in the address bar?

    There's software now that can learn your handwriting. As long as you actually have a handwriting style that has distinctive, consistent elements, it should theoretically be able to be trained fairly swiftly.

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  • Mazer RackhamMazer Rackham __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2009
    devoir wrote: »
    As long as you actually have a handwriting style that has distinctive, consistent elements, it should theoretically be able to be trained fairly swiftly.

    ahahaha

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I really hope its in the reasonable price range.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    devoir wrote: »
    As long as you actually have a handwriting style that has distinctive, consistent elements, it should theoretically be able to be trained fairly swiftly.

    ahahaha

    Yeah, pretty much. There was little consistent about my cursive when I was in school, and since leaving it the only use I've had for it is signing my name. I type much faster than I write and I remember all too clearly how my wrist and hand hurt when teachers would make us write faster than most of us could keep up with. Now Microsoft brings out an otherwise awesome device that wants me to write again instead of type, and on a shiny surface where my writing at least has always gotten worse than it is on paper.

    Not for me.

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  • blackranger3dblackranger3d Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Who actually writes in cursive once out of grade school? Not that I do much handwriting at all any more, but I was reading an article just yesterday about the slow death of cursive. The only thing most people of our generation use cursive for anymore is their own signatures.

    Nonetheless, a mode where you can bring up a virtual keyboard to the foreground on the screen at any point and then banish it, would be wise. Also like mentioned above, being able to turn it sideways and use the bottom screen primarily as a keyboard. It pretty much has to be able to orient into landscape to accommodate watching full screen videos anyways. I imagine a lot of people would switch to a landscape orientation and leave it that way. People like widescreens.

    IE8 open on the top screen and taking notes in One Note on the bottom works just as well and doesn't have the issue of switching settings for left and right handed users. Like my wife and I for example, we'd likely share the use of one of these and she's right-handed and I'm left. Going into the device settings would be tedious at best, so likely they'd have user profiles with your preferences defined. Still we usually share a user profile on all other devices and logging in and out just when handing the thing back and forth for a few minutes each because we're IMDB'ing some actor while watching a movie on the TV from our couch isn't optimizing our experience.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Color me skeptical on the handwriting recognition. Other than that, it looks good.

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  • Mustachio JonesMustachio Jones jerseyRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've got shit for handwriting, to the point where teachers won't accept my chicken scratch. Windows 7 does a pretty decent job recognizing my handwriting.

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  • blackranger3dblackranger3d Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    rockmonkey wrote: »
    Who actually writes in cursive once out of grade school? Not that I do much handwriting at all any more, but I was reading an article just yesterday about the slow death of cursive.

    I take all my meeting notes in cursive. :P

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've got shit for handwriting, to the point where teachers won't accept my chicken scratch. Windows 7 does a pretty decent job recognizing my handwriting.

    In which case if someone's handwriting isn't recognized and therefore worse than yours it's more a failure of the person than the software, isn't it? I mean all they have to do is TRY to write a little more legibly.

    Most people who have horrible handwriting to the point that this software won't recognize it are only writing that way out of laziness. If you can't be bother to put in a modicum of effort then we'll just settle for this device not being FOR YOU. :lol:

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I would learn how to write neater to use this. That is how awesome it looks.
    I think $500 has to be the ceiling for launch price with expected drops within the year.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited September 2009
    I would learn how to write neater to use this. That is how awesome it looks.
    I think $500 has to be the ceiling for launch price with expected drops within the year.

    Really?

    I would be SURPRISED if it were cheaper than 799.99. We are talking two decently sized LCDs, two WACOM-style tablet screens that include multitouch finger recognition, an impressive software suite, at least decent web browsing capabilities, and book sized.

    500 bucks is unreasonably low for that much cheddar.

    And Microsoft; don't be a dick. Let there be an easy way for this to play nice with us mac users out there.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I would never buy this if there wasn't some easy solution to typing, like some custom keyboard addon that fit the shape of this book and could be firmly attached to it. I'd say the same thing about the Mac tablet.

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    My 32GB ipod touch cost $500 at launch.

    I see this costing $800 and if it's all I hope for and doesn't fall flat I'd gladly pay that.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    syndalis wrote: »
    And Microsoft; don't be a dick. Let there be an easy way for this to play nice with us mac users out there.

    It's called boot-camp :P

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited September 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    And Microsoft; don't be a dick. Let there be an easy way for this to play nice with us mac users out there.

    It's called boot-camp :P

    That totally doesn't count.

    I am speaking more along the lines of whatever file format it writes to be part of the docx/pptx/xlsx world they set up in 2007 and more than adequately offered up in 2008 for the mac.

    Or even better, make it part of their cloud initiative, and have everything go to the Windows Live drive or Sharepoint or whatever else you have to plug in to.

    And if it uses OneNote, then for the love of Abraham Lincoln give mac users a version of that app. Most popular college laptop, and no access to the best notetaking app out there. Fucking shame.

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  • xraydogxraydog Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Pretty neat. What happens when you smash it closed really fast? Since it looks like a notebook I know I'll have the tendency to do that.

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  • Ghostly ClockworkGhostly Clockwork Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well, wow. I have to say, if that does what MS is implying, then that is one sexy piece of tech. I'm hesitant to totally have a nerdgasam, as it is just a mockup, I'll have to wait till it's out of prototype and know some stats like battery life and the like.

    Speaking of which, IS it like a Wacom tablet, namely pressure sensitive, or is it just touch sensitive?

    No matter what, if that comes out soon, and you KNOW MS would love to beat Apple to the tablet punch, I'll probably be first in line. That thing just looks like the Hitchhikers Guide. It may be nice if it came with a optional "Data plan" in that you pay X a month for cellular internet, so you're not tethered to a hotspot as well. In any case, that's some slick design MS, good show :)

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited September 2009
    Dragon6860 wrote: »
    Well, wow. I have to say, if that does what MS is implying, then that is one sexy piece of tech. I'm hesitant to totally have a nerdgasam, as it is just a mockup, I'll have to wait till it's out of prototype and know some stats like battery life and the like.

    Speaking of which, IS it like a Wacom tablet, namely pressure sensitive, or is it just touch sensitive?

    No matter what, if that comes out soon, and you KNOW MS would love to beat Apple to the tablet punch, I'll probably be first in line. That thing just looks like the Hitchhikers Guide. It may be nice if it came with a optional "Data plan" in that you pay X a month for cellular internet, so you're not tethered to a hotspot as well. In any case, that's some slick design MS, good show :)

    Well, it uses a stylus AND a multitouch, and recognizes one from the other. Almost all tablet screens out there with that tech are wacom style.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    syndalis wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    And Microsoft; don't be a dick. Let there be an easy way for this to play nice with us mac users out there.

    It's called boot-camp :P

    That totally doesn't count.

    I am speaking more along the lines of whatever file format it writes to be part of the docx/pptx/xlsx world they set up in 2007 and more than adequately offered up in 2008 for the mac.

    Or even better, make it part of their cloud initiative, and have everything go to the Windows Live drive or Sharepoint or whatever else you have to plug in to.

    And if it uses OneNote, then for the love of Abraham Lincoln give mac users a version of that app. Most popular college laptop, and no access to the best notetaking app out there. Fucking shame.

    Hey, unlike being gay, being a mac owner is a choice.

    You made your bed, man.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited September 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    And Microsoft; don't be a dick. Let there be an easy way for this to play nice with us mac users out there.

    It's called boot-camp :P

    That totally doesn't count.

    I am speaking more along the lines of whatever file format it writes to be part of the docx/pptx/xlsx world they set up in 2007 and more than adequately offered up in 2008 for the mac.

    Or even better, make it part of their cloud initiative, and have everything go to the Windows Live drive or Sharepoint or whatever else you have to plug in to.

    And if it uses OneNote, then for the love of Abraham Lincoln give mac users a version of that app. Most popular college laptop, and no access to the best notetaking app out there. Fucking shame.

    Hey, unlike being gay, being a mac owner is a choice.

    You made your bed, man.
    And 99% of the time it is a damn comfy bed. :P

    And microsoft writes some great software for it, to boot.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Is it just me or is there still yet to be something actually useful for a tablet pc?

    I mean, the only thing that fits near what it might be useful for are very niche applications.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and all.. it just seems to me tablet pc's are a solution that's looking for a problem that doesn't exist.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    A tablet is useful to me, in terms of being able to browse the web with a "mouse" without having to deal with the weight and size of the keyboard when I don't need to type. Which is to say, nice, but hardly worth spending a bunch of extra money on.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Is it just me or is there still yet to be something actually useful for a tablet pc?

    I mean, the only thing that fits near what it might be useful for are very niche applications.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and all.. it just seems to me tablet pc's are a solution that's looking for a problem that doesn't exist.

    Onenote. Seriously, it's that good.

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  • GrimReaperGrimReaper Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Spoit wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Is it just me or is there still yet to be something actually useful for a tablet pc?

    I mean, the only thing that fits near what it might be useful for are very niche applications.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and all.. it just seems to me tablet pc's are a solution that's looking for a problem that doesn't exist.

    Onenote. Seriously, it's that good.

    But again, it's still a niche application. And something like onenote isn't something that's exclusively tablet pc only.

    I can see people using say iphone sized portable computing devices because they're very mobile, something that can fit in a pocket just like a small notepad. But something like a tablet pc requires essentially something like a laptop case and if you have to carry it in a laptop case/bag then why not simply use a laptop? (plus they're likely cheaper)

    I think this thing looks ridiculously nice, but I honestly think these things are solutions in search of a problem. Remember the big push MS had with tablet pc's a while back? You can thank bill gates for that, he had something of an erection for the bloody things. So, MS worked hard to push this stuff (like including support for them by default in vista etc) however the tablet manufacturers all but stopped making them. The reason is because nobody bought them except for very niche applications like as for portable patient notepads in hospitals.

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  • Dark ShroudDark Shroud Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    This would also be a great way to read ebooks. I also wonder if Live Mesh will connect to this as well as it connecting to Windows/Office Live accounts. Hotmail access would also be nice, let alone Office Online when that comes out.

    My God the possibilities are endless with all the different software features that MS has in it's eco system. Depending on what this does I'll get one of these instead of a new Laptop.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    GrimReaper wrote: »
    Is it just me or is there still yet to be something actually useful for a tablet pc?

    I mean, the only thing that fits near what it might be useful for are very niche applications.

    Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and all.. it just seems to me tablet pc's are a solution that's looking for a problem that doesn't exist.

    Onenote. Seriously, it's that good.

    But again, it's still a niche application. And something like onenote isn't something that's exclusively tablet pc only.

    I can see people using say iphone sized portable computing devices because they're very mobile, something that can fit in a pocket just like a small notepad. But something like a tablet pc requires essentially something like a laptop case and if you have to carry it in a laptop case/bag then why not simply use a laptop? (plus they're likely cheaper)

    I think this thing looks ridiculously nice, but I honestly think these things are solutions in search of a problem. Remember the big push MS had with tablet pc's a while back? You can thank bill gates for that, he had something of an erection for the bloody things. So, MS worked hard to push this stuff (like including support for them by default in vista etc) however the tablet manufacturers all but stopped making them. The reason is because nobody bought them except for very niche applications like as for portable patient notepads in hospitals.

    I love the netbook concept: a super-small and lightweight computer that I can just throw in my bag wherever I go and have something to do web surfing/word processing/etc on with more comfort than my tiny smartphone. This is just an extension of that: most netbook keyboards suck anyway, and these days everyone's orgasming over multitouch, so this swaps out a shitty keyboard for multitouch and adds in the benefit of a smaller footprint and/or a larger screen.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    A lot of the time I would like to pull my laptop out and do some work when I have a few minutes here and there, or I'm needing to urgently grab a file to check something when I'm out on the road.

    Doing it with a laptop is a pain in the ass, despite the high quality stuff we get. Something that's always on, is small and well designed like what this looks like will be ideal.

    It's a business and productivity device more than anything, it's not going to have the mass appeal of the iphone. I think people are expecting a size 2 body to fill a size 6 pair of jeans by some of the comments/observations/opinions in this thread.

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Here is my pattern of thought on the hard-on for tablets. Look at the iphone/ipod touch. I have an ipod touch, I love it. The battery lasts forever in standby so it's always ready and all it takes is for me to slide my finger across the screen and unlock it. I Don't worry about booting up, logging in, waiting for crap to load in the background and settle down before clicking on an application and then waiting for it to load before I can do anything, but the opposite is true for desktops, laptops, netbooks. the ipod touch is almost instant. I can click videos and select a movie and each screen move to the next instantly, no load/wait and within 3 seconds I go from the home screen to watching Ratatouille in amazingly clear picture.

    The only hinderance I've encountered on the ipod touch is web browsing due to it's size. The screen is small and it's hard to click on what you want without zooming way in or dragging the page all over the screen. Even so it's still leaps and bounds better then my experience on a typical smartphone like the blackberry.

    The solution to this is make it a little bit bigger and it's suddenly a hundred times easier to navigate the web and more enjoyable to use. Right now almost everything on devices and gadgets involve the internet, and browsing the web is what most people love to do. Whether it's discussing technology on a forum for a webcomic or constantly updating your status on facebook or twittering about that crap you just took.

    Most people love the multi-touch interface and instant feel of the iphone/touch, people are going crazy for e-readers, and people also love netbooks for being able to access the internet on the go without lugging a big laptop around or getting pissed off because your blackberry is too fucking small to navigate. The one thing that ties all three of those together is a multi-touch tablet that's small, thin and slick.

    People got sick of carrying around too many gadgets. It's happened in the past and it's happening again. First it was a cell phone, pager, pda, laptop. Slowly the herd is culled, bye bye obsolete pager, bye bye pda my phone does that now. In this day we have the netbook, kindle, cell phone, and possibly ipod (mp3 player). It was already been figured out that the cell phone and mp3 player can be merged, so now cell phones double for music players and ipods double as cell phones. They tried to throw the iternet in, but it just isn't the same.

    I imagine Apple (and microsoft) would like everyone to have an iphone (zune) and their future tablet (courier) to cover for all your mobile gadgets. They will also allow you to sync them. I don't see us combining the two down to one gadget anytime soon as anything suitably small enough to be a phone and mp3 player is thus too small to watch movies/read books/ take notes/ and browse the iternet on comfortably, and vise versa.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I've known of very few people (outside of maybe medicine) who carried around both a cellphone and a pager.

    there wasn't a coalescence there, one flat our replaced the other.

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