The new rules keep most of the trolls in check. Although there should probably not be a rule about complaining or "talking behind the back" of a post or poster, if a new topic bitching about it wouldn't be allowed, a reply to the chat thread wouldn't be either. It would be the normal PM to a mod/admin/etc.
I have to agree, that chat threads pre-revamp were complete stupidity.
It was just a little cube of SE++.
I'm glad someone stepped in and set it right. Now maybe it is approachable.
I was at a loss to explain why the Chat Thread was taken away from us a month ago and I'm at a loss to explain how this new "version" is any different.
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The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides. -- Carl Sagan
For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. -- Also Carl Sagan
I have to agree, that chat threads pre-revamp were complete stupidity.
It was just a little cube of SE++.
I'm glad someone stepped in and set it right. Now maybe it is approachable.
I was at a loss to explain why the Chat Thread was taken away from us a month ago and I'm at a loss to explain how this new "version" is any different.
The difference is in this one, you're turning bbcode off because you're afraid of pheezer jailing you.
The chat threads started sucking (for me at least) around 200 or so. THe community has just changed too much, I'm not coming back to the chat threads. There's just nothing there for me.
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My sweet, untouched Miranda
And while the seagulls are crying
We fall but our souls are flying
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Just_Bri_ThanksSeething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPAregular
edited July 2005
My biggest concern is the "No one is above the law!" clause.
Before this day, and I will not mention any names, moderators have been known to thumb thier nose at the rules as hard if not harder than anyone else.
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chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
I have to agree, that chat threads pre-revamp were complete stupidity.
It was just a little cube of SE++.
I'm glad someone stepped in and set it right. Now maybe it is approachable.
I was at a loss to explain why the Chat Thread was taken away from us a month ago and I'm at a loss to explain how this new "version" is any different.
The difference is in this one, you're turning bbcode off because you're afraid of pheezer jailing you.
Well there is that, yes. Although I likely would have started doing that even without the hiatus.
Nfinit Vylence on
The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides. -- Carl Sagan
For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. -- Also Carl Sagan
That's not a relaxing chat thread, that's just the opposite. It's like talking to someone, and there's a guy behind you smacking you in the back of the head when what you say doesn't suit him, and eventually you don't even want to talk anymore
You mean like today when I made a single conversational post in the form of using extra "return" strokes
like this
to convey a certain way of speaking, (deep breaths/ audience waits with baited breath) and was promptly told I was spamming the thread?
Yeah, that sucks something fierce. Especially when people with quote trees several quotes deep post on either side of my post and get no flak. Gosh, how many posts like that have you guys seen here? I'm thinking in the thousands.
Granted I wasn't jailed for it (phew!) and I didnt even bother to contest something so trivial... and ACTUALLY muck up the thread, but there it is . And just like Txdo suggests, I just didnt want to bother talking in there anymore.
I also hear in D&D people have to watch their sexual innuendo now or something? Are climates a-changing?
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FalloutGIRL'S DAYWAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered Userregular
You mean like today when I made a single conversational post in the form of using extra "return" strokes (enter enter enter)
like this (enter enter enter)
to convey a certain way of speaking, (deep breaths/ audience waits with baited breath) and was promptly told I was spamming the thread?
Origina post edited for space.
Maybe I was alone in this, but I didn't get that you meant that as a way for it to be read (if the above post wasn't entirely sarcasm). It seemed like the spaces were there just for the flying hell of it which, yeah, is annoying.
If you weren't kidding about the spaces being used to convey speech pattern, then perhaps there's another way to go about that besides random spaces? There's the random elipses that, while they piss on grammar, many seem to be fond of.
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FalloutGIRL'S DAYWAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered Userregular
You mean like today when I made a single conversational post in the form of using extra "return" strokes (enter enter enter)
like this (enter enter enter)
to convey a certain way of speaking, (deep breaths/ audience waits with baited breath) and was promptly told I was spamming the thread?
Origina post edited for space.
Maybe I was alone in this, but I didn't get that you meant that as a way for it to be read (if the above post wasn't entirely sarcasm). It seemed like the spaces were there just for the flying hell of it which, yeah, is annoying.
If you weren't kidding about the spaces being used to convey speech pattern, then perhaps there's another way to go about that besides random spaces? There's the random elipses that, while they piss on grammar, many seem to be fond of.
He wasn't kidding. I use it all the time, Whippy is famous/notorious for it, and I see more people both old and new starting to use it as well. It's hardly a way to post when you're in 100% STRICT SERIOUS BUSINESS mode, but
you know
whatever
I don't understand how it could be considered spamming. :?
So is it now against the rules to make a post like "I'm not wearing any pants. Also it's raining." or is it just that you can't make a post like that in an especially pointless and annoying way, like "I'm (enter enter enter enter enter enter enter) NOT WEARING ANY PA(enter)NTS (enter enter enter enter enter)also it's raining"?
Because I don't think a few sporadic spammy posts are a bad thing in the chat thread. As long as they don't snowball into a huge quote tree of aeolist talking to himself or something like that.
So is it now against the rules to make a post like "I'm not wearing any pants. Also it's raining." or is it just that you can't make a post like that in an especially pointless and annoying way, like "I'm (enter enter enter enter enter enter enter) NOT WEARING ANY PA(enter)NTS (enter enter enter enter enter)also it's raining"?
Because I don't think a few sporadic spammy posts are a bad thing in the chat thread. As long as they don't snowball into a huge quote tree of aeolist talking to himself or something like that.
The problem is though, that it would be really hard to enforce such a selective rule without incurring all sorts of wrath. It's easier on the mods to just toss down a blanket rule and work with it rather than having to deal with little stuff on a case by case basis.
So is it now against the rules to make a post like "I'm not wearing any pants. Also it's raining." or is it just that you can't make a post like that in an especially pointless and annoying way, like "I'm (enter enter enter enter enter enter enter) NOT WEARING ANY PA(enter)NTS (enter enter enter enter enter)also it's raining"?
Because I don't think a few sporadic spammy posts are a bad thing in the chat thread. As long as they don't snowball into a huge quote tree of aeolist talking to himself or something like that.
The problem is though, that it would be really hard to enforce such a selective rule without incurring all sorts of wrath. It's easier on the mods to just toss down a blanket rule and work with it rather than having to deal with little stuff on a case by case basis.
I just want to get a feeling for what the mods feel is "too much" now.
The post didn't have any substance to it. It was 'hey guys, i visited a bar. i'd post pictures but i can't.'
So it was chatting.
What exactly do you guys intend us to use the thread for, anyway?
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The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there's little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides. -- Carl Sagan
For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. -- Also Carl Sagan
The post didn't have any substance to it. It was 'hey guys, i visited a bar. i'd post pictures but i can't.'
So it was chatting.
What exactly do you guys intend us to use the thread for, anyway?
Certainly not for having fun.
That is what SE++ is for.
That's what this is coming down to: we want our own little slice of SE++ back, but without all the SE++.
Annnnd, you can't have it.
The chat thread is for carrying on conversations. It's not for "maeking poast", if you will. Yes, that can be a pretty grey area. That's why we don't make just anyone a mod, we generally pick people we think have the ability to make reasonable judgement calls, and react in a rational manner when contested.
Try keeping all of that in mind.
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IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
I also hear in D&D people have to watch their sexual innuendo now or something? Are climates a-changing?
nah, we're cool, we just can't do it for ten pages in a row anymore. Which is fair enough, really.
Dude, we can totally make innuendo for as long as we want. It was the blatant, unsubtle homoeroticism that we can't do for ten pages at a time anymore.
I also hear in D&D people have to watch their sexual innuendo now or something? Are climates a-changing?
nah, we're cool, we just can't do it for ten pages in a row anymore. Which is fair enough, really.
Dude, we can totally make innuendo for as long as we want. It was the blatant, unsubtle homoeroticism that we can't do for ten pages at a time anymore.
I don't think we in D&D have the power any longer to distinguish between innuendo and blatant, unsubtle homoeroticism.
The post didn't have any substance to it. It was 'hey guys, i visited a bar. i'd post pictures but i can't.'
So it was chatting.
What exactly do you guys intend us to use the thread for, anyway?
Certainly not for having fun.
That is what SE++ is for.
That's what this is coming down to: we want our own little slice of SE++ back, but without all the SE++.
Annnnd, you can't have it.
The chat thread is for carrying on conversations. It's not for "maeking poast", if you will. Yes, that can be a pretty grey area.
Interestingly, SE++ is labeled as a chat forum.
Fine, that's it, I no longer have any faith whatsoever in forumers. I don't know if you're trying to be funny, or if you really don't get it, or what, and I don't even care. Good gravy.
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IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
The post didn't have any substance to it. It was 'hey guys, i visited a bar. i'd post pictures but i can't.'
So it was chatting.
What exactly do you guys intend us to use the thread for, anyway?
Thank-you NV. Exactly. I told a short story about an event from my day. I'm sure going to a strip bar during work is something that happens to people all the time, and they also sneak in a camera to take shots, and talk to strange old men while they're there.
People could have talked about strippers or times they've gone to a men's club, or bugging off during work to do certain things, or taking candid shots of naked people. The potential topics for chatting are numerous. But sorry, no:
"DEVOID OF CONTENT."
I'm not trying to make this a personal thing, I would have shook my head if someone else was told they were spamming after a similiar post. I really dont care about it, but like... Txdo was saying... who even wants to bother trying?
edit: i've seen several posts in that style, in G&T, in supposed topical threads, just today since this post
The post didn't have any substance to it. It was 'hey guys, i visited a bar. i'd post pictures but i can't.'
So it was chatting.
What exactly do you guys intend us to use the thread for, anyway?
Certainly not for having fun.
That is what SE++ is for.
That's what this is coming down to: we want our own little slice of SE++ back, but without all the SE++.
Annnnd, you can't have it.
The chat thread is for carrying on conversations. It's not for "maeking poast", if you will. Yes, that can be a pretty grey area.
Interestingly, SE++ is labeled as a chat forum.
Fine, that's it, I no longer have any faith whatsoever in forumers. I don't know if you're trying to be funny, or if you really don't get it, or what, and I don't even care. Good gravy.
He has a point though. Why call it a "CHAT" thread if it's not?
He has a point though. Why call it a "CHAT" thread if it's not?
Well to be fair it is. We just can't go off on tangents as mcuh and we have to at least make a sort of sense.I imagine the new Chat thread ideal as being like a group of friends hangin together just chillin and chewing the fat. Not just posting reams of random stuff that doesn't really make sense.
He has a point though. Why call it a "CHAT" thread if it's not?
Well to be fair it is. We just can't go off on tangents as mcuh and we have to at least make a sort of sense.I imagine the new Chat thread ideal as being like a group of friends hangin together just chillin and chewing the fat. Not just posting reams of random stuff that doesn't really make sense.
This is exactly the point and the goal and what's actually happening as a result of all those big mean new rules.
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IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
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It was just a little cube of SE++.
I'm glad someone stepped in and set it right. Now maybe it is approachable.
I was at a loss to explain why the Chat Thread was taken away from us a month ago and I'm at a loss to explain how this new "version" is any different.
For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. -- Also Carl Sagan
My sweet, untouched Miranda
And while the seagulls are crying
We fall but our souls are flying
Before this day, and I will not mention any names, moderators have been known to thumb thier nose at the rules as hard if not harder than anyone else.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Well there is that, yes. Although I likely would have started doing that even without the hiatus.
For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. -- Also Carl Sagan
You mean like today when I made a single conversational post in the form of using extra "return" strokes
like this
to convey a certain way of speaking, (deep breaths/ audience waits with baited breath) and was promptly told I was spamming the thread?
Yeah, that sucks something fierce. Especially when people with quote trees several quotes deep post on either side of my post and get no flak. Gosh, how many posts like that have you guys seen here? I'm thinking in the thousands.
Granted I wasn't jailed for it (phew!) and I didnt even bother to contest something so trivial... and ACTUALLY muck up the thread, but there it is . And just like Txdo suggests, I just didnt want to bother talking in there anymore.
I also hear in D&D people have to watch their sexual innuendo now or something? Are climates a-changing?
Origina post edited for space.
Maybe I was alone in this, but I didn't get that you meant that as a way for it to be read (if the above post wasn't entirely sarcasm). It seemed like the spaces were there just for the flying hell of it which, yeah, is annoying.
If you weren't kidding about the spaces being used to convey speech pattern, then perhaps there's another way to go about that besides random spaces? There's the random elipses that, while they piss on grammar, many seem to be fond of.
He wasn't kidding. I use it all the time, Whippy is famous/notorious for it, and I see more people both old and new starting to use it as well. It's hardly a way to post when you're in 100% STRICT SERIOUS BUSINESS mode, but
you know
whatever
I don't understand how it could be considered spamming. :?
nah, we're cool, we just can't do it for ten pages in a row anymore. Which is fair enough, really.
Posting an image is fine, having three people quote it so it shows up on the same page four times is not.
Which is, of course, the concept of spam.
That's ridiculous. Spacing for the purposes of conveying a manner of speech does not make a post "mostly devoid of content".
Oh, only people not worth your time would ever post like that. Thanks. Maybe I'll try a zany anime screencap next time.
Er, no.
I guess this is getting kinda far off topic.
Because I don't think a few sporadic spammy posts are a bad thing in the chat thread. As long as they don't snowball into a huge quote tree of aeolist talking to himself or something like that.
The problem is though, that it would be really hard to enforce such a selective rule without incurring all sorts of wrath. It's easier on the mods to just toss down a blanket rule and work with it rather than having to deal with little stuff on a case by case basis.
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So it was chatting.
What exactly do you guys intend us to use the thread for, anyway?
For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love. -- Also Carl Sagan
That is what SE++ is for.
That's what this is coming down to: we want our own little slice of SE++ back, but without all the SE++.
Annnnd, you can't have it.
The chat thread is for carrying on conversations. It's not for "maeking poast", if you will. Yes, that can be a pretty grey area. That's why we don't make just anyone a mod, we generally pick people we think have the ability to make reasonable judgement calls, and react in a rational manner when contested.
Try keeping all of that in mind.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
I don't think we in D&D have the power any longer to distinguish between innuendo and blatant, unsubtle homoeroticism.
At least, I know I can't.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
Thank-you NV. Exactly. I told a short story about an event from my day. I'm sure going to a strip bar during work is something that happens to people all the time, and they also sneak in a camera to take shots, and talk to strange old men while they're there.
People could have talked about strippers or times they've gone to a men's club, or bugging off during work to do certain things, or taking candid shots of naked people. The potential topics for chatting are numerous. But sorry, no:
"DEVOID OF CONTENT."
I'm not trying to make this a personal thing, I would have shook my head if someone else was told they were spamming after a similiar post. I really dont care about it, but like... Txdo was saying... who even wants to bother trying?
edit: i've seen several posts in that style, in G&T, in supposed topical threads, just today since this post
He has a point though. Why call it a "CHAT" thread if it's not?
This is exactly the point and the goal and what's actually happening as a result of all those big mean new rules.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH