I have no idea why, because first of all I'm not really sure if it's legal to employ the armed forces against our own citizens, and second of all, because it'd be fucking lunacy
The tactic was basically drop a shitload of CS gas, fix bayonets, hold your breath and close your eyes, and keep marching forward no matter what your bayonet gets caught on
I have no idea why, because first of all I'm not really sure if it's legal to employ the armed forces against our own citizens, and second of all, because it'd be fucking lunacy
The tactic was basically drop a shitload of CS gas, fix bayonets, hold your breath and close your eyes, and keep marching forward no matter what your bayonet gets caught on
Maybe riots in foreign countries, a la Rules of Engagement?
edit: Also I am apparently an idiot. I didn't notice the 'in theory' bit. Carry on!:oops:
I have no idea why, because first of all I'm not really sure if it's legal to employ the armed forces against our own citizens, and second of all, because it'd be fucking lunacy
The tactic was basically drop a shitload of CS gas, fix bayonets, hold your breath and close your eyes, and keep marching forward no matter what your bayonet gets caught on
Maybe riots in foreign countries, a la Rules of Engagement?
All I'm saying is that the police, even in the US, isn't the geheime staatspolizei and have limits as to what they're allowed to do
And not all of them are schweine to be tossed firebombs and rocks at as much as possible
While this may be true, four out of the five interactions I've ever had with the Police in the UK involved me being detained, searched, and/or threatened with violence. I'm just going with the established pattern here.
All I'm saying is that the police, even in the US, isn't the geheime staatspolizei and have limits as to what they're allowed to do
And not all of them are schweine to be tossed firebombs and rocks at as much as possible
have you read the sheriff joe thread
gimme the cliff notes version
it doesn't really contradict your point but it basically describes how the authorities in arizona prey on anti-immigrant sentiment to turn the state into a banana republic
long story short they're not prosecuted in part because they've got enough ordnance to start a small-scale war, their boss sheriff joe owns a tank
the united states has a social environment that makes those situations a matter of time rather than a disturbing exception to the rule
All I'm saying is that the police, even in the US, isn't the geheime staatspolizei and have limits as to what they're allowed to do
And not all of them are schweine to be tossed firebombs and rocks at as much as possible
While this may be true, four out of the five interactions I've ever had with the Police in the UK involved me being detained, searched, and/or threatened with violence. I'm just going with the established pattern here.
Yeah then you're probably some kind of gay desperado-addict
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All I'm saying is that the police, even in the US, isn't the geheime staatspolizei and have limits as to what they're allowed to do
And not all of them are schweine to be tossed firebombs and rocks at as much as possible
have you read the sheriff joe thread
gimme the cliff notes version
from wikipedia:
During the summer of 2003, when outside temperatures exceeded 110 °F (43 °C), which is higher than average, Arpaio said to complaining inmates, "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents, have to wear full body armor, and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths."[24] Inmates were given permission to wear only their pink underwear.
One of Arpaio's most visible public relations actions was the introduction of pink underwear, which the Maricopa County Sheriff's website cites as being "world famous."[28]
Arpaio subsequently started to sell customized pink boxers (with the Maricopa County Sheriff's logo and "Go Joe") as a fund-raiser for Sheriff's Posse Association. Despite allegations of misuse of funds received from these sales, Arpaio declined to provide an accounting for the money [29].
Arpaio's success in gaining press coverage with the pink underwear resulted in him extending the use of the color. He introduced pink handcuffs, using the event to promote his book, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, America's Toughest Sheriff.[30]
[edit] Underwear march
In 2005, nearly 700 maximum-security prisoners were marched the four blocks from Towers Jail to the newly opened Lower Buckeye Jail, wearing only their underwear and flip-flops, nominally to prevent the concealment of weapons. Prisoners were strip-searched when they left Towers Jail and again when they reached their destination.[31]
"It's a security issue," Arpaio said. "If you let them wear their clothes, they can conceal the fake keys and everything else.[32]
[edit] Webcasts of pretrial detainees
Starting in July 2000, the Maricopa County Sheriff's website hosted Jail Cam, a 24-hour Internet webcast of images from cameras in the Madison Street Jail, a facility which processed and housed only pretrial detainees. The stated goals of the broadcasts were the deterrence of future crime and improved public scrutiny of jail procedures. The cameras showed arrestees being brought in handcuffed, fingerprinted, booked, and taken to holding cells; with the site receiving millions of hits per day.[33] Twenty-four former detainees brought suit against the Sheriff's office, arguing that their Fourteenth Amendment rights of due process had been violated.
U.S. District Court Judge Earl H. Carroll held in favor of the former detainees, issuing an injunction ending the webcasts. By a 2 to 1 vote, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the injunction, with the majority opinion stating:
... Second, Sheriff Arpaio argues that the cameras are justified by the County’s interest in having its pretrial detention centers open to public scrutiny. We have given prison officials wide latitude in administering pretrial detention facilities, in guaranteeing detainees’ attendance at trial, and in promoting prison safety. But we fail to see how turning pretrial detainees into the unwilling objects of the latest reality show serves any of these legitimate goals. As the Supreme Court has recognized, "nmates . . . are not like animals in a zoo to be filmed and photographed at will by the public or by media reporters, however ‘educational’ the process may be for others.[34][35]
All I'm saying is that the police, even in the US, isn't the geheime staatspolizei and have limits as to what they're allowed to do
And not all of them are schweine to be tossed firebombs and rocks at as much as possible
While this may be true, four out of the five interactions I've ever had with the Police in the UK involved me being detained, searched, and/or threatened with violence. I'm just going with the established pattern here.
Yeah then you're probably some kind of gay desperado-addict
The four were me being "randomly" stopped under sweeping powers granted to Strathclyde Police to deal with knife crime. The fifth was some polisman at my door because my next door neighbour's car got broken into.
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They can't get away with shotguns.
I have no idea why, because first of all I'm not really sure if it's legal to employ the armed forces against our own citizens, and second of all, because it'd be fucking lunacy
The tactic was basically drop a shitload of CS gas, fix bayonets, hold your breath and close your eyes, and keep marching forward no matter what your bayonet gets caught on
...because in theory they're supposed to not harm people more than necessary.
Maybe riots in foreign countries, a la Rules of Engagement?
edit: Also I am apparently an idiot. I didn't notice the 'in theory' bit. Carry on!:oops:
Maybe so. Still, a pretty fucking bad idea.
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And not all of them are schweine to be tossed firebombs and rocks at as much as possible
have you read the sheriff joe thread
Yeah, again, I misread the post. I agree, and sorry!
edit: Sherrif Joe should have rocks tossed at him.
gimme the cliff notes version
He is every cowboy cop boss hogg stereotype given flesh, not to mention power hungry and corrupt.
While this may be true, four out of the five interactions I've ever had with the Police in the UK involved me being detained, searched, and/or threatened with violence. I'm just going with the established pattern here.
Imagine, the worst, most corrupt, most hick-esque, most ugly, most authoritarian, most stereotypical police sheriff.
THis is Sheriff Joe.
it doesn't really contradict your point but it basically describes how the authorities in arizona prey on anti-immigrant sentiment to turn the state into a banana republic
long story short they're not prosecuted in part because they've got enough ordnance to start a small-scale war, their boss sheriff joe owns a tank
the united states has a social environment that makes those situations a matter of time rather than a disturbing exception to the rule
Yeah then you're probably some kind of gay desperado-addict
from wikipedia:
One of Arpaio's most visible public relations actions was the introduction of pink underwear, which the Maricopa County Sheriff's website cites as being "world famous."[28]
Arpaio subsequently started to sell customized pink boxers (with the Maricopa County Sheriff's logo and "Go Joe") as a fund-raiser for Sheriff's Posse Association. Despite allegations of misuse of funds received from these sales, Arpaio declined to provide an accounting for the money [29].
Arpaio's success in gaining press coverage with the pink underwear resulted in him extending the use of the color. He introduced pink handcuffs, using the event to promote his book, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, America's Toughest Sheriff.[30]
[edit] Underwear march
In 2005, nearly 700 maximum-security prisoners were marched the four blocks from Towers Jail to the newly opened Lower Buckeye Jail, wearing only their underwear and flip-flops, nominally to prevent the concealment of weapons. Prisoners were strip-searched when they left Towers Jail and again when they reached their destination.[31]
"It's a security issue," Arpaio said. "If you let them wear their clothes, they can conceal the fake keys and everything else.[32]
[edit] Webcasts of pretrial detainees
Starting in July 2000, the Maricopa County Sheriff's website hosted Jail Cam, a 24-hour Internet webcast of images from cameras in the Madison Street Jail, a facility which processed and housed only pretrial detainees. The stated goals of the broadcasts were the deterrence of future crime and improved public scrutiny of jail procedures. The cameras showed arrestees being brought in handcuffed, fingerprinted, booked, and taken to holding cells; with the site receiving millions of hits per day.[33] Twenty-four former detainees brought suit against the Sheriff's office, arguing that their Fourteenth Amendment rights of due process had been violated.
U.S. District Court Judge Earl H. Carroll held in favor of the former detainees, issuing an injunction ending the webcasts. By a 2 to 1 vote, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the injunction, with the majority opinion stating:
... Second, Sheriff Arpaio argues that the cameras are justified by the County’s interest in having its pretrial detention centers open to public scrutiny. We have given prison officials wide latitude in administering pretrial detention facilities, in guaranteeing detainees’ attendance at trial, and in promoting prison safety. But we fail to see how turning pretrial detainees into the unwilling objects of the latest reality show serves any of these legitimate goals. As the Supreme Court has recognized, "nmates . . . are not like animals in a zoo to be filmed and photographed at will by the public or by media reporters, however ‘educational’ the process may be for others.[34][35]
The four were me being "randomly" stopped under sweeping powers granted to Strathclyde Police to deal with knife crime. The fifth was some polisman at my door because my next door neighbour's car got broken into.
I like the cut of your jib.
these days most u.s. cops dream of being able to get away with shit that easily
it's clearly the easiest way to solve this problem
The best way would for him to be tried.
Sprint is a little cheaper than AT&T. $5-10 a month.
Probably.
Yes.
but that's expensive and takes a looong time
this is more cost and time effective
Sprint appeared to be closer to $70 or $100 dollars, not $5.
Nah.
So you're saying that the US criminal justice system should operate like the Gestapo?
We're all bad people.
Only against its own officials.
you should probably cool your jets, the amount of forced edginess in this thread is reaching critical mass
It's $5-10 cheaper a month than AT&T.
I can live with being a little bad, I suppose.