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Bomb the Moon, win the Nobel Peace Prize

Ebz123Ebz123 Registered User regular
edited October 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8298580.stm

To quote the link above:

'The Nobel Committee said he was awarded it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".

The committee highlighted Mr Obama's efforts to strengthen international bodies and promote nuclear disarmament.

What do people think, deserved or premature?'

To clear up the process

Obama was nominated in February along with ~170 other candidates and ~30 organisations

Voting took place on October 5th and the panel voted unanimously for Obama.

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  • SaigaSaiga Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Didn't Al Gore receive one as well?

    Either way, he hasn't really quite done anything yet, so I'll go with premature.

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  • chidonachidona Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Woah.

    I'm not entirely sure, but I feel it is deserved if premature. He has been such an inspirational figurehead for not only his country, but for the entire World - he has really been an unstoppable force that, while maybe being less effective in practical terms than was expected, has acted for a positive change in the Zeitgeist.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Al Gore got it for his work on environmental issues and it was shared with UN's climate panel.
    Obama's gone done nuffin yet, I'll go with premature as well.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Frankly, premature as shit..he may have been historic and gamechanging and stunning so far, but he has a long way to go

    but you know, still...WOOO SUCK IT SARKOZY

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited October 2009
    The committee emphasized his work for nuclear disarmament, but also talks about his work for the environment, democracy and a more transparent government.

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  • Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    The committee emphasized his work for nuclear disarmament, but also talks about his work for the environment, democracy and a more transparent government.

    Well yes. But have anything actually changed yet? I think results should be the biggest factor in deciding who get's it. Otherwise anyone with a soapbox and an opinion could get it on the basis that they're committed to their cause.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

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  • Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

    Elaborate, please.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

    Elaborate, please.

    When the IOC kicked Chicago out of the running for the 2016 Games in the first round, Drudge and the other morons claimed that it was a sign that the world was rejecting Obama.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    First reaction? "Oh, god no, this is to fucking soon".

    Obama might be an inspirational figure and his election changed american/gobal society for good, but this is too fucking soon.

    As a Norwegian I appologise for the suck ups in the Nobel Commitee.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

    Elaborate, please.

    When the IOC kicked Chicago out of the running for the 2016 Games in the first round, Drudge and the other morons claimed that it was a sign that the world was rejecting Obama.

    That's stupid.

    They chose the best candidate.

    Which wasn't Chicago.
    Chicago sucks
    :P

    edit: And I will echo the cries of "what? already?"

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  • LindenLinden Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'd be interested in seeing more of the justification behind this - information is a little sketchy right now. The Peace prize is pretty consistently given rapidly, in contrast to the others. I can certainly see the inspirational angle, and there are a few other impacts that are worth noticing (I remember a few mutterings around nuclear weapons).

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  • Curly_BraceCurly_Brace Robot Girl Mimiga VillageRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

    Elaborate, please.

    When the IOC kicked Chicago out of the running for the 2016 Games in the first round, Drudge and the other morons claimed that it was a sign that the world was rejecting Obama.

    Ooooh! Right right, I forgot the IOC was in Copenhagen.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

    Elaborate, please.

    When the IOC kicked Chicago out of the running for the 2016 Games in the first round, Drudge and the other morons claimed that it was a sign that the world was rejecting Obama.

    Eeer. No, no I don't think the Norwegian Nobel Committee took into account that some random American dude said something about sports last week

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Movitz wrote: »
    Nthing the "too soon" sentiments. Or maybe the Nobel Prize committee is assuming he'll be so bogged down in American politics* he won't be able to do anything in the future... which is a definite possibility.

    (*i.e. conservative pundits advocating violent revolution and such)

    It could be a reaction to the whole "the world rejected Obama in Copenhagen" bullshit too.

    Elaborate, please.

    When the IOC kicked Chicago out of the running for the 2016 Games in the first round, Drudge and the other morons claimed that it was a sign that the world was rejecting Obama.

    Eeer. No, no I don't think the Norwegian Nobel Committee took into account that some random dude said something about sports.

    Matt Drudge != "some random dude".

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Random journalist dude, better?

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Well, though I feel this is too soon, I like to think he'll earn it someday.

    So it doesn't bug me too much.

    Also, isn't the Peace award kind of the popularity one?

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  • BoredomBoredom Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SnL's criticism of him is spot on and this is undeserved.

    We don't even know if he's going to be good in the future.

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  • fjafjanfjafjan Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah this was not in response to Matt Drudge, seriously. It was however magnificently stupid, he hasn't even gone a quarter/an eigth of his presidency and this give him the damn peace prize? There are other people out there who do a lot of good for peace, how about recognizing one of the little dudes that don't get enough credit rather than suck up to the guy who is already in the news every damn day? Geugh

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  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Premature if not outright wrong.

    I do want to see how Beck and Rush respond to this, though.

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  • Ebz123Ebz123 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I think everyone can agree that we're glad it didn't go to Michael Jackson

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited October 2009
    I predict some talking head will say this proves Obama is a communist since the prize is given by a communist country.

    Anyone betting against?

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  • SaigaSaiga Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Boredom wrote: »
    SnL's criticism of him is spot on and this is undeserved.

    We don't even know if he's going to be good in the future.



    This.
    Ebz123 wrote: »
    I think everyone can agree that we're glad it didn't go to Michael Jackson

    He's done more internationally in my book, but that's not the point.

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  • MovitzMovitz Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Ebz123 wrote: »
    I think everyone can agree that we're glad it didn't go to Michael Jackson

    Holy god that is awful.

    Fortunately the Nobel Prize is never awarded posthumously. You can stop worrying

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    People actually care about SNL's criticism? They only did it because there isn't anything they can easily imitate to support their horrible writing.

    I mean this is a bit soon but it's out of Obama's control, so there's nothing he could really do about it. Any country can give you an award for something at any time, and you just kinda have to deal with it.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Definitely too soon. I like Obama, but he hasn't really done anything yet. His global popularity has more to do with him symbolically than it has to do with his actual actions.



    Also, Arafat got a peace prize, so they are kind of incredibly meaningless.

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  • BoredomBoredom Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    People actually care about SNL's criticism? They only did it because there isn't anything they can easily imitate to support their horrible writing.

    I don't care about SnL, I care about the facts that skit brought up though.

    If you don't like the SnL reference, I refer you to Bill Maher's criticism of Obama.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    So I'd sum this up as "daring" by the Peace Prize committee.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2009
    I don't think Bill Maher has an opinion that anyone should care about either

    It's all of those people's jobs to criticize the leaders of the country

    Dude's only been in office for 9 months, you might want to wait for him to actually be around long enough to notice what he's doing after all of Bush's stuff works it's way through the system

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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    This just saddens me, despite all the great efforts of people around the world we give the thing to the guy currently running two wars, thinking about a third (Oh Iran when will you learn), chewing out the guy running one of them for pointing out that unmanned aerial drones are not going to do jack when your enemy lives in caves, and who has generally spent the last 9 months getting a lot of not much done.

    Is there not some Nobel prize you could give him for being a black president? How about the Nobel Adequacy Prize, or the Nobel Not Sucking More Than Expected Prize?

    How about we let him actually do something before we start throwing prizes at him. Although if we end up invading Iran I am going to laugh. How many Nobel Peace Prize winners have started a war within a year of winning?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Movitz wrote: »
    Random journalist dude, better?

    No. Seriously, if you don't know who Matt Drudge is, you've been living under a rock.

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  • Ebz123Ebz123 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Definitely too soon. I like Obama, but he hasn't really done anything yet. His global popularity has more to do with him symbolically than it has to do with his actual actions.



    Also, Arafat got a peace prize, so they are kind of incredibly meaningless.

    And Kissinger. That said, it has gone to definitely deserving people many times over.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Matt Drudge? SNL? Bill Maher?

    It's like the irrelevance olympics.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Definitely too soon. I like Obama, but he hasn't really done anything yet. His global popularity has more to do with him symbolically than it has to do with his actual actions.



    Also, Arafat got a peace prize, so they are kind of incredibly meaningless.

    Then again you are not the most objective person when it comes to Arafat, or palestinians in general.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Movitz wrote: »
    Random journalist dude, better?

    No. Seriously, if you don't know who Matt Drudge is, you've been living under a rock.

    He is a hack yellow journalist.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Movitz wrote: »
    Random journalist dude, better?

    No. Seriously, if you don't know who Matt Drudge is, you've been living under a rock.

    Or not American.

    Basically the only time we have heard of him over here was when he blew Prince Harrys cover.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Movitz wrote: »
    Random journalist dude, better?

    No. Seriously, if you don't know who Matt Drudge is, you've been living under a rock.

    He is a hack yellow journalist.

    Who is able to drive news cycles.

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  • SaigaSaiga Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    SNL was prominent enough to be noted on CNN, among other news networks, the article was titled "The end of Obama's Honeymoon" It's a cultural change, not important to some people, but the impact is still there.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Now I'm curious about Gorbachev, he did some rad stuff. But didn't he also gas-bomb Groznyj a time or two?

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