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My marshmallow Americans, I have harglebargle [POLITICS]

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Bourgeois is pronounced like boosh waaaaah but is spelled like burgerois and it annoys me greatly.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Mysst wrote: »
    run what are your feelings on eminent domain

    Those homeowners should have seen it coming.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    also Quoth I have a very difficult time believing anybody on this forum is part of the Capitalist class

    why shouldn't i make money off the backs of the poor if i'm smart enough to get away with it




    oh god i can't play this game anymore i'm just too tired

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    edited October 2009
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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    its the "poors" quoth

    the "poors" and the "browns"

    but aren't they one in the same?

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    its the "poors" quoth

    the "poors" and the "browns"

    but teefs i am one of the browns

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  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Mysst wrote: »
    run what are your feelings on eminent domain

    I am only ok with it in very limited, regulated form, decided on case by case basis.

    Sometimes rights have to be given up for a society to function, but only as a last resort method.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Whoa wait, you're brown?

    Crap.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    MKR wrote: »
    Whoa wait, you're brown?

    Crap.

    i believe i'm what's known as a beaner

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I may or may not have organized a KKK meeting at your house.

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Like mocha brown?

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  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    cafe con leche pero muy clarito

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    We've secretly replaced replies to Run Cubed with blatant troll posts. Let's watch...

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    edited October 2009
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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I am a big fan of private capital.

    I do think our current economic system is really strange, but that is because I don't really know as much about it as I probably should. Wall street and hedge fund managers are strange and complicated.

    Anarcho-syndicalism has some good ideas but I think adopting it as a whole is just eehh

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  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    No one is saying that is wrong.

    Well i hope not, because if they are thats pretty stupid in my view.

    However as the manager of said labour workforce, you are obligated not to fuck them over.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

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  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I need to study some Marxist Economics. It just seems so counter intuitive and simply not functional.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    In an ideal world, you would strangle those above you with your bootstraps to rise in power.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
    edited October 2009
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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    I need to study some Marxist Economics. It just seems so counter intuitive and simply not functional.

    it runs on similar principles to democracy

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his balls? Goshdang swampass

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    MKR wrote: »
    In an ideal world, you would strangle those above you with your bootstraps to rise in power.

    but i get paid so little that i cannot afford bootstraps!

    i line my soles with newspapers i find on the street to make them last longer

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  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Karl wrote: »

    No one is saying that is wrong.

    Well i hope not, because if they are thats pretty stupid in my view.

    However as the manager of said labour workforce, you are obligated not to fuck them over.

    Of course not. I am not a libertarian. I believe in social capitalism. Free market with strong ethical limitations.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
    edited October 2009
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  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

    Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.

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  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    I'm opposed to private capital :)

    you mean individual capital / human capital? or private ownership?

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] regular
    edited October 2009
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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    Whoa wait, you're brown?

    Crap.

    i believe i'm what's known as a beaner

    I would never have noticed!

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    In an ideal world, you would strangle those above you with your bootstraps to rise in power.

    but i get paid so little that i cannot afford bootstraps!

    i line my soles with newspapers i find on the street to make them last longer

    Shank a dude with a sharpened stick and steal his.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

    Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.

    but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground

    if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine

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  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited October 2009

    I'll have to save this post, right now I am studying Enviromental Econ and what the right amount of pollution is.

    The answer is not none.

    Also, Market Failures explain so much of this world, so sexy.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    MKR wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    In an ideal world, you would strangle those above you with your bootstraps to rise in power.

    but i get paid so little that i cannot afford bootstraps!

    i line my soles with newspapers i find on the street to make them last longer

    Shank a dude with a sharpened stick and steal his.

    but how will i sharpen it

    with my teeth

    that is so unhygenic

    Quoth on
  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

    Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.

    but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground

    if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine

    Ownership comes from the ability to protect an asset.

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    MKR wrote: »
    In an ideal world, you would strangle those above you with your bootstraps to rise in power.

    but i get paid so little that i cannot afford bootstraps!

    i line my soles with newspapers i find on the street to make them last longer

    Shank a dude with a sharpened stick and steal his.

    but how will i sharpen it

    with my teeth

    that is so unhygenic

    My ideal world will still have public parks, and those will have concrete pathways. To ensure fairness to all, of course. And there will be public shankers who can be enlisted to shank a dude if you're too weak, but you're obligated to compensate them later.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Quoth wrote: »
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

    Scarcity of resources and best allocation of skill. They get paid less because there are more people able to do that job. You get paid more because there are less people that can do what you can. Maybe the resource you bring to the table is Capital, and that has it's own value in the economy.

    but again, how did you acquire the capital... is it reasonable that someone who essentially managed to stick a flag in the ground first should get to keep said ground

    if i go to the grocery store and lick a cookie does it become mine

    Ownership comes from the ability to protect an asset.

    so if i lick the cookie and run away with it and the cops don't catch me then it's mine

    Quoth on
  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

    as I created the firm I decide who gets to work in it and who doesn't. I get to decide what I pay them for the labor. the workers are free to decide if they are willing to trade their labor for the I resources I offer them or not.

    Labor is just another recourse that is traded.

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    How is making money off other people's backs a bad thing? I mean it's the what every working economic system ever is build upon.

    I mean, I got a bunch of resources, but alone I am not capable of doing all the labor with it, so I pay a lot of people to do the labor for me.

    I of course pay them less for the labor than I do earn with said labor so that I increase my resources and have my company grow.

    this begs so many questions

    precedent does not equal ethical soundness

    where did you get the resources

    why should they get paid less when they are doing the work that helps the company grow

    why should you get paid more when you are not doing the same amount of work

    as I created the firm I decide who gets to work in it and who doesn't. I get to decide what I pay them for the labor. the workers are free to decide if they are willing to trade their labor for the I resources I offer them or not.

    Labor is just another recourse that is traded.

    you didn't answer any of the questions!

    Quoth on
  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2009
    Yes. That is reasonable. As I said, a person or organization that comes upon new ground first gets to claim it.

    As nowadays all ground and all resources worldwide belonging to someone the only, legal, way to acquire them is to purchase them of the owner.

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