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Stalking Just Got Easier! [Google Latitude]

ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
edited October 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
So, have we gone too far?

Google Latitude

Google Latitude allows you to share your location with friends and view their locations on a map.

Latitude is completely opt-in, so you must enable it before you can start sharing location and can disable it at any time.

With Latitude, you can also:

- Share your location and status updates with the friends you choose
- See on a map where your friends are and what they're up to
- Quickly contact them with text message, instant message, or phone call
- Control how much or how little location info you want to share with whomever you choose.




Now, I know forfeiting your privacy is all the rage with the kids these days, but this seems like it may even be too much for the most avid "I'm currently taking a poop LOL" Twitter users.

I understand they have security features and such, but I just don't get it. I don't get why anyone would possibly want this beyond, perhaps, a parent who has given their child a cell phone.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Google Latitude allows you to share your location with friends
    can disable it at any time.
    Control how much or how little location info you want to share with whomever you choose.
    Chanus wrote:
    Now, I know forfeiting your privacy is all the rage with the kids these days, but this seems like it may even be too much for the most avid "I'm currently taking a poop LOL" Twitter users.

    Yes, it sounds horrifying. The people in 1984 had more freedom and privacy than we do now.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    I'm not saying "ZOMG YOU'RE ON THE GRID" or anything... it just seems like a really stupid idea.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Privacy isn't being killed, it's committing suicide.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    Privacy isn't being killed, it's committing suicide.

    Yeah, this is more the way I see it.

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Could this conceivably get me out of explaining directions to stupid friends? If so, sign me the fuck up.

    dumbshit that wants directions: "Hey I'm lost"

    me: "'Well, I'm here, 'tude it brah"
    *deebaser gets back to whatever*

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    It's letting your friends know where you are. And you have the option to sign up or not, and the option to disable it later if you change your mind. It's basically the 21st Century equivalent of your friends calling you on the phone and asking where you are. With the newly added option of telling them to fuck off and hang up without looking rude and offending them.

    You guys are being drama queens. This is not a privacy issue by any stretch of the imagination.

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    GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Cool idea. Wouldn't work for me. Basically it'd list me in like three places and pretty much nowhere else (home/office, girlfriend's place and the grocery store).

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    iglidanteiglidante Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yeah, I don't move around too much. I'd either be at work, in my apartment, or maybe in the car on an errand.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    All I said was I think it's stupid. You're the one getting all worked up about it. :P

    I feel cell phones are invasive enough, combined with all the shit I get from people for not answering when I don't want to... this just seems like another step in that direction.

    It's absolutely a privacy issue... I think the problem is you think I'm saying it's some sort of governmentally enforced privacy issue or something.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gyral wrote: »
    Cool idea. Wouldn't work for me. Basically it'd list me in like three places and pretty much nowhere else (home/office, girlfriend's place and the grocery store).

    The only logical interpretation here is that either you live at your office, or your girlfriend lives in a grocery store.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Drama is a good word to describe what this will lead to. "Who the fuck told Frank we were meeting here?" "Oh shit, sorry guys, left my Google on."

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Richy wrote: »
    Gyral wrote: »
    Cool idea. Wouldn't work for me. Basically it'd list me in like three places and pretty much nowhere else (home/office, girlfriend's place and the grocery store).

    The only logical interpretation here is that either you live at your office, or your girlfriend lives in a grocery store.

    Produce are people too!

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    GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Richy wrote: »
    Gyral wrote: »
    Cool idea. Wouldn't work for me. Basically it'd list me in like three places and pretty much nowhere else (home/office, girlfriend's place and the grocery store).

    The only logical interpretation here is that either you live at your office, or your girlfriend lives in a grocery store.

    Telecommute/work from home. But the second might also be true. I've never seen someone have such a storage of groceries on hand at any time.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    It's absolutely a privacy issue... I think the problem is you think I'm saying it's some sort of governmentally enforced privacy issue or something.

    No it's not. It becomes a privacy issue if someone collect personal information on you that you do not want to share. You choose to sign up and give your location, and you can choose to stop at any time. No one is collecting any information against your will.

    It would be a privacy issue if Google automatically registered everyone to this thing and made the information public. They're not - they're letting everyone decide if they want to sign up or not, and letting them decide what is shared with whom.

    Like I said, it's as much a privacy issue as your friends calling you on the phone and asking where you are.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    It's absolutely a privacy issue... I think the problem is you think I'm saying it's some sort of governmentally enforced privacy issue or something.

    No it's not. It becomes a privacy issue if someone collect personal information on you that you do not want to share. You choose to sign up and give your location, and you can choose to stop at any time. No one is collecting any information against your will.

    It would be a privacy issue if Google automatically registered everyone to this thing and made the information public. They're not - they're letting everyone decide if they want to sign up or not, and letting them decide what is shared with whom.

    Like I said, it's as much a privacy issue as your friends calling you on the phone and asking where you are.

    You're either just completely misunderstanding what I'm saying or you're willfully misunderstanding what I'm saying for the point of argument.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Richy wrote: »
    You choose to sign up and give your location, and you can choose to stop at any time.

    I think people (I know I can speak for myself) know this; my commentary is based on people out there - in the world, right now - who use tools like this or Facebook, and then turn around and bitch about privacy being dead or some such.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Henroid wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    You choose to sign up and give your location, and you can choose to stop at any time.

    I think people (I know I can speak for myself) know this; my commentary is based on people out there - in the world, right now - who use tools like this or Facebook, and then turn around and bitch about privacy being dead or some such.

    That isn't hypocritical. Freely giving away information about yourself and your private life is different from having to give it.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    It's absolutely a privacy issue... I think the problem is you think I'm saying it's some sort of governmentally enforced privacy issue or something.

    No it's not. It becomes a privacy issue if someone collect personal information on you that you do not want to share. You choose to sign up and give your location, and you can choose to stop at any time. No one is collecting any information against your will.

    It would be a privacy issue if Google automatically registered everyone to this thing and made the information public. They're not - they're letting everyone decide if they want to sign up or not, and letting them decide what is shared with whom.

    Like I said, it's as much a privacy issue as your friends calling you on the phone and asking where you are.

    You're either just completely misunderstanding what I'm saying or you're willfully misunderstanding what I'm saying for the point of argument.

    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

    I'm still not seeing your point, sorry. What's the matter with Google Latitude?

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    You choose to sign up and give your location, and you can choose to stop at any time.

    I think people (I know I can speak for myself) know this; my commentary is based on people out there - in the world, right now - who use tools like this or Facebook, and then turn around and bitch about privacy being dead or some such.

    That isn't hypocritical. Freely giving away information about yourself and your private life is different from having to give it.

    Shouldn't you tell them that, then?

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Boost or Amp'd mobile did something like this on their phones a few years ago, before they went out of business. And XKCD did a comic on it a few months ago, too.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

    I'm still not seeing your point, sorry. What's the matter with Google Latitude?

    Nothing is wrong with Google Latitude, I question the people who would use it.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Boost or Amp'd mobile did something like this on their phones a few years ago, before they went out of business. And XKCD did a comic on it a few months ago, too.

    latitude.png

    I remember that.

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    matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

    I'm still not seeing your point, sorry. What's the matter with Google Latitude?

    Nothing is wrong with Google Latitude, I question the people who would use it.
    The same people who twitter everything, or update their facebook status constantly.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

    I'm still not seeing your point, sorry. What's the matter with Google Latitude?
    Nothing is wrong with Google Latitude, I question the people who would use it.
    The same people who twitter everything, or update their facebook status constantly.

    Precisely. It's not the product's fault these people have no sane understanding of privacy.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

    I'm still not seeing your point, sorry. What's the matter with Google Latitude?
    Nothing is wrong with Google Latitude, I question the people who would use it.
    The same people who twitter everything, or update their facebook status constantly.

    Precisely. It's not the product's fault these people have no sane understanding of privacy.

    But but if I don't share my location with Google Latitude while I update my Twitter feed with pictures from Facebook how will I get more friends, followers, and ePeen?

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Chanus wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    O_o I'm going to go with "completely misunderstanding", then. Why don't you explain to me where you see a privacy issue? Maybe that'll help clarify things.

    It's more of a "What the hell is the matter with kids today?" complaint than an "OMG Google is invading my bedroom!" complaint.

    I'm still not seeing your point, sorry. What's the matter with Google Latitude?
    Nothing is wrong with Google Latitude, I question the people who would use it.
    The same people who twitter everything, or update their facebook status constantly.

    Precisely. It's not the product's fault these people have no sane understanding of privacy.

    But but if I don't share my location with Google Latitude while I update my Twitter feed with pictures from Facebook how will I get more friends, followers, and ePeen?

    l2pNoob :p

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    clsCorwinclsCorwin Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Yea, and I remember plenty of people making cheap versions of a lowjack for their cars using a Boost phone with that feature enabled and sticking the phone under the seat or something. I see that solution is back once again.

    I see no problem with this. I see no problem with people who will use this. I can see people overusing it, but theres no reason to generalize all users into overusers.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited October 2009
    All of my friends can already pretty much figure out where I am. If it's 8-5 on a weekday, I am at work. (Well, normally.) If it's not that time period, I'm probably at home. If I'm not at home, I'm probably somewhere without access to a computer on which I can post my current whereabouts.

    I see this is not much different from those teenagers who are compelled to call all of their friends every five minutes to report their whereabouts.

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    GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited October 2009
    Gyral wrote: »
    Cool idea. Wouldn't work for me. Basically it'd list me in like three places and pretty much nowhere else (home/office, girlfriend's place and the grocery store).
    So, basically... you could use this app to track your movements and let you know how big a no-life loser you actually are...

    Jesus Christ, this is bordering on assisted suicide.

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