so since I'm kinda erasing the ahava bit, for me its
hotran- newbie who throws in decisive vote despite having reason
Samurai- joins bw late and didn't have Law as a buddy.
Sidenote: It wouldn't surprise me if this post got Savant on the baddie hit list..That is if they have a list of targets.
If I had to choose two people to be suspect of, it would be enlightened and samurai. Enlightened for his (what struck me as odd) enthusiasm to get rid of Toxic. Samurai...just because hes samurai..basically and the jumping on board quickly.
edit: Also Samurai has the tenuous connection of being voted by Law.... A connection is still a connection...even if not necessarily indicative.
I did wait a bit to see where the wagon was going. Also, I was playing Uncharted 2 and it's hard to read forums and headshoot Russians at the same time.
so since I'm kinda erasing the ahava bit, for me its
hotran- newbie who throws in decisive vote despite having reason
Samurai- joins bw late and didn't have Law as a buddy.
Sidenote: It wouldn't surprise me if this post got Savant on the baddie hit list..That is if they have a list of targets.
no. savant is a very smart player, capable of making excellent deductions from available data.
and shalmelo: is it 'well-known'? thats good then i guess... the key is to look at whoever i say is trustworthy, they are probably mafia. anyone i say is mafia is probably vanilla or a village special. kime can attest to its effectiveness.
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warbanWho the Hoof do you think we are?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
I just relised something. Simonwolf was...
Logos Rimandas, Deathwalker and member of the ACMW - killed day one
What the hell is a deathwalker. I expect it was hes personal power. Does that mean we have players who can talk to the dead?
I'm not convinced that the ACMW are the 'mafia'. The only thing we have to make us think that they are bad is some fluff in the prologue from a 'firm man with a quivering moustache'.
What if we just have two factions, one a bunch of commoners, one the aristocracy, who some other group are trying to turn against each other? This other group are the ones that are trying to take down the ship? Perhaps the game goes more like this:
1) We need to take down the baddies who are trying to take down the ship
2) If we're ACMW, or aristocracy, when the game is over, great if we outnumber the other, but the important thing is to save the ship
Think of it like WW2. The West weren't really fans of Russia, but were willing to work with them to get rid of the Nazis. Once the Nazis were defeated it was an almighty free for all and everyone was back at eachother's throats.
I really think this is more than 'the village are the aristocracy and the mafia are ACMW'.
This is a big, main, phalla. It is also a Burnage phalla. This means things are not as they seem!!
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GumpyThere is alwaysa greater powerRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
WOAH NELLY
Why was I, to put a fine and sophisticated point, tentacle raped last night
RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
Yes Micro, but you keep quiet about it and watch for those who work really hard to perpetuate the myth that this is just a village vs mafia game and then vote them out and expose such treachery for all to see.
Now we have to suffer through protestations that class warfare is the only true route to victory while our sinister foes gleefully destroy this ship.
What do you think happens, gentlemen, when this ship is damaged beyond repair?
One of two things. Either we crash and die or we drift at the mercy of the fickle winds. And with the strange weather we have had lately, I am not so certain that that is the preferable choice.
Any man who knowingly damages this vessel puts every man aboard at risk.
warbanWho the Hoof do you think we are?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
Ok so I have been (by hand) data mining the posts in this thread. Lists are mostly complete but a few names might not really fall into the groups below.
Why I choose to group banter and votes and also check who was late to the party was because I expect some evils will be trying to hide under the radar at this point. Exactly how this info can be interpreted though would be up for debate.
early Votes and banter
2. Arivia
10. Erich Zahn
15. 3clipse
18. enlightenedbum
24. Ringo
27. Infidel
35. simonwolf -
47. Warban
Late votes and banter
1. jdarksun
3. Delmain
6. ShadowThomas
11. hotran
13. samurai6966
20. Mr. Defecation
23. FunkyWaltDogg
30. Daius
44. That Dave Fella
46. Gumpy
Some of the names in group two are really trying to fly under the radar. I would recommend that the village Focus on these targets if they don't really have anything else to go with.
Without knowning if simonwolf really was evil or if he was just one of several evils means you could interp this data with who voted for what as well.
I see nothing wrong with banter. For my spreadsheet though. Grouping general conversation under banter was a distinguishable word.
Other post flags were.
Pointless Makes small talk or just posts something minor Banter Quotes another player, Making small talk or something minor Advice Gives another player game or vote advice Vote talk Talks about vote theories, attempts to offer discussion Attack Brings another player into question on view or vote pattern Ride Player doesn't add much but joins the largest vote train Taunt Player taunts another player or faction or mafia.
I see nothing wrong with banter. For my spreadsheet though. Grouping general conversation under banter was a distinguishable word.
Other post flags were.
Pointless Makes small talk or just posts something minor Banter Quotes another player, Making small talk or something minor Advice Gives another player game or vote advice Vote talk Talks about vote theories, attempts to offer discussion Attack Brings another player into question on view or vote pattern Ride Player doesn't add much but joins the largest vote train Taunt Player taunts another player or faction or mafia.
No wonder people call RPGs math, I feel like I should have just gained a press turn.
As much as it pains me to agree with Psolms even in this, I think there is some evidence that the ACMW, while of questionable loyalties, is not the sole aggressor we must fear. Why, just look at the horrible trauma suffered by Gumpy and Loser. I don't know that I'd rather not drown than be assaulted so. I'm going to vote for samurai, as I think that regardless of his allegiance, it may be for the good mental health of us all.
Also, I realize the bandwagoning may have been poor form as well. Forgive my novice-hood, and inability to discern the preferred first-day voting procedures.
I feel like these days the mafias I have seen recently have moved beyond the "kill the spreadsheeter on Day 1" strategy and have instead moved towards the strategy of leaving the spreadsheeter alive so that when he is still alive as the game goes on people think he's mafia because obviously the mafia would want to kill the spreadsheeter.
I really think this is more than 'the village are the aristocracy and the mafia are ACMW'.
I think this hits the nail right on the head. There's no way that there are only two main super groups working here. The narrations have already referenced three with the aristocracy, commoner class, and ACMW.
A safe assumption would be that all three have outlast and outnumber conditions in order to win (or at least as an objective, baddies assumingly also having make the ship go kaboom); so we need to figure out which group, if it's even any of them that are listed, wants to bring down our fine craft.
That being said, hopefully we do learn something from a death conviction of 3clipse to get us started on the correct path ... or at least maybe the narration tonight will get us a bit closer to figuring out faction nonsense.
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Toxic ToysAre you really taking my advice?Really?Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
Looking over the day one votes, there was a nice string of Ebfan votes. That last person on that wagon, 3clipse
What does that tell us? Nothing really.
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TehSlothHit Or MissI Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered Userregular
I really think this is more than 'the village are the aristocracy and the mafia are ACMW'.
I think this hits the nail right on the head. There's no way that there are only two main super groups working here. The narrations have already referenced three with the aristocracy, commoner class, and ACMW.
A safe assumption would be that all three have outlast and outnumber conditions in order to win (or at least as an objective, baddies assumingly also having make the ship go kaboom); so we need to figure out which group, if it's even any of them that are listed, wants to bring down our fine craft.
That being said, hopefully we do learn something from a death conviction of 3clipse to get us started on the correct path ... or at least maybe the narration tonight will get us a bit closer to figuring out faction nonsense.
Well, just to clear things up, I'm fairly certain commoner class and ACMW are one in the same.
Well, it's still a tough call. I figure that I better get at least a bit of a vote in so that I'm not "flying under the radar" and get my jewel-less self killed for reals.
3clipse really seems like the only vote worth casting. He's got rather a lead thus far, and unless there's really a solid other candidate put forward (tough thing to do after only one day) I feel like we will get information.
As for this notion that the ACMW isn't mafia, couldn't there be more than one mafia group? I mean, that would be pretty main-worthy right?
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I'm pretty sure she didn't realize that Toxic was playing at first.
Simple answers to simple questions!
The lack of scientific basis in this idea makes me weep.
hotran- newbie who throws in decisive vote despite having reason
Samurai- joins bw late and didn't have Law as a buddy.
Sidenote: It wouldn't surprise me if this post got Savant on the baddie hit list..That is if they have a list of targets.
I did wait a bit to see where the wagon was going. Also, I was playing Uncharted 2 and it's hard to read forums and headshoot Russians at the same time.
no. savant is a very smart player, capable of making excellent deductions from available data.
and shalmelo: is it 'well-known'? thats good then i guess... the key is to look at whoever i say is trustworthy, they are probably mafia. anyone i say is mafia is probably vanilla or a village special. kime can attest to its effectiveness.
Logos Rimandas, Deathwalker and member of the ACMW - killed day one
What the hell is a deathwalker. I expect it was hes personal power. Does that mean we have players who can talk to the dead?
I'm not convinced that the ACMW are the 'mafia'. The only thing we have to make us think that they are bad is some fluff in the prologue from a 'firm man with a quivering moustache'.
What if we just have two factions, one a bunch of commoners, one the aristocracy, who some other group are trying to turn against each other? This other group are the ones that are trying to take down the ship? Perhaps the game goes more like this:
1) We need to take down the baddies who are trying to take down the ship
2) If we're ACMW, or aristocracy, when the game is over, great if we outnumber the other, but the important thing is to save the ship
Think of it like WW2. The West weren't really fans of Russia, but were willing to work with them to get rid of the Nazis. Once the Nazis were defeated it was an almighty free for all and everyone was back at eachother's throats.
I really think this is more than 'the village are the aristocracy and the mafia are ACMW'.
This is a big, main, phalla. It is also a Burnage phalla. This means things are not as they seem!!
Why was I, to put a fine and sophisticated point, tentacle raped last night
Who here has tentacles
I will fight you
Now we have to suffer through protestations that class warfare is the only true route to victory while our sinister foes gleefully destroy this ship.
What do you think happens, gentlemen, when this ship is damaged beyond repair?
One of two things. Either we crash and die or we drift at the mercy of the fickle winds. And with the strange weather we have had lately, I am not so certain that that is the preferable choice.
Any man who knowingly damages this vessel puts every man aboard at risk.
Why I choose to group banter and votes and also check who was late to the party was because I expect some evils will be trying to hide under the radar at this point. Exactly how this info can be interpreted though would be up for debate.
Early banter no vote
4. Ebfan
7. TehSloth
12. kime
17. JustPlainPavek
22. Speed Racer
25. TheLawinator
28. Adventfalls
31. oaklore
50. Fatal3rror
early votes no banter
8. LoserForHireX
9. Toxic Toys
14. Micro
19. Rawkking Goodguy
26. shalmelo
29. Zandracon
33. WilDPanthA05
34. Varcayn
39. Savant
45. Gnersh
48. Pablo_price
49. Dogbone33/ Lonely
early Votes and banter
2. Arivia
10. Erich Zahn
15. 3clipse
18. enlightenedbum
24. Ringo
27. Infidel
35. simonwolf -
47. Warban
Late votes and banter
1. jdarksun
3. Delmain
6. ShadowThomas
11. hotran
13. samurai6966
20. Mr. Defecation
23. FunkyWaltDogg
30. Daius
44. That Dave Fella
46. Gumpy
Some of the names in group two are really trying to fly under the radar. I would recommend that the village Focus on these targets if they don't really have anything else to go with.
Without knowning if simonwolf really was evil or if he was just one of several evils means you could interp this data with who voted for what as well.
We were conversing.
I am conversing real-hardcore-like with your spleen.
I see nothing wrong with banter. For my spreadsheet though. Grouping general conversation under banter was a distinguishable word.
Other post flags were.
Pointless Makes small talk or just posts something minor
Banter Quotes another player, Making small talk or something minor
Advice Gives another player game or vote advice
Vote talk Talks about vote theories, attempts to offer discussion
Attack Brings another player into question on view or vote pattern
Ride Player doesn't add much but joins the largest vote train
Taunt Player taunts another player or faction or mafia.
No wonder people call RPGs math, I feel like I should have just gained a press turn.
People who go against normal thought and play like it's their last day.
You think you're secure and your probably wasting plenty of deadly opportunities
I take it you have some experience with this, my good man.
No, I know phalla. I hold my breath from "Votes Close" to "Tonight's Deaths." I skip the narrations and jump right to the deaths then I back track.
You could say that. OB/GYNs deal with the raging hormones every now and then. :winky:
Steam
Who knew that the BARS OF STEEL were fancy? Did a doctor check those eyes?
Steam
Also, I realize the bandwagoning may have been poor form as well. Forgive my novice-hood, and inability to discern the preferred first-day voting procedures.
I think this hits the nail right on the head. There's no way that there are only two main super groups working here. The narrations have already referenced three with the aristocracy, commoner class, and ACMW.
A safe assumption would be that all three have outlast and outnumber conditions in order to win (or at least as an objective, baddies assumingly also having make the ship go kaboom); so we need to figure out which group, if it's even any of them that are listed, wants to bring down our fine craft.
That being said, hopefully we do learn something from a death conviction of 3clipse to get us started on the correct path ... or at least maybe the narration tonight will get us a bit closer to figuring out faction nonsense.
What does that tell us? Nothing really.
Well, just to clear things up, I'm fairly certain commoner class and ACMW are one in the same.
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3clipse really seems like the only vote worth casting. He's got rather a lead thus far, and unless there's really a solid other candidate put forward (tough thing to do after only one day) I feel like we will get information.
As for this notion that the ACMW isn't mafia, couldn't there be more than one mafia group? I mean, that would be pretty main-worthy right?
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