See, that's my problem. I have a hard time accepting that the characters(aside from being mentally unstable) would appear to enjoy life in a land that tries to kill them at every turn.
It's about what's the norm for the world this is taking place in. If having monsters try to cut you is ubiquitous then to that's just another fact of life for the people inhabiting that place. We can look historically to the rate of death during various times throughout civilization. It was hard, but that doesn't mean people failed to find joy.
Besides, the ability to come back to life takes the edge off death.
90% of "RP'd" characters grew up abused, mysterious past, parents are now dead, and the character has an ominous scar over their eye/cheek.
The more you know!
(I think they're seeking some in-game sympathy... like... "Oh man, I'm so sorry that your fake parents died... that must be so hard for you...")
Actually, my Troll Mage was abused by her first teacher who was promptly blacklisted, her parents are still together, alive, and healthy, and the scars on her back from her abusive teacher, which is covered by her robe anyway and never comes up!
I like bringing up the parent thing though. Not only are they alive, they're active adventurers. My Shaman is my Mages father, for example.
I should post her backstory. It weaves in and out of Warcraft lore a bit (which I regret, but ah well. Cliches are cliche because they used to be good, after all), but I'm fairly proud of it.
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SenshiBALLING OUT OF CONTROLWavefrontRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
I like to name my characters with care and make them look like something that won't hurt my eyes
other than that, who cares
you could even say that I RP a dick, because I'm a dick.
Good for you.
But this is kind of like posting in the DK thread that you don't play a DK, but your Warrior is kind of a Knight who brings Death so that counts right?
90% of "RP'd" characters grew up abused, mysterious past, parents are now dead, and the character has an ominous scar over their eye/cheek.
The more you know!
(I think they're seeking some in-game sympathy... like... "Oh man, I'm so sorry that your fake parents died... that must be so hard for you...")
Something that often crops up in that percentage:
"No, see, I'm roleplaying a person that's a complete and utter shithead so you should be okay when I'm a total dickface to you.
Also, I am a cock in real life."
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited November 2009
I roleplayed a character that was a dickwad to people for the most part, once upon a time. Outside the friends I made then, I only managed to meet very few people willing to play along. Everyone else thought I was trolling. The irony is that I eventually did start showing up just to troll people who were RP'ing tropes. I'm a bad person. More at 11.
90% of "RP'd" characters grew up abused, mysterious past, parents are now dead, and the character has an ominous scar over their eye/cheek.
The more you know!
(I think they're seeking some in-game sympathy... like... "Oh man, I'm so sorry that your fake parents died... that must be so hard for you...")
Something that often crops up in that percentage:
"No, see, I'm roleplaying a person that's a complete and utter shithead so you should be okay when I'm a total dickface to you.
Also, I am a cock in real life."
This shit annoyed the hell out of me. It was like "is anyone really such a horse's ass?" Obviously not, and thus, not only are you a douche, you're also an uninteresting RPer.
Good for you.
But this is kind of like posting in the DK thread that you don't play a DK, but your Warrior is kind of a Knight who brings Death so that counts right?
Actually, no. This is sort of like posting "I do 10-mans" in the raiding thread.
Good for you.
But this is kind of like posting in the DK thread that you don't play a DK, but your Warrior is kind of a Knight who brings Death so that counts right?
Actually, no. This is sort of like posting "I do 10-mans" in the raiding thread.
Good try, though.
"You could say I RP a dick because I am a dick"?
"I RP a dude who rolls on items whose names are in purple because they are superior to his other one I am wearing" isn't really RP.
EDIT: I also like how this same topic on SA has about 60% less "I RP a guy who just plays the game".
champions online's official forums are so openly hostile towards RPers
that the very vocal anti-RP contingent used the term "RPists" to refer to them
which led to "RPist" being a banned term from the forums and calling someone an RPist gets you an infraction there
seriously
While I admit that the RP community has its fair share of creeps (ok, far, far, far more than its fair share), vocal anti-RPers just strike me as sad. It just seems like some serious denial.
Edit: I tried to RP in WoW but I couldn't get into the world Blizzard presented.
I have open contempt for the Warcraft world, but I still find it easier to RP in than say, Lord of the Rings: Online, which is based off of some of my favourite fiction. Making a backstory and playing it out in that game seems like fanction. Whereas any idiot can write something better than Warcraft's background.
Those people with their cyborg elves and immortal vampire wizards? Not actually more retarded than official Blizzard characters. Who linked to that magical shaman messiah-orc in that chat thread a while back?
From my experience, roleplayers tend to fall in one of two categories: The hardcore crowd, mostly found on UO freeshards, whose "RP is mightier than thine" and the softcore crowd found on WoW RP servers who have no real clue what roleplaying means but chose that server because they thought the community there would be better (It isn't.).
I've tried both forms and really can't stand either. Most hardcore RPers are arrogant, narcisstic egocentrics
who bash everyone that doesn't live up to their standards of roleplaying (Which more often than not includes "playing rape scenes" o_O ). Softcore RPers simply aren't sensible enough to just play along and their roleplaying is often overridden by gameplay mechanics.
I don't really think "true" roleplaying is possible in an MMO.
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My penis is like a toddler. A toddler—who is a perfectly normal size for his age—on a long road trip to what he thinks is Disney World. My penis is excited because he hasn’t been to Disney World in a long, long time, but remembers a time when he used to go every day. So now the penis toddler is constantly fidgeting, whining “Are we there yet? Are we there yet? How about now? Now? How about... now?”
And Disney World is nowhere in sight.
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SenshiBALLING OUT OF CONTROLWavefrontRegistered Userregular
Good for you.
But this is kind of like posting in the DK thread that you don't play a DK, but your Warrior is kind of a Knight who brings Death so that counts right?
Actually, no. This is sort of like posting "I do 10-mans" in the raiding thread.
Good try, though.
"You could say I RP a dick because I am a dick"?
"I RP a dude who rolls on items whose names are in purple because they are superior to his other one I am wearing" isn't really RP.
EDIT: I also like how this same topic on SA has about 60% less "I RP a guy who just plays the game".
I answered the first question asked in the OP. I am technically contributing. Your bitch post, however, is not a meaningful contribution.
Here, I'll even take it a step further--I settle for letting my characters' names and looks befit their class, and I even pick professions that could make sense for a character of that class. The reason I don't go all-out thee-and-thou is because a) WoW is horribly suited for it and b) the Warcraft lore is already bad enough without my half-assed fan fiction.
I'm more prone to act the character in a singleplayer game, because then I don't have to deal with other people who're RPing.
Well it's been said already. Short of extensive use of imagination, MMO worlds leave something to be desired with regard to the depth one would expect to make a convincing story develop. Yeah you can RP some kind of fantasy character in WoW and the like, but everyone is on the same vague path (determined by mechanics, not story) travelling around the world and doing (the same) good deeds.
Characters are rarely unique in appearance due to a limited amount of (useful) loot available for each character type, which really kills interest in actually explaining why your character might look/dress a certain way, and thus developing a personality (CoX and Champions being notable exceptions). Though I don't actually RP in CO, I do put some thought into a simple theme and backstory for my characters when I am creating them, precisely because I can make them look unique. So really it's the difference between a character and just an avatar.
I refuse to roll on anything but RP or RP-PVP servers. I dont' RP, but I can't stand the names that are allowed on non-RP servers. Sure you get the rogues with like "Stabsxx" or deathknights with shit names like "Unholyguysface" but that is nothing compared to the shit you see in your first 20m on a regular server.
It actually bothers me, seeing the bullshit names people name their characters on those servers. I don't pretend that I can't be immersed in the gameworld, because that's not it. You're characters name is the first impression I get of you, and if it's a fucking retarded name, well guess what I think of you. Which means I'm not going to group with you. Therefore, on regular servers, I can not join groups, because everyone is stupid. Yes I know I'm judging a book by it's cover, and I'm sure there are some really good players with names like "Hordesux", but if I pick up a book, and it's title is "This book fucking sucks" I'm probably going to look for another book. And regular servers seem to have more of that book, than any other.
That's why I enjoy RP servers. Because blizzard actually attempts to somewhat enforce their naming policies on those servers. Where it seems on regular servers, anything goes. And when I see someone RPing I don't really care. Sometimes I play along, most times I don't.
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VariableMouth CongressStroke Me Lady FameRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
on rp servers you are also allowed to report the names. doesn't always mean anything but it's satisfying.
I also can't comprehend how someone could pour the necessary man hours into leveling a character with a fucking stupid name.
citizen059hello my name is citizenI'm from the InternetRegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
On my server in AC we had a player named Shtstain.
It was a good three or four years before the admins caught on and did something about it, and of course the "community" rallied to his defense because OMG HE'S HAD THE NAME FOR SO LONG ITS NOT FAIR.
champions online's official forums are so openly hostile towards RPers
that the very vocal anti-RP contingent used the term "RPists" to refer to them
which led to "RPist" being a banned term from the forums and calling someone an RPist gets you an infraction there
seriously
To their credit, RPist is sorta funny kinda sorta but not really.
I hate communities that bash RP'ers though. Typically, RP'ers have their own server or place to talk aside from everyone else in the game. I've met very few people who RP to strangers, which on the one hand is sorta commendable but on the other it invites a basher to open their mouth. Though, if a basher is on an RP server, they're in the wrong place.
I remember on one of the WoW RP servers the amount of people who RP actually outnumbered though who don't, and those who don't were heckled off the server. It was crazy bizarro land.
Which is the opposite of the CO forums, where you have Krunch(sp) rp'ing his horrible speech all over the forums. ((Also annoying is the use of ooc notifiers when using zone chat.)) It's zone chat, of course it's ooc.
champions online's official forums are so openly hostile towards RPers
that the very vocal anti-RP contingent used the term "RPists" to refer to them
which led to "RPist" being a banned term from the forums and calling someone an RPist gets you an infraction there
seriously
The small contingent of SA Goons and other online flotsam responsible for trolling the CO forums trying to goad roleplayers and furries into providing them with amusement have, predictably, either been banned or floated off to the next new MMO.
Since then, the CO forums have been a lot less hostile towards RPers and other folks normally targeted for harassment by folks desperate for attention.
((What do you mean? I thought all public messages are IC and people were just playing characters who were talking about shit like football.))
((Nah I'm just screaming as loud as I can so that people in Orgrimmar, Dalaran, Undercity, and even Stormwind if they're doing events/PVP can hear me))
((What do you mean? I thought all public messages are IC and people were just playing characters who were talking about shit like football.))
((Nah I'm just screaming as loud as I can so that people in Orgrimmar, Dalaran, Undercity, and even Stormwind if they're doing events/PVP can hear me))
to be fair, NPC shouts have to be assumed to be zone-wide. So King Rockface mcChinpants shouting about deathknights can be heard all over stormwind and YOU CAN TOO(tm)
I really REALLY love my death knight...here is GPIA7R's thing, blatantly stolen and altered for my death knight.
Name - Meldrum Axelrot (formerly Meldrum Axlefizz)
Age - Young (for a gnome)
Race - Gnome (Leper gnome)
Class - Deathknight, formerly tinker
Size - Gnome
Gender - Male
Height - 3-feet
Weight - 75 lbs
Eyes - Unholy
Hair - Brown
Skin - Green
Appearance - Average for a gnome, if you discount the green skin and glowing blue eyes, along with the slight necrosis...
Diety - None
Alignment - Chaotic good
Profession - Alchemist
Sub Skill - Medic, can cook a mean stew if given a bunsen burner...or flamethrower
Affiliations - Gnomeregan
Langauges - Gnomish, common, Gutterspeak
Occupation - Alchemist, 'pest control'
Personality - Sarcastic and slightly deranged as well as VERY impulsive, what with being undead.
Background - Meldrum came from a long line of Gnomish alchemists. His family held several patents, especially in the realm of theoretical 'solvents'. Meldrum was in the process of developing a new 'solvent' when Gnomeregan was attacked by troggs, and summarily flooded with radiation. Luckily, the chemical fumes that Meldrum was constantly surrounded by in his daily life had already partially addled his brain, so when the radiation sickness took hold, the only thing to suffer was his body. Initially content to stay in the poisoned city and develop new acids- er, 'solvents'- Meldrum Axelfizz became quickly fed up with the constant trogg attacks on his laboratory. He packed up his chemicals and decided it was time to head to Ironforge with the rest of the gnomes. Unfortunately, thanks to the 'reputation' the other (more crazed) leper gnomes had garnered, as well as the lingering cloud of poisonous radiation emanating from his body, Meldrum was denied entry. Furious at both his treatment and the other gnome's apparent lack of progress in neutralizing the radiation, he stormed determined to "Fix my own damn self!".
His travels led him to the Undercity, where he learned much from Grand Apothecary Putress, until Putress decided that Meldrum would make a good 'test subject', and locked the gnome in a cage for 'further experiments'. Luckily, Meldrum always carried some 'solvent' around with him, and was able to melt the bars (read: whole cage) and escape. Fleeing the Undercity, Meldrum made his way to the plaguelands JUST as Acherus descended upon them. Set upon by a legion of scourge ghouls, Meldrum managed to stave them all off with his "Extra-Special Zombie Solvent". Impressed by the gnome's tenacity, the Lich King decided to 'recruit' him into service to assist Professor Putricide. Once Meldrum helped to concoct a new choking gas, the Lich King decided he had outlived his usefulness and ordered him to assist with the assault on Light's Hope, along with other newly risen Death Knights.
Thankfully, Meldrum was able to break free of the Lich King's control. In addition, passing through death and back also seemed to have given Meldrum the ability to control and channel his leprous radiation through his mastery of the unholy energy that had reanimated him. This allowed a happy Meldrum to return to his people, although he decided to alter his surname to reflect recent changes in his lifestyle.
Axelrot now seeks to give the Lich King his comeuppance, help cure the leper gnomes in Gnomeregan, and to retake his position as one of the prominent Alchemists of the Alliance.
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Then you are actually RP'ing. And didn't know it.
Unless you did.
in which case
doin it rite
It's about what's the norm for the world this is taking place in. If having monsters try to cut you is ubiquitous then to that's just another fact of life for the people inhabiting that place. We can look historically to the rate of death during various times throughout civilization. It was hard, but that doesn't mean people failed to find joy.
Besides, the ability to come back to life takes the edge off death.
My Stats page shows that my kill limit must be an imaginary number.
Actually, my Troll Mage was abused by her first teacher who was promptly blacklisted, her parents are still together, alive, and healthy, and the scars on her back from her abusive teacher, which is covered by her robe anyway and never comes up!
I like bringing up the parent thing though. Not only are they alive, they're active adventurers. My Shaman is my Mages father, for example.
I should post her backstory. It weaves in and out of Warcraft lore a bit (which I regret, but ah well. Cliches are cliche because they used to be good, after all), but I'm fairly proud of it.
other than that, who cares
you could even say that I RP a dick, because I'm a dick.
But this is kind of like posting in the DK thread that you don't play a DK, but your Warrior is kind of a Knight who brings Death so that counts right?
Something that often crops up in that percentage:
"No, see, I'm roleplaying a person that's a complete and utter shithead so you should be okay when I'm a total dickface to you.
Also, I am a cock in real life."
This shit annoyed the hell out of me. It was like "is anyone really such a horse's ass?" Obviously not, and thus, not only are you a douche, you're also an uninteresting RPer.
that the very vocal anti-RP contingent used the term "RPists" to refer to them
which led to "RPist" being a banned term from the forums and calling someone an RPist gets you an infraction there
seriously
Edit: I tried to RP in WoW but I couldn't get into the world Blizzard presented.
Good try, though.
Press your face against your monitor.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
"You could say I RP a dick because I am a dick"?
"I RP a dude who rolls on items whose names are in purple because they are superior to his other one I am wearing" isn't really RP.
EDIT: I also like how this same topic on SA has about 60% less "I RP a guy who just plays the game".
While I admit that the RP community has its fair share of creeps (ok, far, far, far more than its fair share), vocal anti-RPers just strike me as sad. It just seems like some serious denial.
I have open contempt for the Warcraft world, but I still find it easier to RP in than say, Lord of the Rings: Online, which is based off of some of my favourite fiction. Making a backstory and playing it out in that game seems like fanction. Whereas any idiot can write something better than Warcraft's background.
Those people with their cyborg elves and immortal vampire wizards? Not actually more retarded than official Blizzard characters. Who linked to that magical shaman messiah-orc in that chat thread a while back?
I've tried both forms and really can't stand either. Most hardcore RPers are arrogant, narcisstic egocentrics
who bash everyone that doesn't live up to their standards of roleplaying (Which more often than not includes "playing rape scenes" o_O ). Softcore RPers simply aren't sensible enough to just play along and their roleplaying is often overridden by gameplay mechanics.
I don't really think "true" roleplaying is possible in an MMO.
And Disney World is nowhere in sight.
I answered the first question asked in the OP. I am technically contributing. Your bitch post, however, is not a meaningful contribution.
Here, I'll even take it a step further--I settle for letting my characters' names and looks befit their class, and I even pick professions that could make sense for a character of that class. The reason I don't go all-out thee-and-thou is because a) WoW is horribly suited for it and b) the Warcraft lore is already bad enough without my half-assed fan fiction.
I'm more prone to act the character in a singleplayer game, because then I don't have to deal with other people who're RPing.
Characters are rarely unique in appearance due to a limited amount of (useful) loot available for each character type, which really kills interest in actually explaining why your character might look/dress a certain way, and thus developing a personality (CoX and Champions being notable exceptions). Though I don't actually RP in CO, I do put some thought into a simple theme and backstory for my characters when I am creating them, precisely because I can make them look unique. So really it's the difference between a character and just an avatar.
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It actually bothers me, seeing the bullshit names people name their characters on those servers. I don't pretend that I can't be immersed in the gameworld, because that's not it. You're characters name is the first impression I get of you, and if it's a fucking retarded name, well guess what I think of you. Which means I'm not going to group with you. Therefore, on regular servers, I can not join groups, because everyone is stupid. Yes I know I'm judging a book by it's cover, and I'm sure there are some really good players with names like "Hordesux", but if I pick up a book, and it's title is "This book fucking sucks" I'm probably going to look for another book. And regular servers seem to have more of that book, than any other.
That's why I enjoy RP servers. Because blizzard actually attempts to somewhat enforce their naming policies on those servers. Where it seems on regular servers, anything goes. And when I see someone RPing I don't really care. Sometimes I play along, most times I don't.
I also can't comprehend how someone could pour the necessary man hours into leveling a character with a fucking stupid name.
It was a good three or four years before the admins caught on and did something about it, and of course the "community" rallied to his defense because OMG HE'S HAD THE NAME FOR SO LONG ITS NOT FAIR.
Critical Failures - Havenhold Campaign • August St. Cloud (Human Ranger)
To their credit, RPist is sorta funny kinda sorta but not really.
I hate communities that bash RP'ers though. Typically, RP'ers have their own server or place to talk aside from everyone else in the game. I've met very few people who RP to strangers, which on the one hand is sorta commendable but on the other it invites a basher to open their mouth. Though, if a basher is on an RP server, they're in the wrong place.
I remember on one of the WoW RP servers the amount of people who RP actually outnumbered though who don't, and those who don't were heckled off the server. It was crazy bizarro land.
The small contingent of SA Goons and other online flotsam responsible for trolling the CO forums trying to goad roleplayers and furries into providing them with amusement have, predictably, either been banned or floated off to the next new MMO.
Since then, the CO forums have been a lot less hostile towards RPers and other folks normally targeted for harassment by folks desperate for attention.
((Nah I'm just screaming as loud as I can so that people in Orgrimmar, Dalaran, Undercity, and even Stormwind if they're doing events/PVP can hear me))
to be fair, NPC shouts have to be assumed to be zone-wide. So King Rockface mcChinpants shouting about deathknights can be heard all over stormwind and YOU CAN TOO(tm)
Age - Young (for a gnome)
Race - Gnome (Leper gnome)
Class - Deathknight, formerly tinker
Size - Gnome
Gender - Male
Height - 3-feet
Weight - 75 lbs
Eyes - Unholy
Hair - Brown
Skin - Green
Appearance - Average for a gnome, if you discount the green skin and glowing blue eyes, along with the slight necrosis...
Diety - None
Alignment - Chaotic good
Profession - Alchemist
Sub Skill - Medic, can cook a mean stew if given a bunsen burner...or flamethrower
Affiliations - Gnomeregan
Langauges - Gnomish, common, Gutterspeak
Occupation - Alchemist, 'pest control'
Personality - Sarcastic and slightly deranged as well as VERY impulsive, what with being undead.
Background - Meldrum came from a long line of Gnomish alchemists. His family held several patents, especially in the realm of theoretical 'solvents'. Meldrum was in the process of developing a new 'solvent' when Gnomeregan was attacked by troggs, and summarily flooded with radiation. Luckily, the chemical fumes that Meldrum was constantly surrounded by in his daily life had already partially addled his brain, so when the radiation sickness took hold, the only thing to suffer was his body. Initially content to stay in the poisoned city and develop new acids- er, 'solvents'- Meldrum Axelfizz became quickly fed up with the constant trogg attacks on his laboratory. He packed up his chemicals and decided it was time to head to Ironforge with the rest of the gnomes. Unfortunately, thanks to the 'reputation' the other (more crazed) leper gnomes had garnered, as well as the lingering cloud of poisonous radiation emanating from his body, Meldrum was denied entry. Furious at both his treatment and the other gnome's apparent lack of progress in neutralizing the radiation, he stormed determined to "Fix my own damn self!".
His travels led him to the Undercity, where he learned much from Grand Apothecary Putress, until Putress decided that Meldrum would make a good 'test subject', and locked the gnome in a cage for 'further experiments'. Luckily, Meldrum always carried some 'solvent' around with him, and was able to melt the bars (read: whole cage) and escape. Fleeing the Undercity, Meldrum made his way to the plaguelands JUST as Acherus descended upon them. Set upon by a legion of scourge ghouls, Meldrum managed to stave them all off with his "Extra-Special Zombie Solvent". Impressed by the gnome's tenacity, the Lich King decided to 'recruit' him into service to assist Professor Putricide. Once Meldrum helped to concoct a new choking gas, the Lich King decided he had outlived his usefulness and ordered him to assist with the assault on Light's Hope, along with other newly risen Death Knights.
Thankfully, Meldrum was able to break free of the Lich King's control. In addition, passing through death and back also seemed to have given Meldrum the ability to control and channel his leprous radiation through his mastery of the unholy energy that had reanimated him. This allowed a happy Meldrum to return to his people, although he decided to alter his surname to reflect recent changes in his lifestyle.
Axelrot now seeks to give the Lich King his comeuppance, help cure the leper gnomes in Gnomeregan, and to retake his position as one of the prominent Alchemists of the Alliance.
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