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[miniphalla] PhallaKart: Mini Circuit - Tryclyde obtains the Mini Cup

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Oh yeah, why did I assume we had neither seer nor vig? Seems I had a sip of the crazysauce. Well, let's hope for the best then.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Well, items CAN act as vigs, but you aren't guaranteed an elimination item every day.
    No, I'm reasonably sure there's a true vig.

    For one thing, in order for Inf to have run the numbers on kill balance, he would have needed to know how many kills he's got per day. He'd need to calculate the Expected Value from each item table (probably a few different kinds, if not necessarily individually tailored tables) for eliminations (red shells and bombs, shade slightly down due to defensive item potential). It's *possible* he did it this way, but given that it's a reasonable scenario that mafia were RNG'd from all roles and could potentially have had the heavy kill tables all in the mafia's hands, in this scenario the village pretty much has to get a true vig if only for stability's sake.

    If, OTOH, Inf selected the mafia a different way (possibly with a reroll if too many of them landed in the same 'class' of item table?), he may have been able to call it a wash in terms of where kills ended up, but this doesn't sound reasonable to me.

    EDIT: somewhat beat'd repeatedly. >.>

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    If there are Seers, I'm hoping they realize they should stay in last place, where it's harder to kill them. The only way to hit them would be if some of the Mafia lag behind as well, and any mafia who does that is going to have a hard time actually winning the race.

    I wouldn't expect there to be any Seers in such a short game, though.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    If there are Seers, I'm hoping they realize they should stay in last place, where it's harder to kill them. The only way to hit them would be if some of the Mafia lag behind as well, and any mafia who does that is going to have a hard time actually winning the race.

    I wouldn't expect there to be any Seers in such a short game, though.
    Yes, because the Seer totally has a choice in their place.

    It's not something they have direct control of like their post count. =p

    They should do whatever the hell they would normally do so as not to stick out to the mafia who can likely kill you no matter where you are.

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Ugh. Much as I want to keep my vote on Dunadan, Tiphareth is tripping my mafia sensor. Then again, so is Kime slightly. Hrm.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Are eliminated racers eligible for circuit victory?

    Ie, mafia member somehow manages to get 1st place in the first 3 races before being eliminated, so they have 45 points. Are they still a threat to win?

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  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Are eliminated racers eligible for circuit victory?

    Ie, mafia member somehow manages to get 1st place in the first 3 races before being eliminated, so they have 45 points. Are they still a threat to win?

    A racer must complete all four races to win the Mini Circuit.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Burnage wrote: »
    Ugh. Much as I want to keep my vote on Dunadan, Tiphareth is tripping my mafia sensor. Then again, so is Kime slightly. Hrm.

    Muahahahahaha

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Burnage wrote: »
    Ugh. Much as I want to keep my vote on Dunadan, Tiphareth is tripping my mafia sensor. Then again, so is Kime slightly. Hrm.

    Have I ever, not tripped your mafia sensor?

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Meh, to clarify my earlier "plan". I have a star item, if I get some votes I'd pop it and blaze in first place, since it makes me immune and all that. I sincerely hope the mafia doesn't have any kill-a-day abilities.

    However, since this is only a 4 day game there isn't really any use for kills in it. Race victory is the only thing that matters.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yes, clearly killing the village specials, the dangerous people, and anyone ahead of their chosen mafia member pushing for a high place in the races is not what the mafia wants to do.

    OH WAIT ALL THOSE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO RACE VICTORY.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Yes, because the Seer totally has a choice in their place.

    It's not something they have direct control of like their post count. =p

    They should do whatever the hell they would normally do so as not to stick out to the mafia who can likely kill you no matter where you are.

    I'm controlling my place by not soliciting Blue Votes from anyone else. I could control it further by hoarding items from my position instead of doing actions that count as votes.

    And there should be enough people in last place to make the odds of the Mafia picking Seers out of the bunch fairly low. When you're ahead of the pack and in danger of being smacked by Village Items as well, however, you're in danger.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Maybe if villagers with attack capabilities quit having awful aim, it wouldn't be an issue.

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Since most games have deaths as the way of controlling length, they need a certain amount of kill abilities to make it work. Since this game does not use kills to limit the length of it, it does not necessarily contain kill abilities. We will know that tomorrow however. The kill items might take the place of roles etc too, which you did speculate upon spectrum.

    Also, mostly awful aim comes from paranoia and limited information. No?

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Tiphareth wrote: »
    Since most games have deaths as the way of controlling length, they need a certain amount of kill abilities to make it work. Since this game does not use kills to limit the length of it, it does not necessarily contain kill abilities. We will know that tomorrow however. The kill items might take the place of roles etc too, which you did speculate upon spectrum.

    Also, mostly awful aim comes from paranoia and limited information. No?
    Haha, okay. The mafia don't have a good chance of winning this if they don't have kills to thin the pack. They need to kill enough people such that their chosen member(s) they're pushing to get high in the standings have a chance to actually get that high.

    And no, many people just have abysmal aim. (See any game with kuhlmeye as a vig.)

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    So....

    Rad Vote
    kime - 3
    enlightenedbum, Gandalf_the_Crazed, MrBlarney, Tiphareth, Toxic Toys - 2
    Arivia, B:L, Dunadan019 - 1

    Blue Vote
    kime, B:L - 3
    Toxic Toys, Burnage - 2
    enlightenedbum, MrBlarney, Dunadan019, adventfalls, Daius, FunkyWaltDogg, Jaenther, lonelyahava, simonwolf - 1

    ....... This is not ideal at all. Perhaps we could fix it?

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah. Could one of the kime voters switch to Arivqa?

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Robos A Go Go. He's evil, so says I.

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  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I do love ties, don't touch anything!

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Oh, I need to vote too, actually. Arivia

    Raakam, you wanna join in? You said you'd listen to me for the red vote :P.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Robos A Go Go. He's evil, so says I.

    Aw, I defended you in Disgaea!

    Also, switching Red vote to Arivia to save Kime, whom I owe.

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I would then suggest that perhaps kuhlmeye is a bit worse at reading people through a text medium or perhaps that he is a bit more paranoid than your person with average aim and thus gets a lot more false positives on his mafia radar. Anyway I digress.

    Although I agree with you that networks are not necessarily a good thing, confirmed people are a good thing.

    Blue vote manips and abilities might be enough to close the gap, but it is probably a more traditional game than I first anticipated. So yeah.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Robos A Go Go. He's evil, so says I.

    Aw, I defended you in Disgaea!

    but you're evil.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Aw, I defended you in Disgaea!

    Also, switching Red vote to Arivia to save Kime, whom I owe.
    hi5

    You actually have killed me a lot recently :lol:.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Tiphareth wrote: »
    I would then suggest that perhaps kuhlmeye is a bit worse at reading people through a text medium or perhaps that he is a bit more paranoid than your person with average aim and thus gets a lot more false positives on his mafia radar. Anyway I digress.
    Hahahahahaha.

    Okay, let's go stronger.

    How about kime as vig? Or Oats?

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I'm an amazing vig.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    No, no, that's too many Arivqa voters now. You're doing it wrong. Robos, switch to Dunadumb, that'll put everyone at 2.

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Spectrum. I remember everything.

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Kime, if you switch your vote to someone with two votes (other than gandalf, since I took my vote from him) I can join you and we can give someone four votes.

    Then you'll have to get five votes to be eliminated.

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I still consider myself a newbie to phalla and don't know all that much of my fellow phallaers. It was just a suggestion as a possible explanation. Nothing more.

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    kime wrote: »
    I'm an amazing vig.

    but you're the seer this time so that's kinda a wash.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I will switch to Arivia, because kime day one deaths are lame.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Understood, ebum. Thanks for taking one for the team.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Kime, if you switch your vote to someone with two votes (other than gandalf, since I took my vote from him) I can join you and we can give someone four votes.

    Then you'll have to get five votes to be eliminated.

    It looks like this may work, thanks though!
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    I'm an amazing vig.

    but you're the seer this time so that's kinda a wash.

    Yeah.... and I'm a bad seer. Granted, I've only been seer once, but it was kind of a .... bad experience...

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  • TipharethTiphareth Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Oh yeah, haven't voted red today. What is the vote at?

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Tiphareth wrote: »
    Oh yeah, haven't voted red today. What is the vote at?

    you - 5
    your mom - .25/go
    everyone else - []

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Arivia - 4
    enlightenedbum
    kime
    Robos A Go Go
    simonwolf

    ebum - 3
    Spectrum
    Toxic Toys
    adventfalls

    kime - 3
    Jaenther
    Tiphareth
    Zandracon

    Blarney - 2
    FunkyWaltDogg
    shalmelo

    Several with one.

    Also, I'm being made fun of in IRC because apparently that's not exactly right, but I think it is so there!

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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Tiphareth wrote: »
    Oh yeah, haven't voted red today. What is the vote at?

    you - 5
    your mom - .25/go
    everyone else - []

    That is a high quality spredeshete but that's copyrighted by one MrB:Larney.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Due to shocking incompetence and based on special request...

    Have a spreadsheet.

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Wait, my spreadsheet matches kime's counts. (I think you missed Toxic Toys' vote at post 92).

    Current Spreadsheet (up to post 240)

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