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The Goddamn Batman Would Have Words With The Both Of You [NSF56K]

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Ha! Flash got you Ming, he got you good.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Gehenna, you don't say that.

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    KVWKVW Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Servo wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    I thought it was perhaps a little focusing mantra Bullseye uses to calm himself in a fight. I haven't read anything with Bullseye before, I knew he was a psycho, but thought because he was also and awesome martial artist he might have been classically trained by a master somewhere and learnt those kind of mantras.

    Preferred that to it being a line from a song, but oh well.

    bullseye's whole deal is kind of that he's a fucking psycho who wouldn't have any kind of patience for classical training at all, which is why it's weird that he'd say anything more obscure than a "surf's up, pal!" type quip when killin'.

    His origin consists of him being a major league pitcher that killed a batter in the bottom of the 9th because he was bored and you think its weird he has horrible quips?

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    VermisVermis Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Note to self: don't buy Firestorm.

    Terrible. What's up with Batman's legs?

    KVW: that's one of his stories, anyway.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Vermis wrote: »
    Note to self: don't buy Firestorm.

    Note to self: Avoid Vermis and his terrible, awful, no good, very bad opinions.

    Munch on
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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The facial expressions in Firestorm are...really bad.

    The dialogue and such wasn't bad and it was funny at times but there seems to be kind of a disconnect between the art and the characters at times.

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    VermisVermis Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Munch wrote: »
    Vermis wrote: »
    Note to self: don't buy Firestorm.

    Note to self: Avoid Vermis and his terrible, awful, no good, very bad opinions.

    You wouldn't be the first, but you'd still be wrong. ;)

    But c'mon. "Black don't crack." - Ahahahahaha! Ha.

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    "Nngh... Ughh... Guuuuuh... Gotta tell Alfred to bake more of those bran muffins."

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    "Uhhuhduhh... it am Batman! Huh huh huh huh! Me show him newly installed lighting - raise value of mouth a lot."

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    WHAT. Thighs that KFC would kill for, shoulder blades (or lats, or something) that stick out the best part of a foot behind his ribcage, a right arm that looks like it attaches above the right shoulder, etc. etc. I mean, is Liefeld once more spreading his malign influence across the comic world from his dark fortress in Californior? This wouldn't look out of place in that Progressive Boink article.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah, I'm not seeing it, but then I've always liked Jamal Igle's stuff. He's timely, renders figures well, and knows how to tell a clear, understandable story. That Batman's admittedly goofy looking, but it's due more to the fact that he's about a head and a half too short more so than anything else. I get the feeling that you'd be the type to criticize Kevin Maguire's art, because he actually makes characters' faces wrinkle up and contort when they're making expressions.

    But by all means, continue ignoring a series that was canceled a few years ago. It shouldn't be hard!

    Anyway.

    An oldie from Green Lantern;

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    And from Jai Nitz and Phil Hester's El Diablo #5; the villain of the book has just arrived to kill Lazarus Lane, the first El Diablo, who's been an incorporeal spirit for the better part of the series.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    That Booster Gold outfit is so cool, who is the artist there?

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Vermis, do you know how to look at things? Or are you just winging it? Because you sound demented.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    El Diablo looks pretty cool, but in general I think the idea of replacing your arm with a blade is pretty dumb. Razorfist epitomizes this.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    That Booster Gold outfit is so cool, who is the artist there?

    Mike S. Miller, who went on to do the absolutely terrible conservative webcomics, Electronic Tigers and Right Left Center.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    That's Mike Miller? It looks more angular than his JLA work and Ultimate X-Men character designs.

    I just like that outfit because it is more gold than blue(ster).

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Munch wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    That Booster Gold outfit is so cool, who is the artist there?

    Mike S. Miller, who went on to do the absolutely terrible conservative webcomics, Electronic Tigers and Right Left Center.

    He can't be serious.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I just like that outfit because it is more gold than blue(ster).

    Agreed. I like how the headpiece flows into the shoulder and chest area of the costume, and the black stripes down the legs.

    I think he actually kept that costume right up until Countdown to Infinite Crisis, though I could be wrong.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    SInce I was getting some comics ready to sell, I thought I would scan in a fun scene from Justice League America #34, with a great Adam Hughes cover (not as good as #37's was that I posted earlier, but still good):

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    Basically Beetle and Booster open up a JLA themed casino on an island and Major Disaster and Big Sir play Rainman and count cards to ruin Blue & Gold's investment, and Aquaman is there as well:

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Munch wrote: »
    TexiKen wrote: »
    That Booster Gold outfit is so cool, who is the artist there?

    Mike S. Miller, who went on to do the absolutely terrible conservative webcomics, Electronic Tigers and Right Left Center.

    He can't be serious.

    Comedy. Gold.

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Why would you ever sell one of that run of JLA. So much joy!

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I'm trying to pay it forward or whatever Kevin Spacey and Haley Joel Osmont wanted to do in that movie!

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I just want to see Booster and Ted's tan lines after they take those masks off. Awkward.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The next issue did have that joke that came true twenty years later (thanks, Greg Rucka):

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    Hello WaterfaceHello Waterface Sweet Little Rock 'n' Roller In the timbers of FennarioRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    TexiKen wrote: »
    The next issue did have that joke that came true twenty years later (thanks, Greg Rucka):

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    Too soon, too soon...

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    That is so awesome... dang.

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    VermisVermis Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Vermis, do you know how to look at things?

    One of us doesn't, at any rate. ;-) And one of us is defending that twisted scrawl. That ought to narrow it down a bit.

    Since you're struggling, I guess I could break down the worst example a bit more objectively.

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    A. Where is Batman's shoulder?
    B. What does this line represent and exactly where is it going?
    C. Who inserted balloons in Batman's thighs?
    Why does the overall effect look like Batman's just been stabbed in the buttocks?

    I'm some noob you don't know from Adam, but trust me, I know at least a bit about drawing and this is bad drawing. I'm not invoking Rob Liefeld just because of his infamy - I honestly think this is similar to Liefeld's own bad grasp of anatomy.
    And the expressions suck too.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Why are blue beetle and booster wearing their costumes in that casino? Wouldn't they, I dunno, wear suits and look professional or something?

    Stuff like that always bothers me. Heroes are always wearing their costumes at inappropriate times. Team meetings, birthday parties, weddings, funerals

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    Why are blue beetle and booster wearing their costumes in that casino? Wouldn't they, I dunno, wear suits and look professional or something?

    Stuff like that always bothers me. Heroes are always wearing their costumes at inappropriate times. Team meetings, birthday parties, weddings, funerals

    Well, in the case of funerals, I'm pretty sure its an established part of DC that they hold two funerals for heroes. One with their public identity, and one for the super-hero community. Its usually the super-hero funerals that they show in comics. And I would imagine that its a lot more like a military service. They wear their uniform out of honor.

    You gotta remember, just because most super-hero costumes are tights and spandex to the readers, and perhaps a bit tacky, within the comic universe they are a symbol of pride and meaning.

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    sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Langly wrote: »
    Why are blue beetle and booster wearing their costumes in that casino? Wouldn't they, I dunno, wear suits and look professional or something?

    Stuff like that always bothers me. Heroes are always wearing their costumes at inappropriate times. Team meetings, birthday parties, weddings, funerals

    I noticed that too but it made it funnier that they were going broke.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Vermis wrote: »
    Vermis, do you know how to look at things?

    One of us doesn't, at any rate. ;-) And one of us is defending that twisted scrawl. That ought to narrow it down a bit.

    Since you're struggling, I guess I could break down the worst example a bit more objectively.

    batdrumsticksnotes.jpg

    A. Where is Batman's shoulder?
    B. What does this line represent and exactly where is it going?
    C. Who inserted balloons in Batman's thighs?
    Why does the overall effect look like Batman's just been stabbed in the buttocks?

    I'm some noob you don't know from Adam, but trust me, I know at least a bit about drawing and this is bad drawing. I'm not invoking Rob Liefeld just because of his infamy - I honestly think this is similar to Liefeld's own bad grasp of anatomy.
    And the expressions suck too.

    Yeah.

    You are putting WAY too much work in this.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I guess superheroes wear their costumes a lot because they like being heroes. The heroic side of them, represented by their costume, is the side they are proud of, the side that fearlessly protects the innocent etc, rather than their normal self who is just a guy, and I think a lot of heroes would rather remember that they showed that better side of themselves while at important events of their life than their fallable, human side.

    Besides, lot's of heroes only know each other in a superheroic sense, though they might by long time allies, and there is always the desire to protect the secret identity, though the idea of the secret identity has fallen away in comics these days.

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    If you look at it as a uniform instead of a costume, it makes sense that characters would wear them to formal events (like a military uniform can be worn instead of a tux, etc).

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    If you look at it as a uniform instead of a costume, it makes sense that characters would wear them to formal events (like a military uniform can be worn instead of a tux, etc).

    That's true.

    I was just talking to a friend about wearing a costume to your wedding, and he made an interesting point. The part of themselves that many heroes are most proud of is that they are a superhero and that they do try to help others without looking for fame or money or anything like that, just because it's the right thing to do. If that was the case, then you would be proud of the costume you wear and might consider wearing it to your wedding, because it represents the very best of who you are.

    Just thought that was a good point.

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    HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Vermis wrote: »

    I'm some noob you don't know from Adam, but trust me, I know at least a bit about drawing and this is bad drawing. I'm not invoking Rob Liefeld just because of his infamy - I honestly think this is similar to Liefeld's own bad grasp of anatomy.

    Batman's got big quads and lats/traps. That's hardly Liefeld level anatomy there. And besides, Liefeld is the best, so there is nothing wrong with taking art in that direction.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    So how about those awesome panels and pages, guys?

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
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    I love this cover

    in this issue, the Dinobots call in reinforcements from the Monsterbots, to fight an organization that has humans piloting Transformer sized mechs. The Monsterbots help by eating the opposition.
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    CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Oh Transformers, will you ever be that awesome again?

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    Do not have a cow, mortal.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    I agree with the previous poster; That was some pretty bad art re: Batman.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Dammit people, enough with the bitch already. There is a thread for that. This is supposed to be about awesome panels or awesome pages.

    This is pretty awesome:

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    eye teeth are always unsettling

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    FaynorFaynor Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    noooo not my glass crotch

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    revcomrevcom Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Faynor wrote: »
    noooo not my glass crotch

    i think its his ice crotch, actually

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