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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Guys.

    Guys.

    Fuck the proletariat.

    Like... "slummin' it"?

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  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    I started on a rather long post about how commodities trading works but I am tired and I don't think I can do a better job than wiki anyhow

    I make a promise to buy a ton of shit at a later date. Like a lot. And I have until that time to sell it all off to smaller buyers at that date.

    'Cause it's silly to just buy 5 billion pounds of pork fat, and spend 6 months holding on to it, trying to find buyers.

    It's better to buy the fat before it exists and sell it before you actually deal with it.

    Well duh.

    Can you imagine how much it would cost to store that shit?

    Well what else is there to explain? That's fundamentally how it works, right?

    Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.

    With... math?

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ronaldo I am going to select you.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    We have someone here whose first name is Glee. How terrible.

    Lets all have coffee the way MikeMan has his cocks.

    ...

    Anally?

    Intravenously.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Like... "slummin' it"?

    No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.

    With... math?

    Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Guys.

    Guys.

    Fuck the proletariat.
    Screw the middle classes
    my father's other family was middle class
    and we were kept out of sight
    hidden from view
    at his funeral.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.

    With... math?

    Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.

    Which I assume is based on past prices, economic adjustments and heavy bartering?

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Like... "slummin' it"?

    No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.

    I thought you were commenting on market talk

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    fuck gendered marketing
  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Like... "slummin' it"?

    No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.

    What is proletariat literature? Instruction manuals?

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Like... "slummin' it"?

    No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.

    I thought you were commenting on market talk

    No I am commenting on this paper that I have still not finished, which is why I am still awake.

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  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    State of the art Robot, you couldn't kill me.

    You'd become me.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    God suddenly I get sick and fatigue sets in and oh god I cannot think at all.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Like... "slummin' it"?

    No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.

    What is proletariat literature? Instruction manuals?

    Ah! That is indeed the question of the paper! What is proletarian literature. It's A. literature written by the proletariat, b, literature written about the proletariat, c. literature read by the proletariat or d. literature written by a writer that is imbued with a revolutionary class consciousness and the knowledge that the future belongs to the workers.

    (My paper is on the difficulties of defining proletarian literature).

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    Elldren wrote: »
    Yeah but I thought you wanted to know how valuation worked.

    With... math?

    Ridiculously complex math yeah, but at its core it's about how much people are willing to pay for something vs how much people are willing to sell something.

    Which I assume is based on past prices, economic adjustments and heavy bartering?

    and the golden rule of classical economics, supply vs demand.

    Though I think it's important to note that those are both determined far more by how many individual sellers/buyers of thing x there are than the number of thing xes.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    James wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    james i miss ya man

    even though that's not your true name

    It's my identity. That's good enough.

    Do we have to go into this again?

    I'm usurping you!

    You've been Usurped!

    I'm going to usurp your mom.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Proletariat literature seems like it would be stuff like

    Huck Finn.

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  • SamiSami Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I just figured out how to play the keyboard cat song. I can quit learning the piano now, seeing as I've mastered the best it has to offer.

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    State of the art Robot, you couldn't kill me.

    You'd become me.

    Not until I find a thunderstone.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Welp, I think the aesthetics thread is done. It was nice while it lasted.

    Sometime I would like to start a more...ground-level thread on criticism and critical theory and keep the philosophy at a healthy arms' length. I think there's a weird hostility among certain quarters towards the idea of criticism or aesthetic judgment and I'd like to get at why that is.

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  • SamiSami Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    James wrote: »
    Proletariat literature seems like it would be stuff like

    Huck Finn.

    Upton Sinclair, Steinbeck, etc.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Like... "slummin' it"?

    No, like, let's just get rid of them. So I never have to write a paper on their literature again.

    What is proletariat literature? Instruction manuals?

    Ah! That is indeed the question of the paper! What is proletarian literature. It's A. literature written by the proletariat, b, literature written about the proletariat, c. literature read by the proletariat or d. literature written by a writer that is imbued with a revolutionary class consciousness and the knowledge that the future belongs to the workers.

    (My paper is on the difficulties of defining proletarian literature).

    I want to say "all of the above," but the precise justification is beyond what I'm exactly capable of right now.

    I mean, if it's written by a working class citizen, then aren't we all a result of our experiences, and as such anything created by the proletariat will carry a... "brand" with it. If it's written about the working class then it seems easy to brand it as such, given the intent of the work, right? Books read by proletarians seem to be right, because that is what an archeologist would look at. What was their culture? Their own entertainment?

    And the fourth is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?

    I don't know. I haven't been in any class that required me to think in such a long time, I feel like I'm too out of practice.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Oh shit, my forum birthday was two days ago.

    I've been on this forum for four years now.

    That just feels really weird.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Sami wrote: »
    James wrote: »
    Proletariat literature seems like it would be stuff like

    Huck Finn.

    Upton Sinclair, Steinbeck, etc.

    Those seem really, really easy, though. There's gotta be more, and more subtle entries. There's always more subtlety. Finer lines that can be drawn or redrawn or reexamined. Just listing "The Jungle" is like trying to define the 56+ 'reds' for crayola, and deciding to fuck all, and erase all but just "Red".

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    And the third is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?

    I lol'ed.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    James wrote: »
    James wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    james i miss ya man

    even though that's not your true name

    It's my identity. That's good enough.

    Do we have to go into this again?

    I'm usurping you!

    You've been Usurped!

    I'm going to uslurp your mom.

    :winky:

    ...

    D:

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    hahaha

    james is on a roll... red :P

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    And the third is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?

    I lol'ed.

    I meant fourth. I can't count.

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  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I face every day knowing that there are people out there that hate Raichu.

    I hope the maker shows them the mercy that I can not.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I want to say "all of the above," but the precise justification is beyond what I'm exactly capable of right now.

    I mean, if it's written by a working class citizen, then aren't we all a result of our experiences, and as such anything created by the proletariat will carry a... "brand" with it. If it's written about the working class then it seems easy to brand it as such, given the intent of the work, right? Books read by proletarians seem to be right, because that is what an archeologist would look at. What was their culture? Their own entertainment?

    And the third is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?

    I don't know. I haven't been in any class that required me to think in such a long time, I feel like I'm too out of practice.

    Well all of them have their merits and downsides.

    A member of the proletarian can write a pro-capitlist novel. A book written about the proletariat can disparage them, a book written about the bourgeois could reveal their corrupt and decadence. Something read by the proletariat could uphold bourgeois ideals or simply be the sunday paper. The ideological intent is probably the most direct but tended to produce some pretty bad literature when say, a middle class person tried to write a working class novel, despite having socialist ideals.

    It also depends on what perspective you look at it from, ie. that of a historian, or that of "what type of writing would be most effective in causing a proletarian revolution?"

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    And the third is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?

    I lol'ed.

    I meant fourth. I can't count.

    I wasn't laughing at that. Pro-letarian was funny in a kind of terrible way.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2009
    communism is the opiate of bourgeois guilt

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I face every day knowing that there are people out there that hate Raichu.

    I hope the maker shows them the mercy that I can not.

    I can't imagine why.
    Kimmy__s_Raichu_by_ridi.png

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Raichu is great after your Pikachu has learned all the moves he can. Then, BAM uber stats.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    And the third is like... pro-letarian literature, so that's gotta count, right?

    I lol'ed.

    I meant fourth. I can't count.

    I wasn't laughing at that. Pro-letarian was funny in a kind of terrible way.

    I know, I was retroactively correcting my mistake.

    And "funny in a terrible kind of way" is like... my thing. My "thing".

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Blargh. Bedtime for Bonzo, I think.

    Have a good night, everyone.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Elldren wrote: »
    communism is the opiate of bourgeois guilt

    I..

    I think I love you.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    Welp, I think the aesthetics thread is done. It was nice while it lasted.

    Sometime I would like to start a more...ground-level thread on criticism and critical theory and keep the philosophy at a healthy arms' length. I think there's a weird hostility among certain quarters towards the idea of criticism or aesthetic judgment and I'd like to get at why that is.

    I have lost count of the number of times someone has stated "Well, that's my opinion" after being challenged about something. I know that's your opinion, douchebag, I'm just curious why that's your opinion. People do not like to be challenged and disagreeing with someone is a tricky business.

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  • RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I face every day knowing that there are people out there that hate Raichu.

    I hope the maker shows them the mercy that I can not.

    I can't imagine why.
    Kimmy__s_Raichu_by_ridi.png

    This is more of a reason to hate anybody with koi in their name, deviantart, or other such things. Hate the player[s who suffer from some kind of cerebral palsy that makes them think they should make some bad fanservice raichu picture where instead of being any of the things he originally is he looks like something out of an ad-stuffed disney characters porno site], not the game foo.

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