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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Corbius wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The rifle, something something phallic symbol, engendered power to the women allowing her to subvert gender roles and take power over the patriarchy, something something.

    It is always stereotypically the rifle that the women would go for right?

    Or.

    The woman taking the rifle implies that she is to weak and or unskilled to get into or operate well in the shorter range required by the handgun, so she takes the handgun to upset stereotypes blah blah blah.

    The real answer is the man has sex with the woman at gunpoint, because women are sex objects am i rite?

    Or alternatively, "SOMEONE will at least theoretically take fault with any decision you make, so just try to be fair and write good characters."

    yalborap on
  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    MrMister wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    It's art and entertainment, so people vote with their wallets.

    If people want them to make games with non-banal stories, they need to demand games with non-banal stories and to stop buying games with banal stories.

    I don't know why there's a responsibility to be an ethical consumer, but no responsibility to be an ethical producer.

    Good luck here MrMr. Last time I tried to argue that companies have an obligation to more then just their shareholders and the law I got dogpiled.

    It certainly can't be controversial in the single-ownership case: if I own a game studio, then I can do whatever I want with it.

    I see it as a defect of corporate governance that public companies, by contrast, are compelled to maximize shareholder profit. Although I also understand that provision to be one of the few things keeping management in check (not that it succeeds, but you know).

    MrMister on
  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    yalborap wrote: »
    Corbius wrote: »
    Leitner wrote: »
    The rifle, something something phallic symbol, engendered power to the women allowing her to subvert gender roles and take power over the patriarchy, something something.

    It is always stereotypically the rifle that the women would go for right?

    Or.

    The woman taking the rifle implies that she is to weak and or unskilled to get into or operate well in the shorter range required by the handgun, so she takes the handgun to upset stereotypes blah blah blah.

    The real answer is the man has sex with the woman at gunpoint, because women are sex objects am i rite?

    Or alternatively, "SOMEONE will at least theoretically take fault with any decision you make, so just try to be fair and write good characters."

    Or alternatively, "if you write good characters then it's not important who carries which gun."

    MrMister on
  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    This debate is everything I hate about feminism.

    Abdhyius on
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  • RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Organichu wrote: »

    So, this is bullshit. This website here... blocked at work as "news/media", but I can get to cnn.com.

    I can't get to The Onion, but I can get to Foxnews...

    This shit is wrong.

    Ryadic on
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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Ryadic wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »

    So, this is bullshit. This website here... blocked at work as "news/media", but I can get to cnn.com.

    I can't get to The Onion, but I can get to Foxnews...

    This shit is wrong.

    Basically some dude gambled away 127 million dollars over a year in Vegas casinos. He's bringing suit because allegedly he was comped alcohol and pain killers to lube his judgment.

    Organichu on
  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    This debate is everything I hate about feminism.

    Feminism hates you too.

    Bogart on
  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    This debate is everything I hate about feminism.

    Its got fuck-all to do with feminism. And you people are all failing to tickle my funnybone just now.

    The Cat on
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  • RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Organichu wrote: »
    Ryadic wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »

    So, this is bullshit. This website here... blocked at work as "news/media", but I can get to cnn.com.

    I can't get to The Onion, but I can get to Foxnews...

    This shit is wrong.

    Basically some dude gambled away 127 million dollars over a year in Vegas casinos. He's bringing suit because allegedly he was comped alcohol and pain killers to lube his judgment.

    If it's true, then he may have a case. I mean, if the casino is like, here have this free alcohol and sit down at this table. Just give me your card and we'll give you some chips. Yeah, it'll be alright.

    Gambling is an addiction, and some people can develop problems. On the other hand, fucker should've saved himself the time and hassle and given me the money.

    Ryadic on
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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Is Chihiro NAKATA a male or female name?

    I answered with "Dear Mr. Nakata" but now I'm doubting if that was right.

    Aldo on
  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    The Cat wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    This debate is everything I hate about feminism.

    Its got fuck-all to do with feminism. And you people are all failing to tickle my funnybone just now.

    you people?

    what do you mean by 'you people'?

    Dunadan019 on
  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Ryadic wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »

    So, this is bullshit. This website here... blocked at work as "news/media", but I can get to cnn.com.

    I can't get to The Onion, but I can get to Foxnews...

    This shit is wrong.

    I can't get there either. its blocked as 'streaming media'

    I've seen some sites blocked for being 'tasteless'

    Dunadan019 on
  • RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    The Cat wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    This debate is everything I hate about feminism.

    Its got fuck-all to do with feminism. And you people are all failing to tickle my funnybone just now.

    you people?

    what do you mean by 'you people'?

    'cism.

    Ryadic on
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  • RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Ryadic wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »

    So, this is bullshit. This website here... blocked at work as "news/media", but I can get to cnn.com.

    I can't get to The Onion, but I can get to Foxnews...

    This shit is wrong.

    I can't get there either. its blocked as 'streaming media'

    I've seen some sites blocked for being 'tasteless'

    Yeah, apparently bash.org is tasteless.

    Ryadic on
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  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    Is Chihiro NAKATA a male or female name?

    I answered with "Dear Mr. Nakata" but now I'm doubting if that was right.

    Chihiro is mostly used by females. You'd know this if you watched Spirited Away.

    Premier kakos on
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    Is Chihiro NAKATA a male or female name?

    I answered with "Dear Mr. Nakata" but now I'm doubting if that was right.

    Chihiro is mostly used by females. You'd know this if you watched Spirited Away.

    eeck.

    she wants to publish one of my photos, I should probably not try to piss her off.

    Aldo on
  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    Is Chihiro NAKATA a male or female name?

    I answered with "Dear Mr. Nakata" but now I'm doubting if that was right.

    Chihiro is mostly used by females. You'd know this if you watched Spirited Away.

    eeck.

    she wants to publish one of my photos, I should probably not try to piss her off.

    Should have answered with "Dear Nakata-san"

    Premier kakos on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    I know that it has nothing to do with feminism

    tell that to the feminists I've talked to

    Abdhyius on
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  • RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    ABD, have you skills in FELLATING a ROOSTER improved?

    Ryadic on
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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I know that it has nothing to do with feminism

    tell that to the feminists I've talked to

    People who say they are something sometimes aren't that something really.

    Edit: And also people who say they are something non-stupid are sometimes actually really stupid about some things.

    poshniallo on
    I figure I could take a bear.
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    Is Chihiro NAKATA a male or female name?

    I answered with "Dear Mr. Nakata" but now I'm doubting if that was right.

    Chihiro is mostly used by females. You'd know this if you watched Spirited Away.

    eeck.

    she wants to publish one of my photos, I should probably not try to piss her off.

    Should have answered with "Dear Nakata-san"

    hehe, her English was pretty bad anyway, so she might not even have noticed.

    Should have just gone for Dear <full name>.

    Aldo on
  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    In those situations I just go with "Yo:"

    Bama on
  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    I know that it has nothing to do with feminism

    tell that to the feminists I've talked to

    If it has nothing to do with feminism why is it 'everything you hate about feminism'? Does not compute.

    Bogart on
  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    Aldo wrote: »
    Is Chihiro NAKATA a male or female name?

    I answered with "Dear Mr. Nakata" but now I'm doubting if that was right.

    Chihiro is mostly used by females. You'd know this if you watched Spirited Away.

    eeck.

    she wants to publish one of my photos, I should probably not try to piss her off.

    Should have answered with "Dear Nakata-san"

    hehe, her English was pretty bad anyway, so she might not even have noticed.

    Should have just gone for Dear <full name>.

    You are probably going to be kidnapped by Yakuza.

    Frosteey on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    All the people who aren't feminists have made me hate feminism. That's kinda unfair.

    Abdhyius on
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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    But the photo publishing is still 50-50.

    Frosteey on
  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Dear <full name> is a little awkward, but it's the right choice if google-fu can't quickly reveal the name's gender, or if it's actually androgynous.

    MrMister on
  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    All the people who aren't feminists have made me hate feminism. That's kinda unfair.

    of you.

    poshniallo on
    I figure I could take a bear.
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    ignore this post if you don't want to see me bitch about stupid shit
    Y'know, I don't want to be all "hargle bargle vegetarian", but I find it amusing that this was said in the games and feminism thread in relation to the video game industry, and no one gave it shit, yet when I propose people do the same thing for eating meat I get countless rebuttals:
    Because America has a massive hard on for free market capitalism and as such all responsibility lies with the consumer rather than the producer, the producers are only there to serve the needs of the consumer as dictated by their spending habits, people are still buying games with banal stories therefore they are happy with banal stories and there's no financial incentive for the producer to change.

    Basically companies have no morals or conscience and seen no need to change their behaviour unless it profits them or they are forced by eternal pressures.

    To the bolded specifically- If the responsibility in the market of video gaming lies with the consumer in the American Market, does not also the responsibility in the market of meat consumption lie with the consumer?

    Arch on
  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    All the people who aren't feminists have made me hate feminism. That's kinda unfair.

    Academics, am I right (this is about as broad as you're being here)?

    Leitner on
  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2009
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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Arch wrote: »
    ignore this post if you don't want to see me bitch about stupid shit
    Y'know, I don't want to be all "hargle bargle vegetarian", but I find it amusing that this was said in the games and feminism thread in relation to the video game industry, and no one gave it shit, yet when I propose people do the same thing for eating meat I get countless rebuttals:
    Because America has a massive hard on for free market capitalism and as such all responsibility lies with the consumer rather than the producer, the producers are only there to serve the needs of the consumer as dictated by their spending habits, people are still buying games with banal stories therefore they are happy with banal stories and there's no financial incentive for the producer to change.

    Basically companies have no morals or conscience and seen no need to change their behaviour unless it profits them or they are forced by eternal pressures.

    To the bolded specifically- If the responsibility in the market of video gaming lies with the consumer in the American Market, does not also the responsibility in the market of meat consumption lie with the consumer?

    Did psycojester specifically give you shit about it?

    Because there's far too much 'people around here say X' used in debates here.

    poshniallo on
    I figure I could take a bear.
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    poshniallo wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    All the people who aren't feminists have made me hate feminism. That's kinda unfair.

    of you.

    Seriously Abdhy, you have been on a roll for saying some really patently stupid shit (even compared to your normal stuff) that borders on trolling dude. Take a breather and don't just knee-jerk an incentive statement just to rile people up. This is coming from someone who said, a long time ago
    Arch wrote:
    I don't get why Preacher is flipping out on Abdhy- I don't think he is a bad guy
    *

    *paraphrased

    Arch on
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    poshniallo wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    ignore this post if you don't want to see me bitch about stupid shit
    Y'know, I don't want to be all "hargle bargle vegetarian", but I find it amusing that this was said in the games and feminism thread in relation to the video game industry, and no one gave it shit, yet when I propose people do the same thing for eating meat I get countless rebuttals:
    Because America has a massive hard on for free market capitalism and as such all responsibility lies with the consumer rather than the producer, the producers are only there to serve the needs of the consumer as dictated by their spending habits, people are still buying games with banal stories therefore they are happy with banal stories and there's no financial incentive for the producer to change.

    Basically companies have no morals or conscience and seen no need to change their behaviour unless it profits them or they are forced by eternal pressures.

    To the bolded specifically- If the responsibility in the market of video gaming lies with the consumer in the American Market, does not also the responsibility in the market of meat consumption lie with the consumer?

    Did psycojester specifically give you shit about it?

    Because there's far too much 'people around here say X' used in debates here.

    Fair enough

    Arch on
  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Trojan in temporary internet files.

    As easy to get rid of as it was to obtain, but still annoying.

    James on
  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Frosteey wrote: »
    You are probably going to be kidnapped by Yakuza.
    An adventure!

    Cool!

    Aldo on
  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2009
    Abd, you just plain aren't making sense. Or are you going to become everything that's made me hate Scandinavians?

    Bogart on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Man you people be around trolls too much

    to make things painfully clear:

    I don't have any problem with feminism, but I still get a "ugh, fuck, feminism" emotional reaction to the topic. This isn't feminism's fault, it's the fault of "feminists". Which is unfair.

    Abdhyius on
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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited December 2009
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Man you people be around trolls too much

    to make things painfully clear:

    I don't have any problem with feminism, but I still get a "ugh, fuck, feminism" emotional reaction to the topic. This isn't feminism's fault, it's the fault of "feminists". Which is unfair.

    Or it's your own fault.

    That topic just made me vaguely irritated with ELM for asking leading questions.

    poshniallo on
    I figure I could take a bear.
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