I gotta agree with some of the comments, I don't know why they bothered posting that. It looks like TR combat (which is good) but with all the graphics turned down to Shitastic.
Honestly, my hopes are falling with every update they make, I have been following this from the beginning and it does not seem they are making a good game, but let's see, my being a fan of Stargate guarentees that I atleast try this out.
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KlatuAussie Aussie AussieOi Oi OiRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
I'm really looking forward to this game. I love the series but I'm also a bit of an MMO nut, so I'll try nearly any MMO that comes out.
I gotta agree with some of the comments, I don't know why they bothered posting that. It looks like TR combat (which is good) but with all the graphics turned down to Shitastic.
From the gameplay video's I've seen it's doesn't look anything like Tabula Rasa's combat. It looks significantly slower, plus it's driven with a pointer just like every other MMORPG.
So, uh... this probably does not bode well for Stargate Worlds. Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment is the company behind the game, and one can only assume they're paid weekly or bi-monthly.
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I guess the game is in beta now. There is the usual NDA in place which means information is still gonna be scarce. But in all honesty, the complete and utter lack of information is startling. Usually gamer mags or online sites such as 1up, Gamespot, etc are thrown a few bones by the devs every now and again to write some "sneak peek" type articles based on what they have seen and played in the beta. But I can't find crap.
The fact that they are keeping this game under such tight wraps makes me believe that it isn't very close to done, or that it isn't very good, or maybe both. If they were having a spectacular beta process, we'd be seeing shit all over the place hyping it up. As it stands now, the only game info I can find online is severely dated.
So, uh... this probably does not bode well for Stargate Worlds. Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment is the company behind the game, and one can only assume they're paid weekly or bi-monthly.
Ouch. That's up to 64 days. I can't imagine that's good news.
Well I'm actually semi-interested in this game, because I'm desperately seeking a good Sci-Fi MMO. If anyone sees or hears anything about this game that is repeatable (not breaking the NDA) please post here.
So, uh... this probably does not bode well for Stargate Worlds. Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment is the company behind the game, and one can only assume they're paid weekly or bi-monthly.
Ouch. That's up to 64 days. I can't imagine that's good news.
I've heard that developers are leaving due to lack of, you know, payment. If they bail, their creditors end up with the assets, including the game, right? Hope springs eternal I suppose.
The word on the official forums is that everything is peachy, but I don't really trust a company to say "we don't pay our employees" openly and the posters there seem to have managed to become fanboys and girls before the game is even nearing release so anything short of direct information from verified devs seems to get called fake automatically.
Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if this thing dies before release.
Here's a strange update. After numerous rumors of them running out of funds, they recently announced that they're working on a second game! An online shooter no less!
If this new one somehow gets out first. This is what killed the Gods & Heroes guys, they didn't have enough money to work on two games at once, so tried switching to just Star Trek (to fulfill their license contract), but did it too late and both died.
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ArchonexNo hard feelings, right?Registered Userregular
edited December 2009
That looks.... Utterly mediocre, actually.
It kind of had my attention when they mentioned "fighting for dominance of areas", but apparently that's market speak for "imagine that playing CTF is helping you to take over this planet (Which is actually a small death-match level like any other online FPS.) in the name of the SGC/Goaul'd".
Edit: The company that made Gods and Heroes died because someone in their executive department was a complete and utter frig-witted moron, who decided to cancel a game when it was gold and ready to be released after a year of beta-testing, and even more years of development.
Here's a strange update. After numerous rumors of them running out of funds, they recently announced that they're working on a second game! An online shooter no less!
Wonder why the people who own Stargate IP would go with such a no-name tiny studio for an MMO? I think Stargate is well-known enough that they could have done better.
Then again, Star Trek started with a tiny no-name company too...
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ArchonexNo hard feelings, right?Registered Userregular
edited December 2009
Once Sci-Fi got their hands on Stargate, it's been one long down-hill slide of phenominally bad decisions mismanaging the franchise.
Keep in mind that the same people who would let these guys have the rights to develop a Stargate game are, probably, the same ones who decided that canceling the current reasonably popular and well-grounded SG series in favor of Universe was a good idea.
The idea behind Stargate: Universe is, for the record, that it has nothing in common with the original Stargate series, in hopes that it'll bring in an entirely new fanbase in place of the one they have now.
As an example of the stupidity involved with the franchise currently, there has been some outrage and confusion from at least one writer of the current series, that the original fanbase of the series outright hates Universe for having nothing to do with Stargate. Apparently they can't grasp the concept that making a TV show have nothing to do with the series it's named after is not going to garner viewers of the original show.
Needless to say, the people controlling the direction of the series now aren't the brightest bulbs in the room.
Once Sci-Fi got their hands on Stargate, it's been one long down-hill slide of phenominally bad decisions mismanaging the franchise.
Keep in mind that the same people who would let these guys have the rights to develop a Stargate game are, probably, the same ones who decided that canceling the current reasonably popular and well-grounded SG series in favor of Universe was a good idea.
The idea behind Stargate: Universe is, for the record, that it has nothing in common with the original Stargate series, in hopes that it'll bring in an entirely new fanbase in place of the one they have now.
As an example of the stupidity involved with the franchise currently, there has been some outrage and confusion from at least one writer of the current series, that the original fanbase of the series outright hates Universe for having nothing to do with Stargate. Apparently they can't grasp the concept that making a TV show have nothing to do with the series it's named after is not going to garner viewers of the original show.
Needless to say, the people controlling the direction of the series now aren't the brightest bulbs in the room.
Except the people controlling the direction of the series now are the same people who have always controlled the direction of the series.
Glassner is the only one of the original writers/producers who still isn't on board and he has been gone for a long time (he left at the end of season 3). The show left Showtime at the end of Season 5 and I'm sorry but if you feel like the show went "downhill" in seasons 6-8 (lets ignore 9,10 for now; no one on the show had expected to be renewed after 8) then Stargate simply isn't for you because the first few Scifi years were among the best the series ever had to offer, if not the best.
Yes, SG:U is of questionable content and quality; I frequently feel like it has nothing at all to do with Stargate and is constantly jarring whenever they even mention previous events in SG because they don't seem part of the same universe, and yes Mallozzi is a complete douche (this has always been the case if you watch any commentary on the DVD's on episodes he did), but it's a little silly to act like something magically changed with the people who run the show.
Same people. Always has been.
The irony is, several of the producers have complained in the past about how Showtime had pushed them to make things more edgy and mature (see original Children of the Gods); yet now with SG:U they're making what Showtime probably would have liked in the first place....purposefully.
EDIT: Also the cancellation of SG:A was a joint decision by all parties involved. The writers/producers were getting bored of the same old shit (and lets be honest; season 5 of SG:A was terrible, so that's a fair assessment), SciFi was getting annoyed that despite the increase in ratings SG:A had over SG:1 (initially at least), it wasn't bringing in any new viewers to their lineup unlike other shows like BSG, and MGM was getting tired of how increasingly expensive producing episodes was getting (despite heavy budget cuts in season 5) vs the complete lack of increase in viewership/revenue. They all wanted to go a different direction. Unfortunately that direction wasn't where, it would appear, the vast majority of old SG fans want to go; but it's not like SG:U is hurting for ratings and viewers. Many of us old school stalwarts continue to watch it out of stubbornness or out of loyalty. And honestly it's not all bad. It has its moments and it could turn into something really good. Whether it turns into a Stargate show at any point remains to be seen.
Stargate Galactica was exactly what I thought after watching a few episodes as well, but I'm not butthurt about it like a lot of the comments I read. The Hulu discussion board is just filled with people that dislike the show for the wrong reasons.
Battlestar Galactica was wildly popular, and is overall considered to be a good show. So why knock SGU automatically, simply because it's using a similar narrative technique?
The biggest issue of course is this: SGU is a *Character drama*, NOT a scifi action show like a lot of the fanbase wanted, I guess. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, it's just different from previous Stargate series -- hence why it's a new series with its own name.
The show isn't without problems -- but I think that has more to do with the writers needing to hit their groove with the new narrative style. I think some of the stuff is utterly unnecessary though ... like that whole club scene in Life where they kept concentrating on the club. Or the can of worms with using the Stones and having sex with their body or going out and getting drunk .... seems to not be any ground rules set for what you can do... Or just the random make-out scenes on the ship for no apparent reason.
If I had to make one large criticism, it would be having the communication stones at all. You lose some of the sense of being isolated and the immediacy when you can just pop back to Earth to visit whenever you want, or bring in specialists to help fix shit, etc. I just think the whole IOA stuff is going to write yourself into a dead end fairly quickly unless you want to keep harping on removing Young for umpteen seasons.
MMO's aren't exempt from the rule that games based on television usually suck because they rely too heavily on the lore to make people happy. I'm sure there will be some people who will get a thrill out of picking up a quest from O'neill, but that isn't me.
Also, I don't expect the best dialogue from a game, but it should be decent. I would expect something that is going to get a lot of exposure, like the trailer, wouldn't have writing that bad.
I think the saddest part about failed MMOs is -- when it's an existing franchise that people love and would like an MMO for -- it ends up tying up the MMO license for years ... in which case it will be years more after that to see the next company release (if any).
Ex: Starwars Galaxies came out and was terrible, and it's taken 8 years to see a new MMO come out.
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edited December 2009
I really liked SG:1. Wasn't a big fan of SG:A. I rather enjoy SG:U. To some people that math doesn't add up I suppose. :P
Hell, I think I would like a SG:U styled game. Not so much an MMO, but a game in which you get a random assortment of crew members/skills and need to survive on a derelict alien spaceship for perhaps a fix'd length of time. Heh, I guess you could say I'd like a Dwarf Fortress: IN SPAAAAACE.
Which, by the way, SG:U isn't Stargate Galactica, it's Stargate: Dwarf Fortress. It's only a matter of time before one of them gets taken by a "fell mood" and locks themselves in a workshop. :P
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Does locking yourself inside a little shuttle count?
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I really liked SG:1. Wasn't a big fan of SG:A. I rather enjoy SG:U. To some people that math doesn't add up I suppose. :P
Hell, I think I would like a SG:U styled game. Not so much an MMO, but a game in which you get a random assortment of crew members/skills and need to survive on a derelict alien spaceship for perhaps a fix'd length of time. Heh, I guess you could say I'd like a Dwarf Fortress: IN SPAAAAACE.
Which, by the way, SG:U isn't Stargate Galactica, it's Stargate: Dwarf Fortress. It's only a matter of time before one of them gets taken by a "fell mood" and locks themselves in a workshop. :P
Space Station 13 is pretty close to a dwarf fortress is SPAAAACE, plus it's online. Just with less fell moods and more people knocking you out with a toolbox then transplanting your brain into a monkey.
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From the gameplay video's I've seen it's doesn't look anything like Tabula Rasa's combat. It looks significantly slower, plus it's driven with a pointer just like every other MMORPG.
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The fact that they are keeping this game under such tight wraps makes me believe that it isn't very close to done, or that it isn't very good, or maybe both. If they were having a spectacular beta process, we'd be seeing shit all over the place hyping it up. As it stands now, the only game info I can find online is severely dated.
Ouch. That's up to 64 days. I can't imagine that's good news.
I've heard that developers are leaving due to lack of, you know, payment. If they bail, their creditors end up with the assets, including the game, right? Hope springs eternal I suppose.
Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if this thing dies before release.
http://www.stargateresistance.com/
So, uh, I guess if that sells it'll help fund the MMO.
It kind of had my attention when they mentioned "fighting for dominance of areas", but apparently that's market speak for "imagine that playing CTF is helping you to take over this planet (Which is actually a small death-match level like any other online FPS.) in the name of the SGC/Goaul'd".
Edit: The company that made Gods and Heroes died because someone in their executive department was a complete and utter frig-witted moron, who decided to cancel a game when it was gold and ready to be released after a year of beta-testing, and even more years of development.
Isn't this the same company that announced a Firefly MMO, then like a year later put it on hold to concentrate on the Stargate MMO?
Then again, Star Trek started with a tiny no-name company too...
Keep in mind that the same people who would let these guys have the rights to develop a Stargate game are, probably, the same ones who decided that canceling the current reasonably popular and well-grounded SG series in favor of Universe was a good idea.
The idea behind Stargate: Universe is, for the record, that it has nothing in common with the original Stargate series, in hopes that it'll bring in an entirely new fanbase in place of the one they have now.
As an example of the stupidity involved with the franchise currently, there has been some outrage and confusion from at least one writer of the current series, that the original fanbase of the series outright hates Universe for having nothing to do with Stargate. Apparently they can't grasp the concept that making a TV show have nothing to do with the series it's named after is not going to garner viewers of the original show.
Needless to say, the people controlling the direction of the series now aren't the brightest bulbs in the room.
I think that sums it up nicely, because that's exactly what it is. As for this studio and MMO: It's dead Jim.
Except the people controlling the direction of the series now are the same people who have always controlled the direction of the series.
Glassner is the only one of the original writers/producers who still isn't on board and he has been gone for a long time (he left at the end of season 3). The show left Showtime at the end of Season 5 and I'm sorry but if you feel like the show went "downhill" in seasons 6-8 (lets ignore 9,10 for now; no one on the show had expected to be renewed after 8) then Stargate simply isn't for you because the first few Scifi years were among the best the series ever had to offer, if not the best.
Yes, SG:U is of questionable content and quality; I frequently feel like it has nothing at all to do with Stargate and is constantly jarring whenever they even mention previous events in SG because they don't seem part of the same universe, and yes Mallozzi is a complete douche (this has always been the case if you watch any commentary on the DVD's on episodes he did), but it's a little silly to act like something magically changed with the people who run the show.
Same people. Always has been.
The irony is, several of the producers have complained in the past about how Showtime had pushed them to make things more edgy and mature (see original Children of the Gods); yet now with SG:U they're making what Showtime probably would have liked in the first place....purposefully.
EDIT: Also the cancellation of SG:A was a joint decision by all parties involved. The writers/producers were getting bored of the same old shit (and lets be honest; season 5 of SG:A was terrible, so that's a fair assessment), SciFi was getting annoyed that despite the increase in ratings SG:A had over SG:1 (initially at least), it wasn't bringing in any new viewers to their lineup unlike other shows like BSG, and MGM was getting tired of how increasingly expensive producing episodes was getting (despite heavy budget cuts in season 5) vs the complete lack of increase in viewership/revenue. They all wanted to go a different direction. Unfortunately that direction wasn't where, it would appear, the vast majority of old SG fans want to go; but it's not like SG:U is hurting for ratings and viewers. Many of us old school stalwarts continue to watch it out of stubbornness or out of loyalty. And honestly it's not all bad. It has its moments and it could turn into something really good. Whether it turns into a Stargate show at any point remains to be seen.
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Battlestar Galactica was wildly popular, and is overall considered to be a good show. So why knock SGU automatically, simply because it's using a similar narrative technique?
The biggest issue of course is this: SGU is a *Character drama*, NOT a scifi action show like a lot of the fanbase wanted, I guess. There is nothing inherently wrong with it, it's just different from previous Stargate series -- hence why it's a new series with its own name.
The show isn't without problems -- but I think that has more to do with the writers needing to hit their groove with the new narrative style. I think some of the stuff is utterly unnecessary though ... like that whole club scene in Life where they kept concentrating on the club. Or the can of worms with using the Stones and having sex with their body or going out and getting drunk .... seems to not be any ground rules set for what you can do... Or just the random make-out scenes on the ship for no apparent reason.
If I had to make one large criticism, it would be having the communication stones at all. You lose some of the sense of being isolated and the immediacy when you can just pop back to Earth to visit whenever you want, or bring in specialists to help fix shit, etc. I just think the whole IOA stuff is going to write yourself into a dead end fairly quickly unless you want to keep harping on removing Young for umpteen seasons.
Also, I don't expect the best dialogue from a game, but it should be decent. I would expect something that is going to get a lot of exposure, like the trailer, wouldn't have writing that bad.
/groan
Ex: Starwars Galaxies came out and was terrible, and it's taken 8 years to see a new MMO come out.
Hell, I think I would like a SG:U styled game. Not so much an MMO, but a game in which you get a random assortment of crew members/skills and need to survive on a derelict alien spaceship for perhaps a fix'd length of time. Heh, I guess you could say I'd like a Dwarf Fortress: IN SPAAAAACE.
Which, by the way, SG:U isn't Stargate Galactica, it's Stargate: Dwarf Fortress. It's only a matter of time before one of them gets taken by a "fell mood" and locks themselves in a workshop. :P
Eli is taken by a fell mood! Eli has claimed 'the shuttle'! Eli has created: 'The Ever Silvered Star'! This is a Kino. All crawfstmanship is of the highest quality. It is studded with Naquida. On the item is an image of a Scientist. The Scientist is eating.
Space Station 13 is pretty close to a dwarf fortress is SPAAAACE, plus it's online. Just with less fell moods and more people knocking you out with a toolbox then transplanting your brain into a monkey.