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Ubisoft busting out the online DRM beams
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In a fit of retardation, Ubisoft are busting out one of the most annoying DRM schemes I've seen in a while. Full low-down is here:
http://support.uk.ubi.com/online-services-platform/
But choice quotations:
It's like they took a look at steam and decided "Hey, that's a pretty good idea - let's make it worse!"
Is anybody as cheesed off by this as I am, being a person who lives with internet that regularly fails?
In a fit of retardation, Ubisoft are busting out one of the most annoying DRM schemes I've seen in a while. Full low-down is here:
http://support.uk.ubi.com/online-services-platform/
But choice quotations:
Is there an "off-line" option?
No. The added services to the game (unlimited installs, online storage of saved games and the fact that you don’t need the game disc to play) require you to have an online connection while playing the game.
What will happen if I lose my Internet connection when I play the game?
If you lose your Internet connection the game will pause while it tries to reconnect. If the Internet Connection is unable to resume you can continue the game from where you left off or from the last saved game.
Will this system be available for every Ubisoft game?
Most upcoming Ubisoft PC games will make use of this system.
It's like they took a look at steam and decided "Hey, that's a pretty good idea - let's make it worse!"
Is anybody as cheesed off by this as I am, being a person who lives with internet that regularly fails?
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Assassin's Creed II is gonna have this, isn't it?
God damnit.
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A cracked version will actually be the only version you can play when offline. HOW RAD IS THAT
YES GUYS THE BEST WAY TO STOP PEOPLE PIRATING YOUR SOFTWARE IS TO MAKE IT THE ONLY OPTION WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE INTERTUBES
Also this:
So if I don't save often during a long play session or the game doesn't autosave I could lose hours of progress? Bullshit.
Also how are unlimited install and online saves added services? Last time I checked I can install the rest of my games as many times as I want. Why would I even want to upload my save files?
I have no doubt this will be cracked wide open, just punishing the consumer.
- DRM is necessary > flamewar
- DRM is evil > flamewar
- This isn't bad at all you whiner > flamewar
- PC gaming is dying > flamewar
- PC gamers are pirates and this was brought on by yourselves > flamewar
- PC gamers are entitled bitches > flamewar
Let me know if I missed anything.
Actually I pretty much just watted so hard when I read the terms and conditions I felt I had to share this to see if it wasn't just me who thought it was jaw-droppingly dumbo-stupid.
Well like I said, most people on the Steam thread seem to feel it's equally retarded. You're not the only one who feels this is yet another stupid attempt at DRM that misses the point. Problem is when you try to convince other people there's inevitable some guy who'll come in and spout off the usual kick off lines about "necessary measures, protecting investments" and "stop complaining about nothing", other people say that's not what the issue is or start off flaming poster number 1, and then the whole thing usually descends into RAAAAAAAGGGGEEEEEE.
Still pretty stupid, though. Somebody over there needs to learn the definition of "BTO vulnerability"
Why, it's almost as if we've seen this before.
Several times.
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Great success!
Made me regret paying $100 (damn you, Australia) a lot less.
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When Blizzard makes dumb decisions about how they're going to release SC2 its okay, because people are going to buy SC because its SC.
What game do they think they make where people are going to over look this and be like: welp it can't be that bad.
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Ooooo! I'd like to take options two, with the concession that four is happening. I'd also like to add six to make sure I fully instigate the flame war. Aaand I'll toss in a "console gaming is superior to PC gaming you guys are teh succk!" just to make sure.
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SC is mainly played online anyways..
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I just love how they consider unlimited installs and ability to play without a disc as 'added services'.
I think also that they hope such DRM will be annoying enough to crack that some people break down and buy the game before their DRM is broken.
There are other anti-piracy measures besides this. I mean Bioware went with installation limits on ME1. After feedback from the community they've removed those (and the online verification) for ME2, and are just going with a simple disc check. Similar with Bethesda and Fallout 3. Those are freaking huge titles too.
A more effective means of maximising your profit on the platform is to simultaneously ship, instead of delaying for months on end because of fears that piracy will kill your console sales as well. There's no point in waiting past the point where all the hype has gone, all the advertising's been forgotten, and there are new exciting games being released at the same time whilst nobody even knows you're releasing a new port.
Diablo3 or whatever else they have. You know what I mean.
You have to anyways
While install limits is a bad thing, I prefer online activation to disc checks. I'm lazy. Sometimes too lazy to get up from my chair to fetch a disc if I want to play a game and I thought it was really nice that ME1 didn't require having the disc in the drive.
There's steam for ME2 though, so all is good for lazy peewi.
Too bad those days are long gone, and it seems like the consumers even welcome all this new bullshit with open arms (yes, even on gaming elitist online groups such as these here).
Sometimes I wish I could get stuck in a Groundhog Day-esque time loop from 1990 to 2000.
Ah, those were the days.
See, when you install it, it detects if you're installing it to a computer. If it finds that you're installing the game to the computer it formats all HDDs and then shred-writes them, making data recovery near impossible.
I can conclusively say that this has stopped 100% of all pirates from pirating my game.
Unfortunately, Norton doesn't like my game :_(
Then Ubi announces that AC2 will be $60 on the PC...which is a bit confounding but no real loss to me since I'll just wait the obligatory 6 months before it goes on sale for $20 or less on Steam.
Then Ubi announces this...and well, now the game is out of the cards for me. I don't have permanent internet access. I can connect reliably for an hour or so a day. So, now my plan is to wait the whole thing out, and buy it a year or two down the line when either Ubi or some enterprising individuals strip this out. AC2 isn't even a multiplayer game so the incentive to leave the game pristine and grudgingly accept this simply isn't there.
Try a week, two weeks tops. I'm not even joking.
Example: to play this game you must pat your head while saying Ubisoft is king into the microphone.
Or did I read it wrong? There's a bullet point in the OP that says that if your internet dies during a session, you can keep playing? So I assume you need a DRM online check at the start of a session and then periodically throughout, but the starting one is the most important?
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Edit: cooljammer00, I had to read that bit over again as well, and I think it is saying that if your connection drops, it'll pause the game and try to reconnect. If that doesn't work, the game is borked until it can but you will be able to pick up from where you left off once everything is working again.
Your not purchasing the game lowers total sales.
Sales are only ever lower than expected because of piracy.
Therefore, stricter DRM is needed.