Blind Guardian have been doing their thing for over 20 years now. They were one of the pioneers of power metal and thus are a very original band. With respect to their other albums, A Night At The Opera is not particularly original.
I still think a lot of BGs stuff does do new things both musically and creatively, and they are a very important part of power metal.
As for other bands doing new stuff? I can't really think of any specific examples, but there has to be something going on. Maybe we're just entering a lull.
We're seeing a lot more symphonic stuff too. Most of it sounds bloody awful, though I do sort of fancy the lead singer of Epica, reagrdless of her musical worth.
We're seeing a lot more symphonic stuff too. Most of it sounds bloody awful, though I do sort of fancy the lead singer of Epica, reagrdless of her musical worth.
I kind of want to masturbate to that photo. Her hair is epic.
I almost feel bad for the punk thread, lasted 4 pages until it turned into a "what is punk" instead of band discussion.
I think starting a unique power metal band would be pretty tough. Not only do you need the skill of fast tight playing, but you also need unique ideas to make your work stand out.
Replace "unique power metal band" with "good band" and you're getting there.
I think the main problem Power Metal bands have is how incredible generic they are. I mean, the same can be applied to pretty much any metal: genres in metal have diversified so much that each individual genre has become very specific in its definition. And unfortunately, most musicians aim to write songs in a particular genre, rather than trying to write a piece of music. So what you get is lots of bands writing songs that tick a very specific set of boxes, and everything begins to sound hopelessly generic.
And oh my god if I hear one more metal song that modulates up a minor 6th to the chorus I'll rip someone's arm off.
Edit: Oh, and power metal singers (who, lets be honest, all want to be Dickinson or Halford) seem to have missed the point of why those two were good entirely. It wasn't because they could hit the high notes, or because they had killer vibrato, it was because they were just damn good singers. And 99.9% of power metal vocalists just go for the high notes, the vibrato, and forget about developing a distinctive voice and tone which is the important stuff.
I think the main problem Power Metal bands have is how incredible generic they are. I mean, the same can be applied to pretty much any metal: genres in metal have diversified so much that each individual genre has become very specific in its definition. And unfortunately, most musicians aim to write songs in a particular genre, rather than trying to write a piece of music. So what you get is lots of bands writing songs that tick a very specific set of boxes, and everything begins to sound hopelessly generic.
And oh my god if I hear one more metal song that modulates up a minor 6th to the chorus I'll rip someone's arm off.
Edit: Oh, and power metal singers (who, lets be honest, all want to be Dickinson or Halford) seem to have missed the point of why those two were good entirely. It wasn't because they could hit the high notes, or because they had killer vibrato, it was because they were just damn good singers. And 99.9% of power metal vocalists just go for the high notes, the vibrato, and forget about developing a distinctive voice and tone which is the important stuff.
i think angra's done a damn fine job of playing power metal (well, maybe power prog) without getting stuck on genre conventions. they still check the boxes, so to speak, but they do a good job of introducing unusual elements to their music.
and really, there are worse things than generic power metal. I'd take avantasia over a generic goregrind band any day.
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I think the main problem Power Metal bands have is how incredible generic they are. I mean, the same can be applied to pretty much any metal: genres in metal have diversified so much that each individual genre has become very specific in its definition. And unfortunately, most musicians aim to write songs in a particular genre, rather than trying to write a piece of music. So what you get is lots of bands writing songs that tick a very specific set of boxes, and everything begins to sound hopelessly generic.
And oh my god if I hear one more metal song that modulates up a minor 6th to the chorus I'll rip someone's arm off.
Edit: Oh, and power metal singers (who, lets be honest, all want to be Dickinson or Halford) seem to have missed the point of why those two were good entirely. It wasn't because they could hit the high notes, or because they had killer vibrato, it was because they were just damn good singers. And 99.9% of power metal vocalists just go for the high notes, the vibrato, and forget about developing a distinctive voice and tone which is the important stuff.
i think angra's done a damn fine job of playing power metal (well, maybe power prog) without getting stuck on genre conventions. they still check the boxes, so to speak, but they do a good job of introducing unusual elements to their music.
and really, there are worse things than generic power metal. I'd take avantasia over a generic goregrind band any day.
Bands need to start thinking about theory a little more. I'd like to think Prog Metal is taking a step in the right direction using different theory and avenues to write a solid piece of music. I'd like to think this.
Taco Bell does win the franchise war according to the tome of knowledge that is Demolition Man. However, I've watched Demolition Man more then a few times and never once did I see WoW. In conclusion Taco Bell has more lasting power then WoW.
I think the main problem Power Metal bands have is how incredible generic they are. I mean, the same can be applied to pretty much any metal: genres in metal have diversified so much that each individual genre has become very specific in its definition. And unfortunately, most musicians aim to write songs in a particular genre, rather than trying to write a piece of music. So what you get is lots of bands writing songs that tick a very specific set of boxes, and everything begins to sound hopelessly generic.
And oh my god if I hear one more metal song that modulates up a minor 6th to the chorus I'll rip someone's arm off.
Edit: Oh, and power metal singers (who, lets be honest, all want to be Dickinson or Halford) seem to have missed the point of why those two were good entirely. It wasn't because they could hit the high notes, or because they had killer vibrato, it was because they were just damn good singers. And 99.9% of power metal vocalists just go for the high notes, the vibrato, and forget about developing a distinctive voice and tone which is the important stuff.
i think angra's done a damn fine job of playing power metal (well, maybe power prog) without getting stuck on genre conventions. they still check the boxes, so to speak, but they do a good job of introducing unusual elements to their music.
and really, there are worse things than generic power metal. I'd take avantasia over a generic goregrind band any day.
Bands need to start thinking about theory a little more. I'd like to think Prog Metal is taking a step in the right direction using different theory and avenues to write a solid piece of music. I'd like to think this.
I would like to think that as well. Too bad that to many prog metal bands it is interpreted as them needing to show off technical skill rather than skillful songwriting. The idea of theory going beyond the convention is lost on many of these. Still, the good examples which actually push the envelope are well appreciated.
Folk metal is just a somewhat ambiguous subgenre that takes into account different stylistic things like nature, Vikings (in Ensiferum's case), Pagan worship, etc. That and songs are usually sung in the band's native language instead of English, and feature elements of folk music to go along with whatever genre of metal they're combining it with. In Ensiferum's case I guess it'd be speed metal, I've read about them sounding like a folkier Children of Bodom.
Taco Bell does win the franchise war according to the tome of knowledge that is Demolition Man. However, I've watched Demolition Man more then a few times and never once did I see WoW. In conclusion Taco Bell has more lasting power then WoW.
I just got so much fucking metal from a friend of mine it's going to take months to go through all of it. However, right now my new favorites are Musta Surma and Kampfar.
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I'm happy that someone else is a fan of UneXpect besides myself. I tried getting one of my friends to listen to their _wE Invaders EP and they were like "wtf is this circus metal?"
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The more laws and order are made prominent,
The more thieves and robbers there will be.
-Lao-tzu
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that band sucks.
The I record is fucking good. I've been listening to it for about a week now. I admit I'm a sucker for "blackened" rock/metal stuff, but I think it's really good.
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I meant musically. And there are lots of rock songs based on Tolkien's works.
As for other bands doing new stuff? I can't really think of any specific examples, but there has to be something going on. Maybe we're just entering a lull.
Which is usually disastrous (see power metalcore)
We're seeing a lot more symphonic stuff too. Most of it sounds bloody awful, though I do sort of fancy the lead singer of Epica, reagrdless of her musical worth.
CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
But mostly DECAPITATION ATTACK!
Somebody give me some similar bands to Lake of Tears.
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
Replace "unique power metal band" with "good band" and you're getting there.
And oh my god if I hear one more metal song that modulates up a minor 6th to the chorus I'll rip someone's arm off.
Edit: Oh, and power metal singers (who, lets be honest, all want to be Dickinson or Halford) seem to have missed the point of why those two were good entirely. It wasn't because they could hit the high notes, or because they had killer vibrato, it was because they were just damn good singers. And 99.9% of power metal vocalists just go for the high notes, the vibrato, and forget about developing a distinctive voice and tone which is the important stuff.
He only has 3, and the second is Prophet Of The Last Eclipse.
i think angra's done a damn fine job of playing power metal (well, maybe power prog) without getting stuck on genre conventions. they still check the boxes, so to speak, but they do a good job of introducing unusual elements to their music.
and really, there are worse things than generic power metal. I'd take avantasia over a generic goregrind band any day.
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Bands need to start thinking about theory a little more. I'd like to think Prog Metal is taking a step in the right direction using different theory and avenues to write a solid piece of music. I'd like to think this.
I would like to think that as well. Too bad that to many prog metal bands it is interpreted as them needing to show off technical skill rather than skillful songwriting. The idea of theory going beyond the convention is lost on many of these. Still, the good examples which actually push the envelope are well appreciated.
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Aquarius Records has Erotik in stock, in case any of you kvlties have dough to burn.
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
My buddy just told me about them but I haven't heard anything yet.
I actually am pretty interested in that. Is that what you meant by "folk"?
Eh, I'll try to get my hands on a couple songs before I think about purchasing anything.
MySpace with some songs.
More myspace goodness.
I love Folk too. Recently discovered Manegarm and they're awesome.
Also Moonsorrow, Falkenbach, (some) Bathory.
Yeah, Bathory's viking stuff is incredible.
I also hear good things about Vintersorg but I havent had a chance to check them out yet.
You'll feel better.
Damn good with an odd twist. This should still be considered folk, right?
Imagine the soundtrack that goes on inside Chucky's little doll head during a murder spree. I love these guys, but some might find it.... cheesy?
The more thieves and robbers there will be.
-Lao-tzu
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that band sucks.
The I record is fucking good. I've been listening to it for about a week now. I admit I'm a sucker for "blackened" rock/metal stuff, but I think it's really good.