I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I like it a lot now.
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
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What I'm saying is that the video for that song appeals to me on an entirely two-dimensional level.
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Yeah, and she deconstructs pop by providing pure pop with no subtexts.
Mmm...oh god I am relating this to Bhabha's post-colonialist text on mimicry where mimicry becomes menace through the slippage of the mimicry and the reversed gaze of the other and I don't entirely get the theory yet but is this kind of what you are driving at. Purposefully undermining pop by mimicking pop so much it falls apart?
(much like modern art, which I mostly hate, as well)
generally this is a good indication that someone is wrong
How so? Unless I'm using the wrong term for things like a wall of nails being called "art."
Not all modern art is pointless. The term applies to a general thesis, not a specific technique.
Well, I'm just sure what term to apply to it, then.
Lady Gaga's dresses are self-characterized as "art," correct? If so, then I have disliked every bit of "art" I have ever seen her wear.
I still think there are parts of the modern art movement that is basically pointless.
There are parts of every art movement that are pointless. The only reason you don't see much of the Renaissance trash is because over the last 500-600 years it's been lost/destroyed 'cause it was trash. There are examples of good modern art as well.
That, and I'd describe Lady Gaga as pop art, not modern art.
Well, define "pointless." As in, "This piece does nothing to further the ****** movement" or "This piece is just stupid and badly done."
I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I should sub-out gay and put in queer. Classic queer ideals challenge normal heteronormative standards. So frat boys singing really flashy, girly, poppy, bowie-esque songs does something for challenging the hetero-status-quo. I hate you for making me type sentences like that. My realm is science. 8-)
I get what you are saying. In the handful of songs of her's I haven't really heard her challenge heternormative ideals, but then again I've listened to a very small sample of her music. Most of it seemed very standard "get rich, get famous, conspicuous consumption, fuck boys"
I don't know, I don't see that at all. A much more common theme seems to be: "Get captured, go through some kind of rebirth, pretend to accept new life, murder people"
Paparazzi, Bad Romance, and Telephone all follow that arc.
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I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I like it a lot now.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I have realised that I used the incorrect word, and apologize.
If I give you Grammar!Danzig, will you leave me alone? :P
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I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I like it a lot now.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I have realised that I used the incorrect word, and apologize.
If I give you Grammar!Danzig, will you leave me alone? :P
i don't know what that means.
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
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What I get from Lady Gaga is that we need to kill the Jew liberals who control the media.
I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
Well, define "pointless." As in, "This piece does nothing to further the ****** movement" or "This piece is just stupid and badly done."
Both. Subjectively, of course.
Time is really the only thing that can really tell in any lasting way what is pointless and what isn't.
Ok. I just tend to be kinda jaded towards some more recent "art" pieces, like the wall of nails thing, or that one piece where a guy starved a dog to death and called it "art."
I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I like it a lot now.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I have realised that I used the incorrect word, and apologize.
If I give you Grammar!Danzig, will you leave me alone? :P
i don't know what that means.
I believe the word I was aming for was askew - "Turned or twisted to one side".
Oh, I'm thinking of reducto ad absurdum Reductionism.
Sorry.
Ah! Yes I can certainly see the possibility or reducto ad absurdum in her work. I guess it can just be hard to tell when something is actually just embodying something or is parodying it, especially if you don't pay close attention. Lady gaga doesn't agree with me aurally (nor is pop something I need to see reduced into an absurd, as it is already an absurd for me), however, so no close listenings for me.
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Oops, sorry Var, forgot about you and SC!
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PasserbyeI am much older than you.in Beach CityRegistered Userregular
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Ok, watched the Paparazzi video.
Gotta say it seems like the same shallow material as 99% of all the other pop music out there.
Does she have a song which actually supports her pro-LGBT causes?
I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I like it a lot now.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I have realised that I used the incorrect word, and apologize.
If I give you Grammar!Danzig, will you leave me alone? :P
i don't know what that means.
I believe the word I was aming for was askew - "Turned or twisted to one side".
Eschew means to shun or avoid.
yes i know what eschew means
what i don't know is what the fuck "grammar!danzig" is
I didn't like Truman Show when it came out. This is because the marketing portrayed it as another wacky Jim Carrey comedy, and my expectations were badly eschewed.
I like it a lot now.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I have realised that I used the incorrect word, and apologize.
If I give you Grammar!Danzig, will you leave me alone? :P
i don't know what that means.
I believe the word I was aming for was askew - "Turned or twisted to one side".
Eschew means to shun or avoid.
yes i know what eschew means
what i don't know is what the fuck "grammar!danzig" is
Have you ever heard of the concept of a Grammar Nazi?
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I like it a lot now.
One for each nip.
The difference is that no one buys the CD when the fad is ironic. It's not advertising.
Like rain on your wedding day?
He seems like a pretty private person, which I respect.
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Maybe so, but the initial claim was, in fact, "no one talks about Katy Perry anymore."
But I heard that was lucky.
But she cry-cry-cries in her lonely heart.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vvBAONkYwI
Mmm...oh god I am relating this to Bhabha's post-colonialist text on mimicry where mimicry becomes menace through the slippage of the mimicry and the reversed gaze of the other and I don't entirely get the theory yet but is this kind of what you are driving at. Purposefully undermining pop by mimicking pop so much it falls apart?
Well, define "pointless." As in, "This piece does nothing to further the ****** movement" or "This piece is just stupid and badly done."
Basically
whenever something super popular crops up that I find terrible, I assume people are liking it ironically.
Or maybe they like it ironically so much that they actually like, but in an ironic manner.
Or maybe they like irony so much that they like the terrible thing unironically.
On the black screen
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
wait, define subtext for me...
because I do not think i'm using the same definition as you.
I don't know, I don't see that at all. A much more common theme seems to be: "Get captured, go through some kind of rebirth, pretend to accept new life, murder people"
Paparazzi, Bad Romance, and Telephone all follow that arc.
Uh, no, there are other ways to deconstruct things Fuzzy.
Also what exactly is she deconstructing? What binary?
I have realised that I used the incorrect word, and apologize.
If I give you Grammar!Danzig, will you leave me alone? :P
Both. Subjectively, of course.
Time is really the only thing that can really tell in any lasting way what is pointless and what isn't.
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i don't know what that means.
Holy shit, someone e-mail Glenn Beck he'd EAT THAT SHIT UP!
Sorry.
hope I die tomorrow guns blazin'
Really? Bowie is...pretty gay! And I love the shit out of him, but he's always struck me as towing that line.
I mean, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VrqCBsbeuc
On the black screen
GOOD LORD. POSTING THIS IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM.
one of his good ones yeahhhhhh
Ok. I just tend to be kinda jaded towards some more recent "art" pieces, like the wall of nails thing, or that one piece where a guy starved a dog to death and called it "art."
That kind of thing? Pretty sure it's pointless.
Needs more Boom Boom Satellites. Or the pillows.
I believe the word I was aming for was askew - "Turned or twisted to one side".
Eschew means to shun or avoid.
Now we'll never get Airplane 3.
Ah! Yes I can certainly see the possibility or reducto ad absurdum in her work. I guess it can just be hard to tell when something is actually just embodying something or is parodying it, especially if you don't pay close attention. Lady gaga doesn't agree with me aurally (nor is pop something I need to see reduced into an absurd, as it is already an absurd for me), however, so no close listenings for me.
Gotta say it seems like the same shallow material as 99% of all the other pop music out there.
Does she have a song which actually supports her pro-LGBT causes?
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yes i know what eschew means
what i don't know is what the fuck "grammar!danzig" is
Nope, now we'll just get a remake with Freddie Prinze Jr. as Ted Stryker!
Pfft you missed some huge arguments.
On a totally unrelated note, I can't wait till the next time I get to play you in chess online.
Have you ever heard of the concept of a Grammar Nazi?
it's all good, I'm there if you want to play.
me and feral did a 1v1.