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[chat]ical illusion

Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C ERegistered User regular
edited March 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
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There are three colors in this picture: red, orange, and green. There is no blue in this picture. Your brain is tricking itself, or something.

This is one of the most stunning optical illusions I've ever seen.

Seriously, copy it into Paint or something and compare the green and "blue" colors. They are the exact same color.

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  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    that was quick

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yes, this is a repost from last night, I don't care, it's awesome.

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Podly wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I was going to say that manhattans are a waste of whiskey

    but then I remembered that I used to drink manhattans

    when I was 19.

    You don't mix a quality whiskey, so there's nothing getting wasted.

    Rye whiskey is better than scotch and it also makes the best cocktails in the world.

    Are you saying for a Manhattan or in general? You could be right about the former, I've only mixed one myself, but the latter would make you a madman.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yes VH this is a great theme. Also i was there when this was talked about last night so it's like I never left.

    Someone get Morninglord in here, stat!

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    on why i don't like gin, from the last thread cause it was locked real fast

    i feel bad because gin is the "classy" alcohol and is in LOTS of "classy/ic" drinks

    i tried for a year to enjoy it and i just can't

    then again i think it is my "got sick on it alcohol"

    LONG STORY SHORT: at an upscale bar, friends and i all ordered martinis (i think). they were like "man this is not good" and I was like like "well fine i will drink all the martinis instead of letting them go to waste"

    oh god bad idea

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    VH.

    Do my homework for me.

    I don't want to.

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I may or may not have been poised ready to spring with this post when Irond Will locked the previous [chat] thread.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    Evil Multifarious wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    Evil Multifarious wrote: »
    my question is therefore: if the nature of reality as we perceive or experience it leads you to conclude that there is a realm of forms, how then does the nature of the realm of forms not lead you to conclude that there must be an even more fundamental level of reality, and indeed, an infinite regress of such realities?

    Pretty sure Aristotle argues something like this against Plato / Socrates. Except my brain hurts so I can't remember where.

    I think universals / forms are utilized to explain similarity. So there is only an infinite regress insofar as similarity need be explained. So once we go from red to redness, the only other step we would have to do is for there to be a Form of Forms, the form shared by all forms. or a universal of universals, the quality "universal" which is shared by all universals.

    After that there's nothing which requires an infinite regress.

    If we're going with an ontology or metaphysics of forms, not just the "explain similarity" bit, then we can get into self-evidence as a stopping point. Once we get to a self-evident truth, that can maintain itself and there is nothing "behind" it which would suggest an infinite regress.

    i am curious as to the quality of a truth which is self-evident such that it can maintain itself without resorting to "it just is."

    or "it just [strike]is[/strike]" in some cases.

    i am also curious as to the nature of the process of instantiation, and how it occurs; how does the immaterial interact with the material (which is the central problem of dualism, as I recall it)?

    Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to articulate "there are self-evident truths" in a manner which addresses, well, someone saying "no there are not". Basically it gets into an argument about certainty and something to the effect if "If you make a statement, have a thought, or in any way utilize, engage with, or discern discrete particulars of understanding / language, this is only possible by an appeal to certainty or self-evidence."

    That's just my thesis, though. There's a shit ton of pages I need to write on that which I never get around to doing because i'm arguing on forums or being depressed.


    Instantiation of incorporeal with corporeal is the sort of thing that gets danced around. The classic example is "form posited onto matter" in the manner in which, say, your first posits a form onto clay. Of course you say that your first is material and the clay is material, so they can interract.

    Short of just saying "PINEAL GLAND" I think what one has to do is construct an ontology such that there is a relation between the immaterial and the material, sort of like how Spinoza does with his parallelism of the thought attribute and the extended attribute of a substance.

    You're right that "immaterial substance" interracting with "extended substance" is impossible, given the definition of substance.

    The trick, I think, is to play with the definition of "interract" such that when we say redness is "in" the apple we mean something such that there can be material and red, yet not violate the interraction criteria.

    Again, though. That's just a thesis. The actual argument would be insane.


    Edit: NOt trying to taint the [chat], I just took the time to write this so wanted to post it.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    stop lying to my eyes jerk

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.
    We should meet up, just to spite them.

    Are you still West Coasty?

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Gin is tasty.

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ms. Platypus was at an after-work open bar last week and ended up drinking Oban 18 year with a bunch of older gentlemen.

    She is now considered a "very classy lady" by the male population at the office.

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.

    YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited March 2010
    no, podly

    i meant what museum would you recommend we hit up

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    if you dudes go to moma, the first room you go into has cezanne's bather on a pillar. Look at that for a few minutes. And then turn to your left and and behold Les Demoiselle Des Avignon. It is a truly awe-some experience.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    visiblehowl wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.
    We should meet up, just to spite them.

    Are you still West Coasty?

    Yeah but this week I'm East Coasty.

    So It Goes on
  • FeralFeral ＭＥＭＥＴＩＣＨＡＲＩＺＡＲＤ interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    _J_ wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to articulate "there are self-evident truths" in a manner which addresses, well, someone saying "no there are not". Basically it gets into an argument about certainty and something to the effect if "If you make a statement, have a thought, or in any way utilize, engage with, or discern discrete particulars of understanding / language, this is only possible by an appeal to certainty or self-evidence."

    I'm perfectly comfortable with nothing being Certain.

    Edit: In fact I find Certainty, in the philosophical sense, to be rather absurd. I also find Truth, in the philosophical sense, to be absurd.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    visiblehowl wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.
    We should meet up, just to spite them.

    Are you still West Coasty?

    no she is getting all upitty but she got to go to Boston

    I didn't even get to do that

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    tapeslinger wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.

    YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

    Is this party at your place on Friday? There better not be alcohol present miss!

    So It Goes on
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to articulate "there are self-evident truths" in a manner which addresses, well, someone saying "no there are not". Basically it gets into an argument about certainty and something to the effect if "If you make a statement, have a thought, or in any way utilize, engage with, or discern discrete particulars of understanding / language, this is only possible by an appeal to certainty or self-evidence."

    I'm perfectly comfortable with nothing being Certain.

    *ahem*

    Are you certain of that?

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    anyways, I ordered some gin drinks for SIG on friday and i think she liked them

    corpse reviver #2 and a kind of shitty martinez

    i had to tell the bartender how to mix both of them. I think she liked them.

    some other good gin drinks are the negroni and the aviation (or casino). Even the humble gin and tonic is about as good as you are going to get from a highball.

    I don't like martinis, myself.

    I especially don't care for super-dry martinis. It strikes me as a silly affectation

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Sarksus is very visually interesting.

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  • FeralFeral ＭＥＭＥＴＩＣＨＡＲＩＺＡＲＤ interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    _J_ wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm still trying to figure out how to articulate "there are self-evident truths" in a manner which addresses, well, someone saying "no there are not". Basically it gets into an argument about certainty and something to the effect if "If you make a statement, have a thought, or in any way utilize, engage with, or discern discrete particulars of understanding / language, this is only possible by an appeal to certainty or self-evidence."

    I'm perfectly comfortable with nothing being Certain.

    *ahem*

    Are you certain of that?

    I'm certain of it.
    I'm not Certain of it.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    visiblehowl wrote: »
    I may or may not have been poised ready to spring with this post when Irond Will locked the previous [chat] thread.

    VH always waiting...

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited March 2010
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I was going to say that manhattans are a waste of whiskey

    but then I remembered that I used to drink manhattans

    when I was 19.

    You don't mix a quality whiskey, so there's nothing getting wasted.

    Rye whiskey is better than scotch and it also makes the best cocktails in the world.

    Are you saying for a Manhattan or in general? You could be right about the former, I've only mixed one myself, but the latter would make you a madman.

    rye is a pretty great mixing ingredient.

    i'd probably argue for gin's prominance, but whiskey is a close second.

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  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The last time somebody posted an optical illusion in [chat] all the people that didn't get it were labeled idiots. Good times.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    how can a martini be dry it is made of liquid

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    homps

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    tapeslinger wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Look if I'm not present nobody is allowed to meet up. Period.

    YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD

    Is this party at your place on Friday? There better not be alcohol present miss!

    technically it's at nex's
    but I live 6 doors away from there so

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Podly wrote: »
    Mojo_Jojo wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I was going to say that manhattans are a waste of whiskey

    but then I remembered that I used to drink manhattans

    when I was 19.

    You don't mix a quality whiskey, so there's nothing getting wasted.

    Rye whiskey is better than scotch and it also makes the best cocktails in the world.

    Are you saying for a Manhattan or in general? You could be right about the former, I've only mixed one myself, but the latter would make you a madman.

    In general. Rye > Scotch, and the sazerac 18 -- which can be purchased for only $50 if you get it retail, is the best whiskey in the world.

    And this guy agrees with me.

    http://cocktailenthusiast.com/2009/12/01/whisky-bible-names-sazerac-rye-worlds-best-whiskey/

    saying that Sazerac 18yo is better than the audberg supernova

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    how can a martini be dry it is made of liquid

    a wizard did it

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I should explain the RNA acronym in the Extremist thread, but fuck it.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »

    I don't like martinis, myself.

    I especially don't care for super-dry martinis. It strikes me as a silly affectation

    Super-dry is kind of plebby from what I understand, but really I can't drink a Martini any other way. I have accepted that they are not for me.

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I majored in Philosophy, and I still have no idea what the hell you guys are talking about sometimes.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    Elendil wrote: »
    how can a martini be dry it is made of liquid

    THANK YOU!

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    wazilla wrote: »
    The last time somebody posted an optical illusion in [chat] all the people that didn't get it were labeled idiots. Good times.

    Look if the shoe fits...

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    wazilla wrote: »
    The last time somebody posted an optical illusion in [chat] all the people that didn't get it were labeled idiots. Good times.

    Which one was that?

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    optical illusions huh

    I don't understand

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