I ended up with 3 beta codes. One I used, one I gave to pretty much my bro in rl and one went to Tarranon. Because he asked first and I was talking to him on Steam. Plus his is my SupCom 2 partner most of the time so figured he deserved.
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That gearn fellow doesn't seem like he's long for this forum. He is the exuding the "gonna have a massive flipout" mentality.
Also he is doing that thing where instead of actually addressing other people's points he demands to know what qualifications they have and where they obtained them, which suggests he has some insecurities about the strength of his arguments.
So I went to a talk on the pratice of medicine, by someone extremley respected in the field. It was scary as hell. Example which sticks out is one of her PHD students did a study on those who'd recently had a stroke which had paralyzed their ability to swallow.
Of the 30 selected for the study (they were all 50 plus mind), one survived. The one who surivived discharged himself two days in. The rest were quite literally just left on drips to starve to death because they'd have 'no quality of life'. Of course this wasn't made explicitly clear to the patients families. One quote was by a junior consultant who was shaken up by this to one of the senior consultants, pretty much saying 'it's been four weeks and she's still hanging around, what do I do?' the response was 'stay the course, it won't be long now'. She lived for three more weeks. Oh, and all these patients were conscious for the duration.
So I went to a talk on the pratice of medicine, by someone extremley respected in the field. It was scary as hell. Example which sticks out is one of her PHD students did a study on those who'd recently had a stroke which had paralyzed their ability to swallow.
Of the 30 selected for the study (they were all 50 plus mind), one survived. The one who surivived discharged himself two days in. The rest were quite literally just left on drips to starve to death because they'd have 'no quality of life'. Of course this wasn't made explicitly clear to the patients families. One quote was by a junior consultant who was shaken up by this to one of the senior consultants, pretty much saying 'it's been four weeks and she's still hanging around, what do I do?' the response was 'stay the course, it won't be long now'. She lived for three more weeks. Oh, and all these patients were conscious for the duration.
So I went to a talk on the pratice of medicine, by someone extremley respected in the field. It was scary as hell. Example which sticks out is one of her PHD students did a study on those who'd recently had a stroke which had paralyzed their ability to swallow.
Of the 30 selected for the study (they were all 50 plus mind), one survived. The one who surivived discharged himself two days in. The rest were quite literally just left on drips to starve to death because they'd have 'no quality of life'. Of course this wasn't made explicitly clear to the patients families. One quote was by a junior consultant who was shaken up by this to one of the senior consultants, pretty much saying 'it's been four weeks and she's still hanging around, what do I do?' the response was 'stay the course, it won't be long now'. She lived for three more weeks. Oh, and all these patients were conscious for the duration.
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If you're under 40 they're far more likely to help, by the time you hit 50 treatment begins to go down by orders of magnitudes for every ten (and then five) years.
So I went to a talk on the pratice of medicine, by someone extremley respected in the field. It was scary as hell. Example which sticks out is one of her PHD students did a study on those who'd recently had a stroke which had paralyzed their ability to swallow.
Of the 30 selected for the study (they were all 50 plus mind), one survived. The one who surivived discharged himself two days in. The rest were quite literally just left on drips to starve to death because they'd have 'no quality of life'. Of course this wasn't made explicitly clear to the patients families. One quote was by a junior consultant who was shaken up by this to one of the senior consultants, pretty much saying 'it's been four weeks and she's still hanging around, what do I do?' the response was 'stay the course, it won't be long now'. She lived for three more weeks. Oh, and all these patients were conscious for the duration.
How can that be legal? Even leaving aside all the other horrifying things about it, starvation is an extremely painful way to die. I don't understand how a doctor could be allowed to starve their patient to death.
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edited April 2010
For some weird reason my iphone only shows up under "My Computer" every second time I connect it.
I figure there isn't a whole lot they can do to prevent it. They could put them on a nutrient drip but eventually it won't matter, they will probably just wither away. No matter what it is horrible being stuck in your body and unable to do anything yet still thinking. Horrible horrible way to go. I think it rates up there with being eaten alive.
I figure there isn't a whole lot they can do to prevent it. They could put them on a nutrient drip but eventually it won't matter, they will probably just wither away. No matter what it is horrible being stuck in your body and unable to do anything yet still thinking. Horrible horrible way to go. I think it rates up there with being eaten alive.
Even with euthanasia laws, they can still drug them up to brain-damaging levels rather than leave them to rot.
I consider long-term locked-in syndrome to be worse than being eaten alive or really almost any other sort of torture.
It's possibly the worst thing a person can experience.
I only experienced it for maybe about 15 minutes and that experience was harrowing and traumatic.
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edited April 2010
Our legislation regarding voluntary euthanasia is being shaken right now by the case of a 30 something year old who can't do anything except communicate through eye movements (or something similar). She's been in that state for well over a decade and wrote a letter to authorities asking them to cut the machine off and let her die in peace.
I figure there isn't a whole lot they can do to prevent it. They could put them on a nutrient drip but eventually it won't matter, they will probably just wither away. No matter what it is horrible being stuck in your body and unable to do anything yet still thinking. Horrible horrible way to go. I think it rates up there with being eaten alive.
Even with euthanasia laws, they can still drug them up to brain-damaging levels rather than leave them to rot.
Problem is people can come out of it after an extended period and you don't know if they will or if they will just drop dead. It isn't like someone turns into a vegetable they just are basically stuck in a body that is completely paralyzed.
I figure there isn't a whole lot they can do to prevent it. They could put them on a nutrient drip but eventually it won't matter, they will probably just wither away. No matter what it is horrible being stuck in your body and unable to do anything yet still thinking. Horrible horrible way to go. I think it rates up there with being eaten alive.
Uh, they can either put a tube down the nose to feed them (incredibly uncomfortable, but standard practice as it's much easier to remove, and requires less official oversight), or a 'peg', in the side which is far more effective, but surgical. These patients only had a parlyzed throat, not body.
I couldn't tell you the exact reason they can do it RBB. Medical practice law isn't exactly my field, but I believe it's to do with it not being direct intervention, and the fact that whilst patients can order these if they want to, they're systematically discouraged from doing so.
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EDIT: So don't, okay? Don't do fifteen fucking horrible puns in a row this time
Okay, fine, we'll strangle the quote tree in its crib.
/slashies!
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mostly symbolic, but I have no way of retrieving the codes anymore either so
Also he is doing that thing where instead of actually addressing other people's points he demands to know what qualifications they have and where they obtained them, which suggests he has some insecurities about the strength of his arguments.
Most of his time here seems to be arguing with Evander. It's probably to be expected.
He just PMed me an "invite" to the "Consumers to Apple" thread.
Of the 30 selected for the study (they were all 50 plus mind), one survived. The one who surivived discharged himself two days in. The rest were quite literally just left on drips to starve to death because they'd have 'no quality of life'. Of course this wasn't made explicitly clear to the patients families. One quote was by a junior consultant who was shaken up by this to one of the senior consultants, pretty much saying 'it's been four weeks and she's still hanging around, what do I do?' the response was 'stay the course, it won't be long now'. She lived for three more weeks. Oh, and all these patients were conscious for the duration.
locked-in syndrome
another delightful argument against a loving god
Sinsiter goattee.
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Hi 5!
about 10-20 minutes or so
it's... well, i mean when i was a child hell was described to me as this place of horror and pain where you are tortured for eternity
pretty sure that i've experienced that
no
thank
you
i have nightmares about it still
Am I supposed to install both the Tales of the Sword Coast AND DirectX8 patch, or just the latest TotSC patch (and no DX8 patch)?
I don't think it matters too much. The DX8 patch is for multiplayer. But I cannot seem to find an answer.
If you're under 40 they're far more likely to help, by the time you hit 50 treatment begins to go down by orders of magnitudes for every ten (and then five) years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-y0MdPXslo
the nurses were all aflutter and waiting on me hand and foot and coming in just to talk to me
but before i let that inflate my ego i had to consider i was like, half the age of the youngest guy in the ward
they probably don't see a lot of that
How can that be legal? Even leaving aside all the other horrifying things about it, starvation is an extremely painful way to die. I don't understand how a doctor could be allowed to starve their patient to death.
It's possibly the worst thing a person can experience.
I only experienced it for maybe about 15 minutes and that experience was harrowing and traumatic.
Problem is people can come out of it after an extended period and you don't know if they will or if they will just drop dead. It isn't like someone turns into a vegetable they just are basically stuck in a body that is completely paralyzed.
Uh, they can either put a tube down the nose to feed them (incredibly uncomfortable, but standard practice as it's much easier to remove, and requires less official oversight), or a 'peg', in the side which is far more effective, but surgical. These patients only had a parlyzed throat, not body.
I couldn't tell you the exact reason they can do it RBB. Medical practice law isn't exactly my field, but I believe it's to do with it not being direct intervention, and the fact that whilst patients can order these if they want to, they're systematically discouraged from doing so.
you motherfucker
Let's get him!
If closed, one button, bottom, right?
I think top button.
i'll hit the legs
you hit above the navel
Thanks. And uh is it right over left for a dude or left over right? I hardly ever wear this coat.