I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
The older I get the less patience I have for this rah-rah the man is always wrong silliness.
I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
I still don't see why they felt the need to raid his home, personally. I mean, if they're going to press felony charges against him, he posted all the information about how he got the phone on Gizmodo. Not hard to really look that shit up.
But what other things may he have illegally purchased? Only one way to find out.
And they're allowed to raid your office before anything has been charged, when this is specifically dealing with the iPhone, which has been returned already by Gizmodo?
I thought that if they wanted to see if he purchased anything else illegally, they'd have to actually file charges first.
You have to get warrants to collect evidence, and you need evidence to file charges. (I mean, you could file charges with no evidence, but that's probably not going to work out too well in terms of getting the right person)
Let's say they believe Chen and the seller arranged the deal via emails sent from his home laptop (maybe the seller told them that, for instance). Then they have probable cause to believe there is evidence related to the crime in his home, and they tell a judge, and he signs a warrant, and they go and collect the evidence, and Chen whines like a babby about a "raid".
It just seems like a whole lot of trouble when they already posted how they got it online. Seems kind of redundant to actually seize his computers and servers when they already know he paid $5000 for it from some guy who contacted them.
Unless they're trying to press charges against the guy who found the phone, which would technically be covered under that shield law, right?
Dog you don't seem to understand how criminal cases are built on evidence and how more and better evidence is always useful.
No, I don't. Since Gizmodo openly talked about the whole iPhone debacle on their own website, disclosing how much they paid for it, who received it. How long they had it for, what happened in regards to it, etc.
Just seems like overkill when the evidence is right there without a police raid.
Hypothetical: They claim they made it all up.
You're the lazy prosecutor who figured why gather any other evidence, you have no evidence other than the story they now say was made up. You're royally boned
I guess that means that Apple isn't filing the charges, and this is being done completely by the police? I'm assuming that Apple's emails with contact information with Gizmodo would be dismissible as evidence if Gizmodo claims they made it all up, including testimonies about how the one engineer lost the iPhone originally and how Apple received the prototype back from Gizmodo?
I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
Steve Jobs has a lot of cool gadgets and a belt he keeps them on.
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I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
Steve Jobs has a lot of cool gadgets and a belt he keeps them on.
Steve Jobs dresses in black so he can confuse criminals easily.
I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
Steve Jobs has a lot of cool gadgets and a belt he keeps them on.
Steve Jobs dresses in black so he can confuse criminals easily.
Steve Jobs knows that a symbol can be more than any one man.
I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
Steve Jobs has a lot of cool gadgets and a belt he keeps them on.
Steve Jobs dresses in black so he can confuse criminals easily.
I made my man but I cannot summon the energy to write his backstory.
You had been using your immense power to fight people at the local pub and win money from the bets.
One day you saw a highwayman riding down a dusty road. A fair maiden begged you to stop the thief, but you couldn't be bothered to waste his time on petty criminals.
Later that same highwayman thrust his rapier through the heart of your Uncle. From that day you swore to do what was right.
He would punch her the fuck out for having such an inefficient system of connecting nervous systems.
He would redesign the Asari mind-connections, package it out in shiny white while Justin Long waxed poetic about how easy it was to create mind babies with, and make a billion trillion dollars.
He would punch her the fuck out for having such an inefficient system of connecting nervous systems.
He would redesign the Asari mind-connections, package it out in shiny white while Justin Long waxed poetic about how easy it was to create mind babies with, and make a billion trillion dollars.
He would punch her the fuck out for having such an inefficient system of connecting nervous systems.
He would redesign the Asari mind-connections, package it out in shiny white while Justin Long waxed poetic about how easy it was to create mind babies with, and make a billion trillion dollars.
fencing stolen property is al kinds of illegal coke
Apple could ask them to please not charge them and it wouldn't make a whiff of difference
Not what I'm asking.
I guess that means that Apple isn't filing the charges, and this is being done completely by the police? I'm assuming that Apple's emails with contact information with Gizmodo would be dismissible as evidence if Gizmodo claims they made it all up, including testimonies about how the one engineer lost the iPhone originally and how Apple received the prototype back from Gizmodo?
I still don't see why they felt the need to raid his home, personally. I mean, if they're going to press felony charges against him, he posted all the information about how he got the phone on Gizmodo. Not hard to really look that shit up.
But what other things may he have illegally purchased? Only one way to find out.
And they're allowed to raid your office before anything has been charged, when this is specifically dealing with the iPhone, which has been returned already by Gizmodo?
I thought that if they wanted to see if he purchased anything else illegally, they'd have to actually file charges first.
You have to get warrants to collect evidence, and you need evidence to file charges. (I mean, you could file charges with no evidence, but that's probably not going to work out too well in terms of getting the right person)
Let's say they believe Chen and the seller arranged the deal via emails sent from his home laptop (maybe the seller told them that, for instance). Then they have probable cause to believe there is evidence related to the crime in his home, and they tell a judge, and he signs a warrant, and they go and collect the evidence, and Chen whines like a babby about a "raid".
It just seems like a whole lot of trouble when they already posted how they got it online. Seems kind of redundant to actually seize his computers and servers when they already know he paid $5000 for it from some guy who contacted them.
Unless they're trying to press charges against the guy who found the phone, which would technically be covered under that shield law, right?
Dog you don't seem to understand how criminal cases are built on evidence and how more and better evidence is always useful.
No, I don't. Since Gizmodo openly talked about the whole iPhone debacle on their own website, disclosing how much they paid for it, who received it. How long they had it for, what happened in regards to it, etc.
Just seems like overkill when the evidence is right there without a police raid.
Hypothetical: They claim they made it all up.
You're the lazy prosecutor who figured why gather any other evidence, you have no evidence other than the story they now say was made up. You're royally boned
I guess that means that Apple isn't filing the charges, and this is being done completely by the police?
It isn't necessary for anyone to press charges for the police to investigate a crime.
I'm assuming that Apple's emails with contact information with Gizmodo would be dismissible as evidence if Gizmodo claims they made it all up, including testimonies about how the one engineer lost the iPhone originally and how Apple received the prototype back from Gizmodo?
"Hey man we found it on the street that guy who says we bought it is just trying to deflect attention"
Look, when you are investigating a crime there isn't a set amount of evidence that is "enough". If you think there is evidence that either reinforces or contradicts what you have, you go get it too. And you get a judge to give you the ability to get it if you can't legal get it otherwise, like if it's in someone's house.
I still don't see why they felt the need to raid his home, personally. I mean, if they're going to press felony charges against him, he posted all the information about how he got the phone on Gizmodo. Not hard to really look that shit up.
But what other things may he have illegally purchased? Only one way to find out.
And they're allowed to raid your office before anything has been charged, when this is specifically dealing with the iPhone, which has been returned already by Gizmodo?
I thought that if they wanted to see if he purchased anything else illegally, they'd have to actually file charges first.
You have to get warrants to collect evidence, and you need evidence to file charges. (I mean, you could file charges with no evidence, but that's probably not going to work out too well in terms of getting the right person)
Let's say they believe Chen and the seller arranged the deal via emails sent from his home laptop (maybe the seller told them that, for instance). Then they have probable cause to believe there is evidence related to the crime in his home, and they tell a judge, and he signs a warrant, and they go and collect the evidence, and Chen whines like a babby about a "raid".
It just seems like a whole lot of trouble when they already posted how they got it online. Seems kind of redundant to actually seize his computers and servers when they already know he paid $5000 for it from some guy who contacted them.
Unless they're trying to press charges against the guy who found the phone, which would technically be covered under that shield law, right?
Dog you don't seem to understand how criminal cases are built on evidence and how more and better evidence is always useful.
No, I don't. Since Gizmodo openly talked about the whole iPhone debacle on their own website, disclosing how much they paid for it, who received it. How long they had it for, what happened in regards to it, etc.
Just seems like overkill when the evidence is right there without a police raid.
Hypothetical: They claim they made it all up.
You're the lazy prosecutor who figured why gather any other evidence, you have no evidence other than the story they now say was made up. You're royally boned
I guess that means that Apple isn't filing the charges, and this is being done completely by the police? I'm assuming that Apple's emails with contact information with Gizmodo would be dismissible as evidence if Gizmodo claims they made it all up, including testimonies about how the one engineer lost the iPhone originally and how Apple received the prototype back from Gizmodo?
He would punch her the fuck out for having such an inefficient system of connecting nervous systems.
He would redesign the Asari mind-connections, package it out in shiny white while Justin Long waxed poetic about how easy it was to create mind babies with, and make a billion trillion dollars.
I just don't see why police would want to collect evidence. And why they would take it themselves instead of politely asking suspects to incriminate themselves. That just seems so mean! I bet Steve Jobs made them be mean!
ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
His parents are dead.
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
Steve Jobs has a lot of cool gadgets and a belt he keeps them on.
Steve Jobs dresses in black so he can confuse criminals easily.
Steve Jobs knows that a symbol can be more than any one man.
Steve Jobs is not dead, he's just been displaced in time.
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ThomamelasOnly one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered Userregular
edited April 2010
Alright, I now have a real copy of the PHB and the Martial Power book. Oh and Forza 3. And I managed to do some ice skating with the girl.
I made my man but I cannot summon the energy to write his backstory.
You had been using your immense power to fight people at the local pub and win money from the bets.
One day you saw a highwayman riding down a dusty road. A fair maiden begged you to stop the thief, but you couldn't be bothered to waste his time on petty criminals.
Later that same highwayman thrust his rapier through the heart of your Uncle. From that day you swore to do what was right.
I know his backstory, I'm just too lazy to write it.
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ummmmm we've been over this Steve Jobs takes care of business his own way.
Yeah I figured :P
I'm still making my way throught he Player's Handbooks. Too many choices! So many cool things!
His parents are dead.
It's you becoming a conservative.
It is a fate that will befall all.
What sort of things are striking you so far?
Now that I have..acquired..a copy of the Player's handbook, I may spend some of my weekend reading it and going over core mechanics and whatnot.
PSN: Corbius
Steve Jobs refuses to kill. Steve Jobs always brings his man to justice. Steve Jobs has a butler who attends to his every need. Steve Jobs hangs out with 12 year old boys and asks them if they're dense, if they're goddamned retarded or something.
I don't see how this is one of them.
Now whether or not the police were overstepping their boundaries when they raided the place, that's a different argument, and entirely possible.
I guess that means that Apple isn't filing the charges, and this is being done completely by the police? I'm assuming that Apple's emails with contact information with Gizmodo would be dismissible as evidence if Gizmodo claims they made it all up, including testimonies about how the one engineer lost the iPhone originally and how Apple received the prototype back from Gizmodo?
Steve Jobs has a lot of cool gadgets and a belt he keeps them on.
Given the nature of the crime and of the investigation, as far as I can tell they weren't.
Steve Jobs dresses in black so he can confuse criminals easily.
Steve Jobs knows that a symbol can be more than any one man.
To Bill Brasky!
Wait...what?
You had been using your immense power to fight people at the local pub and win money from the bets.
One day you saw a highwayman riding down a dusty road. A fair maiden begged you to stop the thief, but you couldn't be bothered to waste his time on petty criminals.
Later that same highwayman thrust his rapier through the heart of your Uncle. From that day you swore to do what was right.
fencing stolen property is al kinds of illegal coke
Apple could ask them to please not charge them and it wouldn't make a whiff of difference
He would punch her the fuck out for having such an inefficient system of connecting nervous systems.
He would redesign the Asari mind-connections, package it out in shiny white while Justin Long waxed poetic about how easy it was to create mind babies with, and make a billion trillion dollars.
They would not have sex.
What kind of man?
I'm still waffling.
Yeah, but how much would she want him in italics?
Like not even a little.
Not what I'm asking.
It isn't necessary for anyone to press charges for the police to investigate a crime.
"Hey man we found it on the street that guy who says we bought it is just trying to deflect attention"
Look, when you are investigating a crime there isn't a set amount of evidence that is "enough". If you think there is evidence that either reinforces or contradicts what you have, you go get it too. And you get a judge to give you the ability to get it if you can't legal get it otherwise, like if it's in someone's house.
Only the government presses criminal charges.
Aw. Really, ma'am?
Steve Jobs is not dead, he's just been displaced in time.
Thanks.
Wow, long time no see GS.
And no I don't. I was thinking about getting it when I get my Xbox 360 repaired.
No such thing as overkill
I know his backstory, I'm just too lazy to write it.
Also spiderman fucking sucks.