Hmmm. Thinking about it, I guess I usually create female avatars or choose the female character option, even in games that are played in first person perspective.
My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?
the question was "why do you play a girl character" and someone was like "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours"
and people are like "damn dude stop slobberin' ya perv"
but then it got sucked into the feedback of "women are temples don't actually say they are pretty or you are a monster who is one day going to serial rape and murder young women"
dude that is not what we are saying at all
I am just pointing out that the initial statement of "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours" is a pretty sexist thing to say because it implies that in this context the male character exists not to provide sexual satisfaction yet the female avatar does
what
no, it means the male character won't provide sexual satisfaction for that person
which is not surprising for a heterosexual male!
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My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?
the question was "why do you play a girl character" and someone was like "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours"
and people are like "damn dude stop slobberin' ya perv"
but then it got sucked into the feedback of "women are temples don't actually say they are pretty or you are a monster who is one day going to serial rape and murder young women"
dude that is not what we are saying at all
it is humorous hyperbole
I am just pointing out that the initial statement of "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours" is a pretty sexist thing to say because it implies that in this context the male character exists not to provide sexual satisfaction yet the female avatar does
man this is totally circular
anything can be 'for' that purpose if it has that effect, via this logic
god, i love when women swallow my cum. it is great, and when i find myself growing closer to a woman it's an activity i encourage.
ergo in my opinion women are meant to swallow my cum and any other use they have is just ancillary
Hmmm. Thinking about it, I guess I usually create female avatars or choose the female character option, even in games that are played in first person perspective.
Listen if you make a woman character in a game that makes you a gay because being a woman as a man in a game is a gayness unto gaynessism. FACT. QED. MVEMJSUNP.
My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?
the question was "why do you play a girl character" and someone was like "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours"
and people are like "damn dude stop slobberin' ya perv"
but then it got sucked into the feedback of "women are temples don't actually say they are pretty or you are a monster who is one day going to serial rape and murder young women"
dude that is not what we are saying at all
I am just pointing out that the initial statement of "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours" is a pretty sexist thing to say because it implies that in this context the male character exists not to provide sexual satisfaction yet the female avatar does
what
no, it means the male character won't provide sexual satisfaction for that person
I am making a note of the number of posts along the lines of 'I'm a dude and I use a female avatar to con other dudes out their phat lootz' because god damn, assholes, way to make it even more difficult to be a female on the internet.
Did you ever read the SA saga on doing this in EQ back many years ago? It's amazing and hilarious in it's patheticness of the male population.
No, and it probably was kind of funny, but it also leads to guys on the internet going absolutely fucking nuts on anyone who has the temerity to act detectably female online, because that means you "want attention". You can't possibly just be being yourself.
Raar.
I was once guilded with a girl in WoW that was like "Hey, can one of you help me with a quest?" and like, 4 people jumped on her "WHAT? YOU CAN'T DO IT YOURSELF!" so I responded with "Sure, I'll help." "WHITE KNIGHT! WHITE KNIGHT!"
Like, what the fuck just happened?
And I'm not saying that men posing as women to exploit the male population, and females doing it themselves, don't exist in games. But it's not everyone and you can spot the attention whores with a little practice.
I make female characters sometimes because why the hell not? Mostly in games where there's lots of voice acting and what not, so I can get the other half of the recorded dialog. Case in point: Mass Effect.
Is it sexist if I make, say, a healer or other fragile character female because I think the female voice actor's cries of pain are more likely to evoke the kind of response I want from the tank/dps/etc.?
My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?
the question was "why do you play a girl character" and someone was like "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours"
and people are like "damn dude stop slobberin' ya perv"
but then it got sucked into the feedback of "women are temples don't actually say they are pretty or you are a monster who is one day going to serial rape and murder young women"
dude that is not what we are saying at all
I am just pointing out that the initial statement of "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours" is a pretty sexist thing to say because it implies that in this context the male character exists not to provide sexual satisfaction yet the female avatar does
what
no, it means the male character won't provide sexual satisfaction for that person
I have way more of a problem with the number of posts along the lines of 'I'm a dude and I use a female avatar to con other dudes out their phat lootz' because god damn, assholes, way to make it even more difficult to be a female on the internet.
There's an officer in my WoW guild who describes himself as a 'machoist' with pride. (Which isn't even a goddamned word!) He demands that he give me free loot, gear, crafting materials...
For months on end I would say "Seriously, no, what are you doing, charge me for that, I'm tipping you, what are you doing."
Finally he threw a temper tantrum saying that I hated him and he was just trying to be nice and he cried on Vent and everyone chided me for being mean.
Now I take the free stuff and now everyone chides me for taking free stuff.
Hmmm. Thinking about it, I guess I usually create female avatars or choose the female character option, even in games that are played in first person perspective.
I don't really know why I do this.
I do it because you already play a male in 95% of games in which you don't get the choice.
Did you see my Cutethulhu pictures? You should check them out since you're such a Pokemon fan.
No way man, there's cleavage in one picture. That's totally objectifing your girl. He'll get all self righteous.
There's cleavage in nearly ALL her pictures. In face, the last picture with her drinking from her martini with Cutethulhu shows more than that first one that people keep referring to.
I make female characters sometimes because why the hell not? Mostly in games where there's lots of voice acting and what not, so I can get the other half of the recorded dialog. Case in point: Mass Effect.
Is it sexist if I make, say, a healer or other fragile character female because I think the female voice actor's cries of pain are more likely to evoke the kind of response I want from the tank/dps/etc.?
I don't know if it's sexist, but it's sure as hell creepy.
That said, I played both ME1 and 2 with female partners the whole way through because I wanted to be a Space Pimp.
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and before you guys say "Well hurf durf Its cause i am attracted to women hurf durf"
that is not the point
the point is yes you can be attracted to women that is fine
but when one gender option is picked preferentially because it is sexually stimulating in a game where sexual stimulation is not the end goal,
that
is
sexism
EDIT: fuck i was too slow
I don't really buy that. I mean, I know where you're coming from, but I tend to reserve the sexism claims for actual discrimination against actual people.
I mean, dude who's all DAT ASS probably is at least a bit sexist, but I'd wait to call him out until he started making fucking kitchen jokes at an actual female player or something.
Hmmm. Thinking about it, I guess I usually create female avatars or choose the female character option, even in games that are played in first person perspective.
I don't really know why I do this.
I do to.
I think it is because I like women.
This is not the reason I do it.
Maybe it's a holdover from the olden days when the male/female characters had different abilities and skillsets. For example, in the original Resident Evil the male was tougher and the female carried more stuff. The extra stuff was always the better option. Maybe the habit stuck?
I dont know if the DAT ASS argument is sexist but it's just so completely alien to me. I don't understand the logic. It'd be like if I played Mass Effect and romanced Jacob over and over again so I could watch Jacob's abs ripple as he takes Shepard into his arms oh god
I have way more of a problem with the number of posts along the lines of 'I'm a dude and I use a female avatar to con other dudes out their phat lootz' because god damn, assholes, way to make it even more difficult to be a female on the internet.
There's an officer in my WoW guild who describes himself as a 'machoist' with pride. (Which isn't even a goddamned word!) He demands that he give me free loot, gear, crafting materials...
For months on end I would say "Seriously, no, what are you doing, charge me for that, I'm tipping you, what are you doing."
Finally he threw a temper tantrum saying that I hated him and he was just trying to be nice and he cried on Vent and everyone chided me for being mean.
Now I take the free stuff and now everyone chides me for taking free stuff.
YOU CAN'T WIN.
I gave a girl in my old guild free stuff once because I was overflowing with it. Might have been enchanting mats or something, and she wigged out on me about the whole pandering to females thing like you brought up. Like, completely forgetting that I often give away free stuff to guildies. I still don't know what sparked that, but shit was I pissed.
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Shit, got busy. Sorry for late response.
I didn't see you at all yesterday in [chat].
Did you see my Cutethulhu pictures? You should check them out since you're such a Pokemon fan.
what
no, it means the male character won't provide sexual satisfaction for that person
which is not surprising for a heterosexual male!
that is not the point
the point is yes you can be attracted to women that is fine
but when one gender option is picked preferentially because it is sexually stimulating in a game where sexual stimulation is not the end goal,
that
is
sexism
EDIT: fuck i was too slow
it is humorous hyperbole
man this is totally circular
anything can be 'for' that purpose if it has that effect, via this logic
god, i love when women swallow my cum. it is great, and when i find myself growing closer to a woman it's an activity i encourage.
ergo in my opinion women are meant to swallow my cum and any other use they have is just ancillary
I do to.
I think it is because I like women.
this is an FPS NOT A GODDAM PORNO SHOOT
I was once guilded with a girl in WoW that was like "Hey, can one of you help me with a quest?" and like, 4 people jumped on her "WHAT? YOU CAN'T DO IT YOURSELF!" so I responded with "Sure, I'll help." "WHITE KNIGHT! WHITE KNIGHT!"
Like, what the fuck just happened?
And I'm not saying that men posing as women to exploit the male population, and females doing it themselves, don't exist in games. But it's not everyone and you can spot the attention whores with a little practice.
Why is sex bad again? I forget.
what
why do you get to say what the end goal is
my goal in playing a game is to enjoy myself
if that means flashy visuals or a compelling story or a raging hardon
man
i define my gaming experience
you goddamned fun-despot
No way man, there's cleavage in one picture. That's totally objectifing your girl. He'll get all self righteous.
Can't it be both? :winky:
There's an officer in my WoW guild who describes himself as a 'machoist' with pride. (Which isn't even a goddamned word!) He demands that he give me free loot, gear, crafting materials...
For months on end I would say "Seriously, no, what are you doing, charge me for that, I'm tipping you, what are you doing."
Finally he threw a temper tantrum saying that I hated him and he was just trying to be nice and he cried on Vent and everyone chided me for being mean.
Now I take the free stuff and now everyone chides me for taking free stuff.
YOU CAN'T WIN.
I do it because you already play a male in 95% of games in which you don't get the choice.
There's cleavage in nearly ALL her pictures. In face, the last picture with her drinking from her martini with Cutethulhu shows more than that first one that people keep referring to.
I kind of feel like Male Shepard also sounds kind of dead inside.
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yeah I saw the pictures...I had a fun (not fun) weekend
only good thing was I was able to go to a skatepark for the first time in forever, but that may have been a bad thing as i can barely walk now
I don't know if it's sexist, but it's sure as hell creepy.
That said, I played both ME1 and 2 with female partners the whole way through because I wanted to be a Space Pimp.
To be fair
"Oh, I'm definitely interested."
Well good for you, dead meat-thing.
I don't really buy that. I mean, I know where you're coming from, but I tend to reserve the sexism claims for actual discrimination against actual people.
I mean, dude who's all DAT ASS probably is at least a bit sexist, but I'd wait to call him out until he started making fucking kitchen jokes at an actual female player or something.
I find male shep is perfect for reflecting my smugness.
'You need to relax 8-) '
lulz
Seen it. That article was written by a self-absorbed idiot, just by the by
This is not the reason I do it.
Maybe it's a holdover from the olden days when the male/female characters had different abilities and skillsets. For example, in the original Resident Evil the male was tougher and the female carried more stuff. The extra stuff was always the better option. Maybe the habit stuck?
I genuinely don't know.
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but i am doing so under protest
you sexist motherfucker
I gave a girl in my old guild free stuff once because I was overflowing with it. Might have been enchanting mats or something, and she wigged out on me about the whole pandering to females thing like you brought up. Like, completely forgetting that I often give away free stuff to guildies. I still don't know what sparked that, but shit was I pissed.