I've had no problem picking up raging spirits on LK.
Granted, I'm not tanking the first two in either phase, and our rogues and hunters have been (is goaded the right word here?) into making sure to misdirect them onto the tank.
We have none anymore. My taunt missed yesterday. I'm even glyphed for it.
What's your hit at normally? It might be low enough so even with the glyph you'd be under 17% spellhit.
Loathe: Going from my Resto Druid to Shadow Priest. Instant queue to 30+ minutes! And no, healing on the priest is not an option.
Same with my DK, but going from tank to DPS. Pappa needs his Grinning Skull Boots, and the DPS will inevitable whine if the tank rolls on it.
Thats the other piece too. If I go into an instance as a healer I would feel bad rolling on DPS gear. Although Priest gear is basically the same either way. So, maybe thats a moot point.
Loathe: Going from my Resto Druid to Shadow Priest. Instant queue to 30+ minutes! And no, healing on the priest is not an option.
Same with my DK, but going from tank to DPS. Pappa needs his Grinning Skull Boots, and the DPS will inevitable whine if the tank rolls on it.
Thats the other piece too. If I go into an instance as a healer I would feel bad rolling on DPS gear. Although Priest gear is basically the same either way. So, maybe thats a moot point.
I don't know about anybody else, but I kinda stopped caring about being the tank and rolling on DPS gear about the same time I lost out on tanking boots to a DPS warrior (with the healer coming in second on the roll).
I've had no problem picking up raging spirits on LK.
Granted, I'm not tanking the first two in either phase, and our rogues and hunters have been (is goaded the right word here?) into making sure to misdirect them onto the tank.
We have none anymore. My taunt missed yesterday. I'm even glyphed for it.
What's your hit at normally? It might be low enough so even with the glyph you'd be under 17% spellhit.
1% too low with the glyph. I'm at about 15%, and we always have a dranei. I did get the boots from sindra last night though, so that should help immensely.
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Mutilate, AB and AV I think give the bestest xp (especially if you win). Avoid wsg @ that lvl. My shaman the same and WSG so far been full of 77+... not much fun being the lowbie target practice.
Love: 4 cap Eots last night. Just need to do it 2 more times....
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
When I'm not in a mood for healing for my daily heroic, I queue--unchecking healer first--as soon as I log on and then go do my fishing daily and AH runs. By the time I'm finished with one or both of those tasks the queue has popped.
When I'm not in a mood for healing for my daily heroic, I queue--unchecking healer first--as soon as I log on and then go do my fishing daily and AH runs. By the time I'm finished with one or both of those tasks the queue has popped.
I do this with both my prot/ret paladin and resto/elem shaman.
I like tanking and healing, it's why I leveled those characters, but sometimes it wears on you.
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
It's like night and day the difference between having healers and no healers. Especially WSG and to a lesser extent EotS.
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
It's like night and day the difference between having healers and no healers. Especially WSG and to a lesser extent EotS.
Seriously. One of the main reasons I stopped bothering with WSG was consistantly seeing an Alliance team bust out of a tunnel, with a tank warrior/paladin carrying the flag and flanked by two holy paladins and two trees.
And no, these typically weren't premades, unless they were coordinating it from different servers.
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
It's like night and day the difference between having healers and no healers. Especially WSG and to a lesser extent EotS.
Seriously. One of the main reasons I stopped bothering with WSG was consistantly seeing an Alliance team bust out of a tunnel, with a tank warrior/paladin carrying the flag and flanked by two holy paladins and two trees.
And no, these typically weren't premades, unless they were coordinating it from different servers.
I did an EotS the other day, and of the 8 alliance players assaulting my base at the start, 5 were resto druids, and 1 was a disc priest. It was a very D:D:D:D:D: moment. I should note, that despite the odds, we 4 based that alliance team.
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
It's like night and day the difference between having healers and no healers. Especially WSG and to a lesser extent EotS.
I won't deny it isn't helpful to have healers in BGs, nor the difference they make. My beef is with the people who whine when there isn't any or expect to be healed. Especially when it is hybreds that whine in all caps that someone should heal THEM.
Seriously. One of the main reasons I stopped bothering with WSG was consistantly seeing an Alliance team bust out of a tunnel, with a tank warrior/paladin carrying the flag and flanked by two holy paladins and two trees.
And no, these typically weren't premades, unless they were coordinating it from different servers.
Damn I am in the wrong alliance battlegroup! Cyclone horde are the ones that are usually stacked with healers.
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
It's like night and day the difference between having healers and no healers. Especially WSG and to a lesser extent EotS.
I won't deny it isn't helpful to have healers in BGs, nor the difference they make. My beef is with the people who whine when there isn't any or expect to be healed. Especially when it is hybreds that whine in all caps that someone should heal THEM.
Seriously. One of the main reasons I stopped bothering with WSG was consistantly seeing an Alliance team bust out of a tunnel, with a tank warrior/paladin carrying the flag and flanked by two holy paladins and two trees.
And no, these typically weren't premades, unless they were coordinating it from different servers.
Damn I am in the wrong alliance battlegroup! Cyclone horde are the ones that are usually stacked with healers.
Yeah, Nightfall Alliance seems to have it pretty easy in battlegrounds. You'd almost never lose AV and win more than lose in the other ones.
I'm in Nightfall Horde, and I find that I have the opposite experience. We win more than lose in almost every battleground.
This must be something new then. Everytime I've tried to do a BG (even after people have told me that it's changed), I always see something like the lines of the following:
AV: "Let's rush Vann, don't D!"
IoC: "Okay, half of you go Hangar, and the other half go Docks. Wait, the entire Alliance force went Docks?"
WSG: "Why protect the flag carrier/kill the enemy flag carrier when I can farm mid?"
AB: "What's this "fight on the flag" thing about? I want to farm people on the roads!"
EOTS: "Hey, lets all fight a couple of guys over the flag while we get 4 capped!"
Well, when I remember to have my tank gear with me when I queue for AV, the rush works.
As for the rest, my armory stats are showing a higher win than loss ratio. Again, it's just my experience.
true, mine show a higher win/loss ratio too, but I pvp'ed a lot more late TBC (after 3.0 and the achievement system hit), and late Naxx.
And I used to rush on Vann all the time, all too often I was the only person up there capping the flag while the rest of the team went on to hit Balinda. Then an Alliance recap team would come back and kill me so I'd end up rezzing at the cave.
On the occasion that we did get everybody up there, all too often the only healer(s) would be people trying to heal in offspecs or blue PVP gear.
I'm in Nightfall Horde, and I find that I have the opposite experience. We win more than lose in almost every battleground.
This must be something new then. Everytime I've tried to do a BG (even after people have told me that it's changed), I always see something like the lines of the following:
AV: "Let's rush Vann, don't D!"
IoC: "Okay, half of you go Hangar, and the other half go Docks. Wait, the entire Alliance force went Docks?"
WSG: "Why protect the flag carrier/kill the enemy flag carrier when I can farm mid?"
AB: "What's this "fight on the flag" thing about? I want to farm people on the roads!"
EOTS: "Hey, lets all fight a couple of guys over the flag while we get 4 capped!"
Strands: "I'm going to farm people on the beach"
I'm on Nightfall horde as well, and in my experience we do when more than we lose. IoC is a bit of a problem, but other than that we generally do well.
Lawl: I've been blowing up low level BGs on my heirloomed rogue with an ambush spec recently. At first I only expected to be effective against cloth and leather, turns out at low levels ambush goes right through mail also. It finally slowed down against pal/war in the 40's, but everyone else still gets destroyed.. but thats not the lawl...
nearly 1 shotting people is pretty boring, so I rolled up a cloth character and heirloomed them out and have been BGing it. A rogue with the same idea as mine came up and sapped me while I was riding across the field, then opened with an ambush that hit for 1,010 on my little level 35 self. Here comes the lawl...
i rolled a disc priest, having no idea how OP they are at low levels, after being almost 1 shot I killed a full health rogue 2 levels higher than me and ended with full health. Also that particular BG I was 2nd on the damage done list, and first by a long shot on the healing done.
Also that rogue after being defeated by me, appeared to be hunting me down for the rest of the BG, and she could never kill me solo, in one case she even had a hunter helping her, and while I died to the combo, she died to me first
I think priest may be my new favorite class, I used to like druid pvp healing, but when you've got 1 person attacking you, its really annoying to not be able to do any real damage to them at all. I could keep myself alive for ever, but they could keep annoying me forever too Seems with a priest the dots go along way in solving that problem.
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Love: ICC10 last night in a pug on my warrior tank
Love: Enough badges to replace essence gossamer
Love: Killed each boss up to val with ease (healers were great, dps was meh)
Loathe: Invited to group earlier yesterday, see other tank, gemming, spec, even glyphs were a mess "Your gs is to low" /boot.
Lol: Half hour later... "LFM healers".... half hour later... "LF2M DPS".... half hour later... "LF1MDPS"
My warriors gear isn't that bad, 245 badge/crafted items, ICC crafted, epic gems, the GOOD ICC 5 man pieces. Piss on you mr dk tank with blue def/str gemming and a mismatch of talents that avoids important ones. You are clearly superior with your 3 pieces of beginners t10 and "I've gone and made a mess" achievement. Bravo.
Loathe: Rawr's delicate balancing that suggests I re-gem everything when I get an upgrade on my warrior. I figure I'll match sockets as I gear up, then worry about re-gemming when I hit a certain threshold (all the 232/245 stuff I can get).
Loathe: Rawr's delicate balancing that suggests I re-gem everything when I get an upgrade on my warrior. I figure I'll match sockets as I gear up, then worry about re-gemming when I hit a certain threshold (all the 232/245 stuff I can get).
Is it a switch between armor pen and strength or something? :P
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I wish that someway, somehow, that I could save every one of us
Love: ICC10 last night in a pug on my warrior tank
Love: Enough badges to replace essence gossamer
Love: Killed each boss up to val with ease (healers were great, dps was meh)
Loathe: Invited to group earlier yesterday, see other tank, gemming, spec, even glyphs were a mess "Your gs is to low" /boot.
Lol: Half hour later... "LFM healers".... half hour later... "LF2M DPS".... half hour later... "LF1MDPS"
My warriors gear isn't that bad, 245 badge/crafted items, ICC crafted, epic gems, the GOOD ICC 5 man pieces. Piss on you mr dk tank with blue def/str gemming and a mismatch of talents that avoids important ones. You are clearly superior with your 3 pieces of beginners t10 and "I've gone and made a mess" achievement. Bravo.
Love: ICC10 last night in a pug on my warrior tank
Love: Enough badges to replace essence gossamer
Love: Killed each boss up to val with ease (healers were great, dps was meh)
Loathe: Invited to group earlier yesterday, see other tank, gemming, spec, even glyphs were a mess "Your gs is to low" /boot.
Lol: Half hour later... "LFM healers".... half hour later... "LF2M DPS".... half hour later... "LF1MDPS"
My warriors gear isn't that bad, 245 badge/crafted items, ICC crafted, epic gems, the GOOD ICC 5 man pieces. Piss on you mr dk tank with blue def/str gemming and a mismatch of talents that avoids important ones. You are clearly superior with your 3 pieces of beginners t10 and "I've gone and made a mess" achievement. Bravo.
Loathe: Rawr's delicate balancing that suggests I re-gem everything when I get an upgrade on my warrior. I figure I'll match sockets as I gear up, then worry about re-gemming when I hit a certain threshold (all the 232/245 stuff I can get).
Is it a switch between armor pen and strength or something? :P
Not even that, it's flopping between dodge and parry. And then I get another upgrade and it goes, "well, that's perfect now! Just do stamina in EVERYTHING."
Loathe: Rawr's delicate balancing that suggests I re-gem everything when I get an upgrade on my warrior. I figure I'll match sockets as I gear up, then worry about re-gemming when I hit a certain threshold (all the 232/245 stuff I can get).
Is it a switch between armor pen and strength or something? :P
Not even that, it's flopping between dodge and parry. And then I get another upgrade and it goes, "well, that's perfect now! Just do stamina in EVERYTHING."
I avoid this issue by just gemming Stamina in everything unless I'm shy on Defense.. then I gem Def/Stamina... because for the most part.. Socket Bonuses can kiss my butt.
This one is for you shaman I ran H.FoS with yesterday.
Upon zoning into H. FoS I see that my group consists of a Bear Tank, Priest Healer, Elemental Shammy and a Mage... wonderful for me, no one who should (reasonably) try and roll against me for my second Nighttime.
We start going and our elemental shammy is lagging behind, big time. We've done about 6 pulls and he is still at the start of the instance. Our tank (who is from the same guild) asks said shammy what is up, he says "Sexting with my GF, catch up with you in a couple mins".
... really?
No worries, we get to Brohnjam (or whatever his name is) and kill him, no Nighttime for me... we wait, and wait and wait... and the shammy doesn't roll. He misses his chance at the 22 slot bag and the shard as he is still AFK.
Queue the last boss up... I see the shammy running up the tunnel towards us (presumably so he makes 100% sure he doesn't miss his badges) and who does the Devourer cast mirrored soul on?
/evil grin
Queue army of the dead, and every other cooldown I can blow... See about 8 seconds later... a dead shaman.
Lament: I either have to get 2 sets of gear for my DK or settle on a crappy DPS set. One side of me says "Just get tank gear" but then the other side says "You also want to be able to be good at DPS"
Plus, going straight stamina reminds me of people who judge a tank only by health, which annoys me. I hate having to constantly heal a tank with almost 50k health when I've seen some with 10k less that require much less healing because they have more mitigation.
Love: More PvP upgrades, as well as some kick ass 264 mail SP bracers with haste and crit. Been waiting on those for a long time, we have been extending our raid to try and down the LK.
Looking forward to?: Some lucky drops in VoA this week for a ring or neck. If that happens my shaman will be a force.
Loathe: Not to much right now, but the guild is having some shitty attendance so we are dropping down to 3 nights.
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What's your hit at normally? It might be low enough so even with the glyph you'd be under 17% spellhit.
Thats the other piece too. If I go into an instance as a healer I would feel bad rolling on DPS gear. Although Priest gear is basically the same either way. So, maybe thats a moot point.
Lol: 76 druid trash talks me for getting flag at level 70 and of course losing it, he grabs the flag and drops in in even less time than me...
I don't know about anybody else, but I kinda stopped caring about being the tank and rolling on DPS gear about the same time I lost out on tanking boots to a DPS warrior (with the healer coming in second on the roll).
1% too low with the glyph. I'm at about 15%, and we always have a dranei. I did get the boots from sindra last night though, so that should help immensely.
Love: 4 cap Eots last night. Just need to do it 2 more times....
Loathe: People who nerd rage in BG's. Especially the ones that whine "OMFG we have no healers" srsly people, you want to be healed? Either reroll or lvl first aide.
I do this with both my prot/ret paladin and resto/elem shaman.
I like tanking and healing, it's why I leveled those characters, but sometimes it wears on you.
It's like night and day the difference between having healers and no healers. Especially WSG and to a lesser extent EotS.
Seriously. One of the main reasons I stopped bothering with WSG was consistantly seeing an Alliance team bust out of a tunnel, with a tank warrior/paladin carrying the flag and flanked by two holy paladins and two trees.
And no, these typically weren't premades, unless they were coordinating it from different servers.
and give you a high five.
I did an EotS the other day, and of the 8 alliance players assaulting my base at the start, 5 were resto druids, and 1 was a disc priest. It was a very D:D:D:D:D: moment. I should note, that despite the odds, we 4 based that alliance team.
Now I just need to fix my randomizer to stop giving me talbuks.
I won't deny it isn't helpful to have healers in BGs, nor the difference they make. My beef is with the people who whine when there isn't any or expect to be healed. Especially when it is hybreds that whine in all caps that someone should heal THEM.
Damn I am in the wrong alliance battlegroup! Cyclone horde are the ones that are usually stacked with healers.
Yeah, Nightfall Alliance seems to have it pretty easy in battlegrounds. You'd almost never lose AV and win more than lose in the other ones.
This must be something new then. Everytime I've tried to do a BG (even after people have told me that it's changed), I always see something like the lines of the following:
AV: "Let's rush Vann, don't D!"
IoC: "Okay, half of you go Hangar, and the other half go Docks. Wait, the entire Alliance force went Docks?"
WSG: "Why protect the flag carrier/kill the enemy flag carrier when I can farm mid?"
AB: "What's this "fight on the flag" thing about? I want to farm people on the roads!"
EOTS: "Hey, lets all fight a couple of guys over the flag while we get 4 capped!"
Strands: "I'm going to farm people on the beach"
As for the rest, my armory stats are showing a higher win than loss ratio. Again, it's just my experience.
I have no idea what your talking about :shifty:
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true, mine show a higher win/loss ratio too, but I pvp'ed a lot more late TBC (after 3.0 and the achievement system hit), and late Naxx.
And I used to rush on Vann all the time, all too often I was the only person up there capping the flag while the rest of the team went on to hit Balinda. Then an Alliance recap team would come back and kill me so I'd end up rezzing at the cave.
On the occasion that we did get everybody up there, all too often the only healer(s) would be people trying to heal in offspecs or blue PVP gear.
you prefer axe or matches?
I'm on Nightfall horde as well, and in my experience we do when more than we lose. IoC is a bit of a problem, but other than that we generally do well.
they are just goats with a saddle. but then I have been calling them that since I first saw them.
But then calling it the ghost donkey does seem to anger people
nearly 1 shotting people is pretty boring, so I rolled up a cloth character and heirloomed them out and have been BGing it. A rogue with the same idea as mine came up and sapped me while I was riding across the field, then opened with an ambush that hit for 1,010 on my little level 35 self. Here comes the lawl...
i rolled a disc priest, having no idea how OP they are at low levels, after being almost 1 shot I killed a full health rogue 2 levels higher than me and ended with full health. Also that particular BG I was 2nd on the damage done list, and first by a long shot on the healing done.
Also that rogue after being defeated by me, appeared to be hunting me down for the rest of the BG, and she could never kill me solo, in one case she even had a hunter helping her, and while I died to the combo, she died to me first
I think priest may be my new favorite class, I used to like druid pvp healing, but when you've got 1 person attacking you, its really annoying to not be able to do any real damage to them at all. I could keep myself alive for ever, but they could keep annoying me forever too
Took almost an entire year to get that fucking Chocolate Cake recipe to complete my achievement.
Fuck RNG.
Love: Enough badges to replace essence gossamer
Love: Killed each boss up to val with ease (healers were great, dps was meh)
Loathe: Invited to group earlier yesterday, see other tank, gemming, spec, even glyphs were a mess "Your gs is to low" /boot.
Lol: Half hour later... "LFM healers".... half hour later... "LF2M DPS".... half hour later... "LF1MDPS"
My warriors gear isn't that bad, 245 badge/crafted items, ICC crafted, epic gems, the GOOD ICC 5 man pieces. Piss on you mr dk tank with blue def/str gemming and a mismatch of talents that avoids important ones. You are clearly superior with your 3 pieces of beginners t10 and "I've gone and made a mess" achievement. Bravo.
Is it a switch between armor pen and strength or something? :P
I bet he had an awesome GS though.
At the end of the day, thats whats important. :P
Not even that, it's flopping between dodge and parry. And then I get another upgrade and it goes, "well, that's perfect now! Just do stamina in EVERYTHING."
I avoid this issue by just gemming Stamina in everything unless I'm shy on Defense.. then I gem Def/Stamina... because for the most part.. Socket Bonuses can kiss my butt.
This one is for you shaman I ran H.FoS with yesterday.
Upon zoning into H. FoS I see that my group consists of a Bear Tank, Priest Healer, Elemental Shammy and a Mage... wonderful for me, no one who should (reasonably) try and roll against me for my second Nighttime.
We start going and our elemental shammy is lagging behind, big time. We've done about 6 pulls and he is still at the start of the instance. Our tank (who is from the same guild) asks said shammy what is up, he says "Sexting with my GF, catch up with you in a couple mins".
... really?
No worries, we get to Brohnjam (or whatever his name is) and kill him, no Nighttime for me... we wait, and wait and wait... and the shammy doesn't roll. He misses his chance at the 22 slot bag and the shard as he is still AFK.
Queue the last boss up... I see the shammy running up the tunnel towards us (presumably so he makes 100% sure he doesn't miss his badges) and who does the Devourer cast mirrored soul on?
/evil grin
Queue army of the dead, and every other cooldown I can blow... See about 8 seconds later... a dead shaman.
I keep leveling alts who do more than 1 thing.
Plus, going straight stamina reminds me of people who judge a tank only by health, which annoys me. I hate having to constantly heal a tank with almost 50k health when I've seen some with 10k less that require much less healing because they have more mitigation.
Love: More PvP upgrades, as well as some kick ass 264 mail SP bracers with haste and crit. Been waiting on those for a long time, we have been extending our raid to try and down the LK.
Looking forward to?: Some lucky drops in VoA this week for a ring or neck. If that happens my shaman will be a force.
Loathe: Not to much right now, but the guild is having some shitty attendance so we are dropping down to 3 nights.