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The New COMIC Thread 06-04-10

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Holy shit, this comic is great.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The level of preparedness for an event like this was on par with their plans to defend against a unicorn attack.

    well that's easy

    you just call voldemort

    motherfucker just loves eating unicorns

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  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    FYI - as an oilfield worker, lots of shit with this BP blowout was fucked up.

    1. The Blowout Preventer (BOP) - Was rented out by Cameron (another international oilfield services company like Halliburton) with the express warning that that particular BOP was not 100% suited to the environment conditions that BP had planned on using it for, and had a high likelihood of failure. BP used it anyway.

    2. Circulation system - Wells are drilled in multiple stages, always lined with steel pipe called casing for each stage. These stages are supposed to be cemented in for isolation between pressure or hydrocarbon zones by differing diameters of casing. What I've been told occurred at the point of "blowout" (uncontrolled release of pressure), is that instead of using fluid dynamics to force the drilling fluid out of the annulus (the space between well bore and casing) and up to surface by the cement "pill", the call was made to flush the drilling fluid out with WATER. The whole idea of drilling fluid is that it's dense enough, due to additives and solubles, to contain whatever wellbore pressure is present. Water has none of this density, so almost immediately the well kicked back at them. The BOP failed to shut in the pressure (as per the equipment provider's warnings), and the secondary system at the rig floor failed as well.

    Now, this is mostly hearsay, but it does follow what I've leared from my 7-8 years of experience with drilling and oilfield work. Your first line of defense from the wellbore pressure is ALWAYS your circulation of drilling fluid. Fucking with that system is just begging for problems. Intentionally installing a emergency shut down system (the BOP) that was not intended to be used under that pressure at the sea floor is poor well planning. BP is pretty much fully at fault here for all of these situations. Government ensuring that they had an emergency spill response plan wouldn't have saved BP from fucking up the situation from the start.

    Diorinix on
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    Mmmmm....toasty.
  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Diorinix wrote: »
    FYI - as an oilfield worker, lots of shit with this BP blowout was fucked up.

    1. The Blowout Preventer (BOP) - Was rented out by Cameron (another international oilfield services company like Halliburton) with the express warning that that particular BOP was not 100% suited to the environment conditions that BP had planned on using it for, and had a high likelihood of failure. BP used it anyway.

    2. Circulation system - Wells are drilled in multiple stages, always lined with steel pipe called casing for each stage. These stages are supposed to be cemented in for isolation between pressure or hydrocarbon zones by differing diameters of casing. What I've been told occurred at the point of "blowout" (uncontrolled release of pressure), is that instead of using fluid dynamics to force the drilling fluid out of the annulus (the space between well bore and casing) and up to surface by the cement "pill", the call was made to flush the drilling fluid out with WATER. The whole idea of drilling fluid is that it's dense enough, due to additives and solubles, to contain whatever wellbore pressure is present. Water has none of this density, so almost immediately the well kicked back at them. The BOP failed to shut in the pressure (as per the equipment provider's warnings), and the secondary system at the rig floor failed as well.

    Now, this is mostly hearsay, but it does follow what I've leared from my 7-8 years of experience with drilling and oilfield work. Your first line of defense from the wellbore pressure is ALWAYS your circulation of drilling fluid. Fucking with that system is just begging for problems. Intentionally installing a emergency shut down system (the BOP) that was not intended to be used under that pressure at the sea floor is poor well planning. BP is pretty much fully at fault here for all of these situations. Government ensuring that they had an emergency spill response plan wouldn't have saved BP from fucking up the situation from the start.

    Maybe they should have used the Hanson Laboratories designed Maximum Magnitude Management Blowout Preventer instead.

    The Geek on
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  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    Diorinix wrote: »
    FYI - as an oilfield worker, lots of shit with this BP blowout was fucked up.

    1. The Blowout Preventer (BOP) - Was rented out by Cameron (another international oilfield services company like Halliburton) with the express warning that that particular BOP was not 100% suited to the environment conditions that BP had planned on using it for, and had a high likelihood of failure. BP used it anyway.

    2. Circulation system - Wells are drilled in multiple stages, always lined with steel pipe called casing for each stage. These stages are supposed to be cemented in for isolation between pressure or hydrocarbon zones by differing diameters of casing. What I've been told occurred at the point of "blowout" (uncontrolled release of pressure), is that instead of using fluid dynamics to force the drilling fluid out of the annulus (the space between well bore and casing) and up to surface by the cement "pill", the call was made to flush the drilling fluid out with WATER. The whole idea of drilling fluid is that it's dense enough, due to additives and solubles, to contain whatever wellbore pressure is present. Water has none of this density, so almost immediately the well kicked back at them. The BOP failed to shut in the pressure (as per the equipment provider's warnings), and the secondary system at the rig floor failed as well.

    Now, this is mostly hearsay, but it does follow what I've leared from my 7-8 years of experience with drilling and oilfield work. Your first line of defense from the wellbore pressure is ALWAYS your circulation of drilling fluid. Fucking with that system is just begging for problems. Intentionally installing a emergency shut down system (the BOP) that was not intended to be used under that pressure at the sea floor is poor well planning. BP is pretty much fully at fault here for all of these situations. Government ensuring that they had an emergency spill response plan wouldn't have saved BP from fucking up the situation from the start.

    Maybe they should have used the Hanson Laboratories designed Maximum Magnitude Management Blowout Preventer instead.

    Who knows, that's not the field I'm in. I'm AWARE of what the function of the equipment is, and why it's so important, but I don't have a handbook on that product line.

    Diorinix on
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  • Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    hehe... annulus

    Lord Dave on
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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Lord Dave, are you talking about butts again?

    Darmak on
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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

    The Geek on
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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

    Ahahahaha it took me a minute

    Alright that was pretty good.

    Nocturne on
  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nocturne wrote: »
    The Geek wrote: »
    Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

    Ahahahaha it took me a minute

    Alright that was pretty good.

    It's funnier if you add a Borat-style fake accent...

    Ann-yoo-loos.

    Diorinix on
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    Mmmmm....toasty.
  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Diorinix wrote: »
    Nocturne wrote: »
    The Geek wrote: »
    Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

    Ahahahaha it took me a minute

    Alright that was pretty good.

    It's funnier if you add a Borat-style fake accent...

    Ann-yoo-loos.

    Not what I'm talking about.

    The Geek on
    BLM - ACAB
  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Alternatively they should have used a better BOP
    Birds_of_Paradise.jpg

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  • DiorinixDiorinix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nocturne wrote: »
    Alternatively they should have used a better BOP
    Birds_of_Paradise.jpg

    Black border that shit, yo.
    birds_of_paradise.jpg

    Diorinix on
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  • TonkkaTonkka Some one in the club tonight Has stolen my ideas.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    This is a good birthday comic.

    Tonkka on
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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    Diorinix wrote: »
    Nocturne wrote: »
    The Geek wrote: »
    Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

    Ahahahaha it took me a minute

    Alright that was pretty good.

    It's funnier if you add a Borat-style fake accent...

    Ann-yoo-loos.

    Not what I'm talking about.

    I got it Geek, I got it.

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  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The Geek wrote: »
    Oh c'mon, no one's gonna get it?

    I got it


    and then in a desperate grab for my fleeing sanity I un-got it

    Seriously on
  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    ahahahaha this comic

    Fallout on
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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hunter wrote: »
    Talking about this at work and on the web, I always think of that great prophet George Carlin and his piece about saving the planet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw

    Everyone is so worried about how this oil leak will kill the planet and the planet is doomed. No. The planet will survive. It will self heal like its done for millions of years, slowly filtering the oil and organic poisons away and spawning new life where old life has died.

    On the other hand, people are fucked. Pack your shit folks, the planet is bleeding and I think it's pissed. I'm waiting for a tornado, volcanic eruption, or earthquake to hit, just to remind us who's fucking with who.

    I love this

    I love George Carlin

    I love you

    Kuribo's Shoe on
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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i wore a tetris shirt today at work and my few nerdy friends there were like "oh haha you must've seen the PA comic this morning"

    and i was like "what no"

    now i understand

    mully on
  • <:__)~<:__)~ Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo

    Watching the NES video reminded me of this video that I saw, I think, in the you tubes thread at one point.

    <:__)~ on
  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    It's been about 4 years since I was real obsessive about it, but in my prime I probably could have gotten an okay score on that mode.

    the invisible stuff is fucking ridiculous though.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    My crowning Tetris achievement was when I beat a guy online on Tetris DS who was obviously hacking.

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  • bawkbawkboo1bawkbawkboo1 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Even if they magically stop the leak at the bottom of the ocean tomorrow (which they won't) the amount of oil already in the ocean, and the wetlands that are already fouled, is enormous. You can still find oil in Prince William Sound from Exxon Valdez if you dig a little bit on the shoreline. That thick crude shit just doesn't degrade quickly. Eventually bacteria will break it down, but it could take 30-40 years for the oil being spilled now to go away completely. Generally it degrades more quickly in warmer places like the gulf than it would in Alaska, just because bacteria grow better in warm water, but its still long-term devastation.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Even if they magically stop the leak at the bottom of the ocean tomorrow (which they won't) the amount of oil already in the ocean, and the wetlands that are already fouled, is enormous. You can still find oil in Prince William Sound from Exxon Valdez if you dig a little bit on the shoreline. That thick crude shit just doesn't degrade quickly. Eventually bacteria will break it down, but it could take 30-40 years for the oil being spilled now to go away completely. Generally it degrades more quickly in warmer places like the gulf than it would in Alaska, just because bacteria grow better in warm water, but its still long-term devastation.

    I for one am upset that the environment is leeching all of our hard-earned oil without paying a fair price for it, and that potential freeloaders could be getting rich off the system just by turning on their taps to get free oil... taps which they're already using to get free water!

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    They should just nuke the pipes and hope for the best.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    They should just nuke the pipes and hope for the best.

    NUKE THE OCEAN

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gotta nuke somethin

    Skull Man on
  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Yeah it's pretty much the worst ecological disaster ever, yet somehow I'm not even angry about it. It's weird.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, it's big, but at least it'll be able to be diluted to natural oil seepage levels within years and won't render the area off-limits for decades like Chernobyl did to a sizeable area of Ukranian forest.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    yeah but with chernobyl you get cool irradiated wildlife and shit, with this you just get a fucked up ecosystem for a few decades

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Rolo wrote: »
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    They should just nuke the pipes and hope for the best.

    NUKE THE OCEAN

    Hey it worked for Russia.

    Henroid on
  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
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    WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gotta watch those now

    thanks a lot (no really, they're awesome)

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
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    WE'LL BLOW UP THE OCEAN!

    Fuck yes!

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  • ArrathArrath Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    L|ama wrote: »
    yeah but with chernobyl you get cool irradiated wildlife and shit, with this you just get a fucked up ecosystem for a few decades

    And STALKER.

    ...STALKER combined with Oil-Bioshock. Hmmm.

    Arrath on
  • SeriouslySeriously Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Stabbin yourself with syringes full of OIL to get more OIL POWERS

    You encounter an oil-soaked bird, a choice

    A: Clean

    X: Harvest

    Seriously on
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Bioilshock.

    Rhesus Positive on
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  • GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dely Apple wrote: »
    That tetris youtube was like watching God play

    and God too, like his progeny, waits for the four-bar piece to come down already

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw5hs0chj0

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I love that commentators have been calling this Obama's Katrina, which makes no god damned sense.

    Katrina was a natural disaster. The government has an entire organization that is supposed to be equipped to aid places hit too hard to sustain themselves. The whole idea of FEMA is that they can do this, and they failed.

    The oil spill is because a corporation done fucked up. The government doesn't haven any sort of equipment to handle it, because it's not an oil company. All it can do is get on BP's ass and make them pay out for what they've done.

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Langly wrote: »
    I love that commentators have been calling this Obama's Katrina, which makes no god damned sense.

    Katrina was a natural disaster. The government has an entire organization that is supposed to be equipped to aid places hit too hard to sustain themselves. The whole idea of FEMA is that they can do this, and they failed.

    The oil spill is because a corporation done fucked up. The government doesn't haven any sort of equipment to handle it, because it's not an oil company. All it can do is get on BP's ass and make them pay out for what they've done.

    Basically they're trying to find anyway to make Obama look like the devil.

    Obama's Katrina
    Obama's Waterloo
    Obama's Watergate

    I'm surprised this Flotila raid hasn't been called Obama's Cuban Missile Crisis yet.

    Goose! on
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