Can anyone explain the second last challenge from the DLC to me? I beat it but I want to know how it works and looking for an explanation online has led me to believe that perhaps the mechanic that lets you win is a flaw in the rules that they sort of force you to learn.
Not sure which part you're talking about...
The part where it allows you to tap land cards, or where you bring the octopus in during the opponent's main phase?
(I'm by no means an expert on Magic's ruleset, but figured a bump might help you out)
No not that one (although that one took a while to solve).
Can anyone explain the second last challenge from the DLC to me? I beat it but I want to know how it works and looking for an explanation online has led me to believe that perhaps the mechanic that lets you win is a flaw in the rules that they sort of force you to learn.
Not sure which part you're talking about...
The part where it allows you to tap land cards, or where you bring the octopus in during the opponent's main phase?
(I'm by no means an expert on Magic's ruleset, but figured a bump might help you out)
No not that one (although that one took a while to solve).
The one with Polymorph.
Is that the one you had to force the opponent to put that specific creature in play or something?
Can anyone explain the second last challenge from the DLC to me? I beat it but I want to know how it works and looking for an explanation online has led me to believe that perhaps the mechanic that lets you win is a flaw in the rules that they sort of force you to learn.
Not sure which part you're talking about...
The part where it allows you to tap land cards, or where you bring the octopus in during the opponent's main phase?
(I'm by no means an expert on Magic's ruleset, but figured a bump might help you out)
No not that one (although that one took a while to solve).
The one with Polymorph.
Is that the one you had to force the opponent to put that specific creature in play or something?
All I remember was casting Polymorph on the Colossus and then I won.
Can anyone explain the second last challenge from the DLC to me? I beat it but I want to know how it works and looking for an explanation online has led me to believe that perhaps the mechanic that lets you win is a flaw in the rules that they sort of force you to learn.
Not sure which part you're talking about...
The part where it allows you to tap land cards, or where you bring the octopus in during the opponent's main phase?
(I'm by no means an expert on Magic's ruleset, but figured a bump might help you out)
No not that one (although that one took a while to solve).
The one with Polymorph.
Is that the one you had to force the opponent to put that specific creature in play or something?
All I remember was casting Polymorph on the Colossus and then I won.
You can only cast it on the Colossus because he has the capsule that can destroy any nonblack creature. Now casting it on the Colossus doesn't destroy him because he is indestructible (and the key piece to avoiding the capsule), but the rest of the spell continues to follow through so they will put the next creature in their deck into play. You have to put the Phage the Untouchable on top because of the rules text on the card making it a game ending move to play it from anywhere other than the player's hand.
Ok, that makes sense now. I forgot about how that particular card worked and my brain was mush by then so I was more than happy to move on without questioning the order of events of my victory.
man you can really roflstomp the black deck with the artifact deck.
I'm pretty close to unlocking everything, which makes me happy.
I love this deck so much. I threw out some more trival stuff a week ago and it became that much faster, getting its combos almost everytime. The platinum angel is nice, but costly and a bitch if player take controll of it or you depends on it too much. You cant kill it yourself safe for one artefactcreature destruction card in your entire deck.
Wow, i just realised i'm in the top 500... Still a long way from first place, but I was rank 2500 or something a month ago... what the hell happened?
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It's the perfect intro to the game really. Quite a nice tutorial and the system is locked into set decks so you can only be beaten by luck/skill rather than someone simply having access to better cards than you.
Gameplay-wise it's terrific value. The base game contains enough decks and unlocks to keep you amused for weeks. The online is swift and seamless. The expansions are available to extend the experience if you want to.
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man you can really roflstomp the black deck with the artifact deck.
I'm pretty close to unlocking everything, which makes me happy.
I love this deck so much. I threw out some more trival stuff a week ago and it became that much faster, getting its combos almost everytime. The platinum angel is nice, but costly and a bitch if player take controll of it or you depends on it too much. You cant kill it yourself safe for one artefactcreature destruction card in your entire deck.
Wow, i just realised i'm in the top 500... Still a long way from first place, but I was rank 2500 or something a month ago... what the hell happened?
Yeah I start to debate mucking my hand and redrawing even if I have lands if there is no glaze fiend. 8-)
man you can really roflstomp the black deck with the artifact deck.
I'm pretty close to unlocking everything, which makes me happy.
I love this deck so much. I threw out some more trival stuff a week ago and it became that much faster, getting its combos almost everytime. The platinum angel is nice, but costly and a bitch if player take controll of it or you depends on it too much. You cant kill it yourself safe for one artefactcreature destruction card in your entire deck.
Wow, i just realised i'm in the top 500... Still a long way from first place, but I was rank 2500 or something a month ago... what the hell happened?
Yeah I start to debate mucking my hand and redrawing even if I have lands if there is no glaze fiend. 8-)
I can live without the Glaze fiends; Master of Etherium is my powercard. If I have one in hand, 2-3 lands and some cheap other artefact I feel golden. I really like the new expansion giving you one more of these buffers.
Don't get me wrong: Glaze fiend is awesome especially if your grab one more or keep drawing cheap artefacts, but I mainly use it together with my owls to get my opponent to use his terminates, incinerates of artefact removal before my big gun comes out.
On a sidenote: I drew a (quick) Loxodon Warhammer every time I played today. Talk about lucky.
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Wow, I just won a 3 way match in 7-8 turns using the new Black/Red/Blue deck. The 4/4 creature that make you discard is great when you have that red dragon with haste and 2 zombifies.
And no, I don't know the cards' names... Except zombifies, but that's just luck.
Wow, I just won a 3 way match in 7-8 turns using the new Black/Red/Blue deck. The 4/4 creature that make you discard is great when you have that red dragon with haste and 2 zombifies.
And no, I don't know the cards' names... Except zombifies, but that's just luck.
I think that deck works fine in games with more opponnents, but is too slow for 1 vs 1.
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Nah, they can hurt you with quick and weak creatures at the beginning, but once the big guns are out, you just roll over them.
Black deck is great against it tho, it can prevent you from drawing cards like crazy.
The weak creatures you can add through sideboard are filler and not helping the deck, and the ones already in there start pouring in on turn 3 if you have a land drop each turn. Most decks should have some sort of defence going by then.
I might be missing something as I only played the deck enough to unlock all cards, play 3 or extra times and remove some filler, but most of the time it was too much waiting for the combo's. Without the combos the deck is just so slow to build up an army. I like the veindrinker and the cards which get +1+1 counters it can shoot for damage, though.
I play the artfeact deck the most and its has a few disadvantages against this deck: with terror not being very usefull against most cards and howling mine giving my opponent more advantage to get enough lands out to hardcast the big guns. But my owls cant be killed by the veindrinker unless he wants to lose it and I still mangage to win perhaps 8 out of 10 against it. Not counting the obvious mana screw-draws. Most decks have big advantages over it on speed terms.
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I'm eagerly awaiting this, but I'm also concerned because it's been a long time since I played MTG. Like, '98 or so, and I know things have changed significantly. I'll need to reacclimate myself to the game, learn all the new mechanics.
How much are expansions? I'd like to get this on steam, but if the expansions are too much I'm not going to bother. (I can't see any expansions on steam, only the mention of one as a preorder)
How much are expansions? I'd like to get this on steam, but if the expansions are too much I'm not going to bother. (I can't see any expansions on steam, only the mention of one as a preorder)
Pretty sure that they're going to be $4.99 each.
I also haven't really played Magic since... 2000 I guess. Don't have the slightest clue what some of this new shit is/does, i.e. what the hell is a scheme? A planeswalker?
Man FUCK these decks. They're fucking retarded and the way the computer decides to draw cards is fucking stupid, too. I was winning 29-5. The game gave me nothing but lands until I lost.
I have to keep playing, but I'm gonna be pissed often, I can tell.
Man FUCK these decks. They're fucking retarded and the way the computer decides to draw cards is fucking stupid, too. I was winning 29-5. The game gave me nothing but lands until I lost.
I have to keep playing, but I'm gonna be pissed often, I can tell.
Yea, I've had an irritating number of games where either myself or my opponent just draws like 7 consecutive lands and dies helplessly. The number of land included in each deck is retarded, which I'm guessing is the cause of most of that. I mean, it's been 10 years since I played paper-magic, but I don't remember manascrew happening that consistently.
Man FUCK these decks. They're fucking retarded and the way the computer decides to draw cards is fucking stupid, too. I was winning 29-5. The game gave me nothing but lands until I lost.
I have to keep playing, but I'm gonna be pissed often, I can tell.
Yea, I've had an irritating number of games where either myself or my opponent just draws like 7 consecutive lands and dies helplessly. The number of land included in each deck is retarded, which I'm guessing is the cause of most of that. I mean, it's been 10 years since I played paper-magic, but I don't remember manascrew happening that consistently.
So, checking out the default deck I was using when it happened, its got 24 lands in it. That's a fair amount more than I'd want, but it still shouldn't be enough to consistently fuck me like it has been. Every game I've had to restart is because of drawing mana until I died.
Seriously, apparently the best hand to keep is nothing but lands so you can get them the fuck out of your deck and maybe draw the good shit.
OK, so let me make sure I'm understanding properly...the cards which are included in each deck initially cannot be removed, right? Only the cards you win can be taken out.
I'm asking because in that first black deck, the one with all the discards, I'd like to take out the Unholy Strength because, let's face it, I barely ever attack.
I was bored yesterday, and this game wa sonly 400 points. Played the tutorial on the trial game, and decided to go ahead and buy it. I've never played Magic before yesterday and I'm liking it. What's a good strategy for your initial hand? What's a good ratio of lands to creatures/spells to try to start out with? I know I'm extremely inexperienced in the game, but the third guy in the campaign (uses the green deck) was kicking my ass seemingly because he was getting luckier with the cards he was drawing. Is this a common occurance, like sometimes you just get unlucky with your cards?
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I know I'm extremely inexperienced in the game, but the third guy in the campaign (uses the green deck) was kicking my ass seemingly because he was getting luckier with the cards he was drawing. Is this a common occurance, like sometimes you just get unlucky with your cards?
Welcome to the wonderful world of manascrew. It happens. The opposite, getting nothing but lands, also happens. Don't sweat it, especially in the campaign where there's no penalty for losing.
I agree with socks, I generally try to get 3 lands to start.
Hmmm didn't know people here still played this game. I bought this quite I think probably Fall/Winter of 09 got into 3-5k rankings on multi. Really fun game, I just wish there was more customization with the decks. My favorite deck is the black/green elf deck. The deck brings me so much joy! Anybody knows if they ever plan to release an xpac for this game...maybe add planeswalkers/worldwake stuff?
I was bored yesterday, and this game wa sonly 400 points. Played the tutorial on the trial game, and decided to go ahead and buy it. I've never played Magic before yesterday and I'm liking it. What's a good strategy for your initial hand? What's a good ratio of lands to creatures/spells to try to start out with? I know I'm extremely inexperienced in the game, but the third guy in the campaign (uses the green deck) was kicking my ass seemingly because he was getting luckier with the cards he was drawing. Is this a common occurance, like sometimes you just get unlucky with your cards?
Yes, 3 lands is good, but with certain type of deck, or certain drawing hand, you're better off with 2 or 4. Try to plan out the sequence you will be playing your cards; it's not really good to have 4 cards needing 5 lands to play, it might be too late when you get there.
Have fun and get all the cards before playing ranking games online (it helps!).
Man FUCK these decks. They're fucking retarded and the way the computer decides to draw cards is fucking stupid, too. I was winning 29-5. The game gave me nothing but lands until I lost.
I have to keep playing, but I'm gonna be pissed often, I can tell.
Yea, I've had an irritating number of games where either myself or my opponent just draws like 7 consecutive lands and dies helplessly. The number of land included in each deck is retarded, which I'm guessing is the cause of most of that. I mean, it's been 10 years since I played paper-magic, but I don't remember manascrew happening that consistently.
So, checking out the default deck I was using when it happened, its got 24 lands in it. That's a fair amount more than I'd want, but it still shouldn't be enough to consistently fuck me like it has been. Every game I've had to restart is because of drawing mana until I died.
Seriously, apparently the best hand to keep is nothing but lands so you can get them the fuck out of your deck and maybe draw the good shit.
With the expansion, if you get all the cards, it's pretty balanced. Of course, it's still fucking retarded that you can't edit your deck as you want...
Man FUCK these decks. They're fucking retarded and the way the computer decides to draw cards is fucking stupid, too. I was winning 29-5. The game gave me nothing but lands until I lost.
I have to keep playing, but I'm gonna be pissed often, I can tell.
Yea, I've had an irritating number of games where either myself or my opponent just draws like 7 consecutive lands and dies helplessly. The number of land included in each deck is retarded, which I'm guessing is the cause of most of that. I mean, it's been 10 years since I played paper-magic, but I don't remember manascrew happening that consistently.
So, checking out the default deck I was using when it happened, its got 24 lands in it. That's a fair amount more than I'd want, but it still shouldn't be enough to consistently fuck me like it has been. Every game I've had to restart is because of drawing mana until I died.
Seriously, apparently the best hand to keep is nothing but lands so you can get them the fuck out of your deck and maybe draw the good shit.
With the expansion, if you get all the cards, it's pretty balanced. Of course, it's still fucking retarded that you can't edit your deck as you want...
I have them, and honestly, I'm calling shenanigans on that. I'm at, I believe, 20/23 extra cards for the white deck. Facing Jace, he got me down to seven cards in my deck so I went through to see how many lands the game decided I needed.
Using the green and white deck is a good way to avoid being manaless. With this deck, you better hope the game's over before you run out of mana. (it doesn't happen often tho, except if you try to get the 8 lands in one turn achievement.)
So I finally got through Oblivion and decided to fire this up off of Steam, and I have to say, it's really slick. As someone who hasn't played an actual game in, like, 14 years (just a few games over chat channels using old cards in the years between), this is the most fun I've had with MtG since middle school. The game keeps up a really good pace, and the AI isn't nearly as dumb as I would've expected. I guess the lack of customization is a flaw, but given what the game is - a great way to hop in for quick games without needing to drop a lot of cash or play rules lawyer, I can live without it. I was never really deep into deck strategery anyways.
So far I've just been running through the campaign with the green deck. Any multiplayer folks running on Steam?
Picked it up on steam last weekend myself. Still haven't done much because hey, TF2, but I wouldnt mind going a couple rounds with you (and anyone else who picked it up). I know GAF has a pretty healthy multiplayer crew for the PC version.
I played this game to death and it's always nice to see more fans and players!
A shame I'm on Xbox though. Would not playing a few mentor matches to help you get the feel of the game.
If you need some tips for your fave decks, let me know! I'm not pretending to be the father of all knowledge here, but hell, I would not mind handing out some advice.
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No not that one (although that one took a while to solve).
Hopefully that's what you were looking for.
I love this deck so much. I threw out some more trival stuff a week ago and it became that much faster, getting its combos almost everytime. The platinum angel is nice, but costly and a bitch if player take controll of it or you depends on it too much. You cant kill it yourself safe for one artefactcreature destruction card in your entire deck.
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It's the perfect intro to the game really. Quite a nice tutorial and the system is locked into set decks so you can only be beaten by luck/skill rather than someone simply having access to better cards than you.
Gameplay-wise it's terrific value. The base game contains enough decks and unlocks to keep you amused for weeks. The online is swift and seamless. The expansions are available to extend the experience if you want to.
In my opinion you can't go wrong. Just beware it becoming the gateway drug into 'true' Magic and the subsequent wallet rape that follows!
Yeah I start to debate mucking my hand and redrawing even if I have lands if there is no glaze fiend. 8-)
I can live without the Glaze fiends; Master of Etherium is my powercard. If I have one in hand, 2-3 lands and some cheap other artefact I feel golden. I really like the new expansion giving you one more of these buffers.
Don't get me wrong: Glaze fiend is awesome especially if your grab one more or keep drawing cheap artefacts, but I mainly use it together with my owls to get my opponent to use his terminates, incinerates of artefact removal before my big gun comes out.
On a sidenote: I drew a (quick) Loxodon Warhammer every time I played today. Talk about lucky.
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And no, I don't know the cards' names... Except zombifies, but that's just luck.
I think that deck works fine in games with more opponnents, but is too slow for 1 vs 1.
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Black deck is great against it tho, it can prevent you from drawing cards like crazy.
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The weak creatures you can add through sideboard are filler and not helping the deck, and the ones already in there start pouring in on turn 3 if you have a land drop each turn. Most decks should have some sort of defence going by then.
I might be missing something as I only played the deck enough to unlock all cards, play 3 or extra times and remove some filler, but most of the time it was too much waiting for the combo's. Without the combos the deck is just so slow to build up an army. I like the veindrinker and the cards which get +1+1 counters it can shoot for damage, though.
I play the artfeact deck the most and its has a few disadvantages against this deck: with terror not being very usefull against most cards and howling mine giving my opponent more advantage to get enough lands out to hardcast the big guns. But my owls cant be killed by the veindrinker unless he wants to lose it and I still mangage to win perhaps 8 out of 10 against it. Not counting the obvious mana screw-draws. Most decks have big advantages over it on speed terms.
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Steam's pre-order bonus is still available.
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I also haven't really played Magic since... 2000 I guess. Don't have the slightest clue what some of this new shit is/does, i.e. what the hell is a scheme? A planeswalker?
I have to keep playing, but I'm gonna be pissed often, I can tell.
So, checking out the default deck I was using when it happened, its got 24 lands in it. That's a fair amount more than I'd want, but it still shouldn't be enough to consistently fuck me like it has been. Every game I've had to restart is because of drawing mana until I died.
Seriously, apparently the best hand to keep is nothing but lands so you can get them the fuck out of your deck and maybe draw the good shit.
I'm asking because in that first black deck, the one with all the discards, I'd like to take out the Unholy Strength because, let's face it, I barely ever attack.
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Welcome to the wonderful world of manascrew. It happens. The opposite, getting nothing but lands, also happens. Don't sweat it, especially in the campaign where there's no penalty for losing.
I agree with socks, I generally try to get 3 lands to start.
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Yes, 3 lands is good, but with certain type of deck, or certain drawing hand, you're better off with 2 or 4. Try to plan out the sequence you will be playing your cards; it's not really good to have 4 cards needing 5 lands to play, it might be too late when you get there.
Have fun and get all the cards before playing ranking games online (it helps!).
With the expansion, if you get all the cards, it's pretty balanced. Of course, it's still fucking retarded that you can't edit your deck as you want...
I have them, and honestly, I'm calling shenanigans on that. I'm at, I believe, 20/23 extra cards for the white deck. Facing Jace, he got me down to seven cards in my deck so I went through to see how many lands the game decided I needed.
Final count was at 34.
What the fuck game?
So far I've just been running through the campaign with the green deck. Any multiplayer folks running on Steam?
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A shame I'm on Xbox though. Would not playing a few mentor matches to help you get the feel of the game.
If you need some tips for your fave decks, let me know! I'm not pretending to be the father of all knowledge here, but hell, I would not mind handing out some advice.
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Then unlock the decks on another player so my friends can play with the cool new decks.