I'm sorta okay with Discontents, but like, half the thing is about the IMF.
They are one of the largest players in globalisation. They're also responsible for a lot of the major cock-ups in globalisation - particularly in linking third world loans to accepting foreign investment and privatisation of infrastructure.
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Robert Reich's The Work of Nations is a bit long in the tooth (originally published in the early 90's) but still relevant. It's sort of pro-globalization but with a raft of progressive qualifiers. Eminently readable, too.
Then on the emphatically pro side we have David Saul Landes' The Wealth and Poverty of Nations, where he lays the blame for global poverty largely at the feet of cultural factors, in effect asking why developing country A is managing to improve its lot while country B isn't and answering that country B has values that are holding it back. It was...interesting. I disagreed with a lot of it but I'd rather have that than the popular method of trying to zero cultural factors out of economic discussion entirely.
and confessions of an EHM isnt completely anti. He certainly does not overlook many of the positive impacts it has had. It is a great book for learning how well we stacked the cards against third world nations though.
Actually, my understanding is that Globalization and its Discontents is a serious work. The title is a pun on Henry Kissenger's foreign policy book Detante and its Discontents.
Freud's Civilization and its Discontents.
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edited May 2007
I'd be interested in this I think. I could stand to become better versed on this topic.
Not that, you know, it'll ever come in handy or anything, but I'll be positively scintillating at cocktail parties.
Actually, my understanding is that Globalization and its Discontents is a serious work. The title is a pun on Henry Kissenger's foreign policy book Detante and its Discontents.
Actually, my understanding is that Globalization and its Discontents is a serious work. The title is a pun on Henry Kissenger's foreign policy book Detante and its Discontents.
Freud's Civilization and its Discontents.
Grog McCaveman's The Wheel and its Discontents.
Freud got pretty much everything wrong about psychology, so I doubt a book by him on globalization is going to blow me away.
Actually, my understanding is that Globalization and its Discontents is a serious work. The title is a pun on Henry Kissenger's foreign policy book Detante and its Discontents.
Freud's Civilization and its Discontents.
Grog McCaveman's The Wheel and its Discontents.
Freud got pretty much everything wrong about psychology, so I doubt a book by him on globalization is going to blow me away.
I think Will was pointing out that Detante and its Discontents was not the earlist use of the title.
With a corollary that I'm ill educated and he's better than me.
But he's not. He's just a rocket scientist. I'm a rocket surgeon.
Actually, my understanding is that Globalization and its Discontents is a serious work. The title is a pun on Henry Kissenger's foreign policy book Detante and its Discontents.
Freud's Civilization and its Discontents.
Grog McCaveman's The Wheel and its Discontents.
Freud got pretty much everything wrong about psychology, so I doubt a book by him on globalization is going to blow me away.
I think Will was pointing out that Detante and its Discontents was not the earlist use of the title.
With a corollary that I'm ill educated and he's better than me.
But he's not. He's just a rocket scientist. I'm a rocket surgeon.
Actually, my understanding is that Globalization and its Discontents is a serious work. The title is a pun on Henry Kissenger's foreign policy book Detante and its Discontents.
Freud's Civilization and its Discontents.
Grog McCaveman's The Wheel and its Discontents.
Freud got pretty much everything wrong about psychology, so I doubt a book by him on globalization is going to blow me away.
How does psychology have anything to do with globalization?
It's pretty interesting though - I don't remember much about it, but he tries his hand at a bit of political sociology.
I would go for the following:
In Defence of globalization - Jagdish Bhagwati Why Globalisation Works - Martin Wolf The Wealth and Poverty of Nations - David Saul Landes The Coming Anarchy - Robert Kaplan Globalisation and its Discontents - Joseph Stiglitz Making Globalisation Work - Joseph Stiglitz
Surprise, surprise, the Wychwood Library has none of these (or anything in the list, for that matter).
EDIT: actually, I can probably use the U of T library just fine - which will have anything here. Unless it's reserved.
EDIT the second: They charge $60 a year to use the library?! This is no way to treat an alumnus!
I vote for:
The world is flat - Thomas Friedman
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger - Marc Levinson
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Confessions of an economic hitman - John Perkins
A Game As Old As Empire - John Perkins
I vote for:
In Defense of Globalization - [SIZE=-1]Jagdish Bhagwati[/SIZE]
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger - Marc Levinson
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Confessions of an economic hitman - John Perkins
A Game As Old As Empire - John Perkins
I vote for:
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger - Marc Levinson
In Defense of Globalization - Jagdish Bhagwati
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Confessions of an economic hitman - John Perkins
Why They Don't Hate Us - Mark LeVine
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I probably won't have time to read more than one pro and one con. The only author I'm familiar with in the list is Friedman, who's accessible but sophist.
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I was just talking to a friend about this, and she suggested that we try to read books about similiar topics/arguments but pro/con (as opposed to just pro/con globalization).
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
In defense of globalization - Jagdish Bhagwati
Making globalization work - Joseph Stiglitz
The Wealth and Poverty of Nations - David Saul Landes
The Work of Nations - Robert Reich
Essentially, I want the back and forth between Stiglitz and Bhagwati, as I understand that their books were written in response to eachother. The others I chose seemed like the more serious works.
I would so up for this, I need to expand my view on globalization.
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This sounds awesome, but I probably won't be able to fully contribute. I have way too many projects on my plate right now, but I'll probably following along and pick up the books that sound most interesting to read at my leisure.
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I can't imagine how people just reading whatever of the books they have time for would in any way screw this up for people who read everything. Just the opposite.
So I'd encourage whatever casual participation people have time for.
I'll vote for the books I own, so, both Stiglitz books, The World is Flat, and Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
And In Defense of Globalization, since I've been meaning to pick it up.
edit: Largely, I don't care...whatever I don't own that we decide on, I'll pick up, because honestly, I'd like to read pretty much every book we've mentioned eventually.
That, and I hate libraries and love buying books, so any excuse will do.
I just checked, and on half.com you can get my entire list for $35.50 - but that doesn't include shipping. I imagine other people's lists might be even less expensive than that. And of course, at least some of these should be available or orderable at local and college libraries.
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Then on the emphatically pro side we have David Saul Landes' The Wealth and Poverty of Nations, where he lays the blame for global poverty largely at the feet of cultural factors, in effect asking why developing country A is managing to improve its lot while country B isn't and answering that country B has values that are holding it back. It was...interesting. I disagreed with a lot of it but I'd rather have that than the popular method of trying to zero cultural factors out of economic discussion entirely.
and confessions of an EHM isnt completely anti. He certainly does not overlook many of the positive impacts it has had. It is a great book for learning how well we stacked the cards against third world nations though.
Why They Don't Hate Us - Mark LeVine
Only because I want to read it.
Not that, you know, it'll ever come in handy or anything, but I'll be positively scintillating at cocktail parties.
Still, sounds like fun.
Psh. Several people here (like me) haven't read any of these books, or indeed anything at all on globalization.
Grog McCaveman's The Wheel and its Discontents.
Freud got pretty much everything wrong about psychology, so I doubt a book by him on globalization is going to blow me away.
I think Will was pointing out that Detante and its Discontents was not the earlist use of the title.
With a corollary that I'm ill educated and he's better than me.
But he's not. He's just a rocket scientist. I'm a rocket surgeon.
That one went totally over my head.
How does psychology have anything to do with globalization?
Nothing. Freud being a moron has something to do with how shitty a book on globalization by him would be.
I'm laughing really hard.
Or anything not by Friedman.
I dunno, I think a book on globalization by just about anyone not around in the last few decades of the 20th century would be terrible.
It's pretty interesting though - I don't remember much about it, but he tries his hand at a bit of political sociology.
I would go for the following:
In Defence of globalization - Jagdish Bhagwati
Why Globalisation Works - Martin Wolf
The Wealth and Poverty of Nations - David Saul Landes
The Coming Anarchy - Robert Kaplan
Globalisation and its Discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Making Globalisation Work - Joseph Stiglitz
Surprise, surprise, the Wychwood Library has none of these (or anything in the list, for that matter).
EDIT: actually, I can probably use the U of T library just fine - which will have anything here. Unless it's reserved.
EDIT the second: They charge $60 a year to use the library?! This is no way to treat an alumnus!
Sucker.
I have a roommate who is still a student at UBC. i'm set
Post your votes for what books to read now.
Example:
I vote for:
The world is flat - Thomas Friedman
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger - Marc Levinson
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Confessions of an economic hitman - John Perkins
A Game As Old As Empire - John Perkins
In Defense of Globalization - [SIZE=-1]Jagdish Bhagwati[/SIZE]
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger - Marc Levinson
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Confessions of an economic hitman - John Perkins
A Game As Old As Empire - John Perkins
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger - Marc Levinson
In Defense of Globalization - Jagdish Bhagwati
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
Confessions of an economic hitman - John Perkins
Why They Don't Hate Us - Mark LeVine
Is that possible with our list?
Do you mean read pro/con about various subsets issues of globalization?
Empires of Profit: Commerce, Conquest and Corporate Responsibility - Daniel Litvin
Globalization and its discontents - Joseph Stiglitz
In defense of globalization - Jagdish Bhagwati
Making globalization work - Joseph Stiglitz
The Wealth and Poverty of Nations - David Saul Landes
The Work of Nations - Robert Reich
Essentially, I want the back and forth between Stiglitz and Bhagwati, as I understand that their books were written in response to eachother. The others I chose seemed like the more serious works.
"All memory of your existence will be wiped from reality. You will die, and no one will mourn." - Memnarch
So I'd encourage whatever casual participation people have time for.
And In Defense of Globalization, since I've been meaning to pick it up.
edit: Largely, I don't care...whatever I don't own that we decide on, I'll pick up, because honestly, I'd like to read pretty much every book we've mentioned eventually.
That, and I hate libraries and love buying books, so any excuse will do.