Warlock82Never pet a burning dogRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
Unless they are changing the connectors, I see absolutely no way it would not be backwards compatible. That's basically screwing over every single HDMI device if that was the case.
Edit: Then again, it's a cable. Who the hell knows..
Okay I'll just ask it now and get it out of the way.
Is 1.4 just another bullshit thing? If i have to see Best Buy and other places offer yet another 'premium' cable (with gold plated tips! / Loss free! / Extra special!! ) and charge hundreds of dollars just to be able to use the thing you bought from them properly I may just vomit.
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Warlock82Never pet a burning dogRegistered Userregular
Okay I'll just ask it now and get it out of the way.
Is 1.4 just another bullshit thing? If i have to see Best Buy and other places offer yet another 'premium' cable (with gold plated tips! / Loss free! / Extra special!! ) and charge hundreds of dollars just to be able to use the thing you bought from them properly I may just vomit.
Edit: Haha, that wiki page says it's disallowed to mention the HDMI version number on cables anymore. Wonder if that was to limit the bullshit "ZOMG it's better cuz the number is higher!" sales
These cables are one of the things that if you price them on the internet they are like 10 bucks....at a store they are 100+ bucks. I'm honestly shocked that this scam hasnt been called on by now.
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SirUltimosDon't talk, Rusty. Just paint.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
A lot of people seriously believe the more expensive cables are better. It happens all the time at my store. People refuse to buy the cheap ones, even if it saves them 50-100 dollars.
Cnet's review section talks about how they use the cheapest thing they can find because extensive testing says that HDMI cables are a fungible good until you start running them between two first down markers.
Cnet's review section talks about how they use the cheapest thing they can find because extensive testing says that HDMI cables are a fungible good until you start running them between two first down markers.
If I didn't know LaPuzza wasn't a spambot I would think that was a spambot post.
I feel like a spambot because I recommend the site so much but people get ripped off all the time because they've never heard of it. Imagine living in a world where everyone around you complains about how hard it is to find anything on the internet and you're the only one who knows about Google.
Well in my experience there certainly is a difference between cheap and expensive cables and hardware.
I have about 400ft of HDMI cable running through my walls, and about 30 small cables connecting all of my devices to the hdmi veins running through the house. Monoprice cables seem to have about a 1/5 failure rate for me. Meaning, about 1 in 5 I purchase are DOA. I consider this largely just a cost of doing business with monoprice, the money you save otherwise more than makes up for it. So I tend to order more than I need from them.
But I definitely get some weird stuff going on using cheaper cables once you start to make numerous connections and send the signal through pretty long distances. Grain, sometimes loss of picture or specific colors (I know it seems weird being a digital signal but this is what has happened) among other problems. But by far the most common and obnoxious problem, is loose/crappy connectors that will literally fall out or lose contact with the device.
I think buying a cheap cable is fine if you are trying to connect your xbox directly to your TV, but when you start talking about elaborate setups with walljacks and multiple switches you probably want to invest in slightly better cables.
Cnet's review section talks about how they use the cheapest thing they can find because extensive testing says that HDMI cables are a fungible good until you start running them between two first down markers.
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He means, if you don't have 10 yards of HMDI cabel between your bluray player and your tv, it doesn't matter how cheap the piece of wire connecting the two devices is.
Cnet's review section talks about how they use the cheapest thing they can find because extensive testing says that HDMI cables are a fungible good until you start running them between two first down markers.
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Wha?
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I felt like a spambot writing that, because I've made virtually the same post on forums for cars, tvs and golf over the last week. Friends don't let friends buy expensive cables.
Also, the wire hanger v. monster cable thing on audio cables is absolutely classic.
Well, thanks for the link. I just finally bought myself a swiveling HDMI adapter. I hate the fact that my TV has and HDMI port on the side so the wires stick out.
It was going to my 1080p projector, never had an issue with the video or handshaking. That particular cable is 22-gauge, though, so a little beefier than 24. Then again, this was over a HDMI 1.2 connection, so I don't know if the newer specs cause any issues.
It was going to my 1080p projector, never had an issue with the video or handshaking. That particular cable is 22-gauge, though, so a little beefier than 24. Then again, this was over a HDMI 1.2 connection, so I don't know if the newer specs cause any issues.
No they don't. You just need to make sure it's 1.2 1.3 1.4 or whatever the fuck you need, after that it means jack shit. Now plenum rated (ie can run in the wall and won't burn your office to the ground) is important, but this "zomg pure gold, no o2, sealed" crud monster and it's ilk push means jack shit.
monoprice is good, but they do have quality control issues at times and had the entire creditcard theft fiasco not that long ago. So I'm going to drop this link and be done with it.
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Edit: Then again, it's a cable. Who the hell knows..
Is 1.4 just another bullshit thing? If i have to see Best Buy and other places offer yet another 'premium' cable (with gold plated tips! / Loss free! / Extra special!! ) and charge hundreds of dollars just to be able to use the thing you bought from them properly I may just vomit.
Ok, I looked it up. It's basically HDMI + they now support 3D stuff (which sounds like maybe double wide resolution)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.4
Edit: Haha, that wiki page says it's disallowed to mention the HDMI version number on cables anymore. Wonder if that was to limit the bullshit "ZOMG it's better cuz the number is higher!" sales
Hdmi 1.4 cables are backwards compatible with old hardware. They support newer 1.4 compatible hardware if you have it.
Cnet's review section talks about how they use the cheapest thing they can find because extensive testing says that HDMI cables are a fungible good until you start running them between two first down markers.
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Wha?
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To be fair, shirt hangers are hella thick and I imagine they would be good conductors.
I feel like a spambot because I recommend the site so much but people get ripped off all the time because they've never heard of it. Imagine living in a world where everyone around you complains about how hard it is to find anything on the internet and you're the only one who knows about Google.
I have about 400ft of HDMI cable running through my walls, and about 30 small cables connecting all of my devices to the hdmi veins running through the house. Monoprice cables seem to have about a 1/5 failure rate for me. Meaning, about 1 in 5 I purchase are DOA. I consider this largely just a cost of doing business with monoprice, the money you save otherwise more than makes up for it. So I tend to order more than I need from them.
But I definitely get some weird stuff going on using cheaper cables once you start to make numerous connections and send the signal through pretty long distances. Grain, sometimes loss of picture or specific colors (I know it seems weird being a digital signal but this is what has happened) among other problems. But by far the most common and obnoxious problem, is loose/crappy connectors that will literally fall out or lose contact with the device.
I think buying a cheap cable is fine if you are trying to connect your xbox directly to your TV, but when you start talking about elaborate setups with walljacks and multiple switches you probably want to invest in slightly better cables.
He means, if you don't have 10 yards of HMDI cabel between your bluray player and your tv, it doesn't matter how cheap the piece of wire connecting the two devices is.
I felt like a spambot writing that, because I've made virtually the same post on forums for cars, tvs and golf over the last week. Friends don't let friends buy expensive cables.
Also, the wire hanger v. monster cable thing on audio cables is absolutely classic.
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I agree with everyone else. I have never bought Monster cable and I have never had a issue!
I've used a 75-foot cable from monoprice, this one I believe: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2893&seq=1&format=2
It was going to my 1080p projector, never had an issue with the video or handshaking. That particular cable is 22-gauge, though, so a little beefier than 24. Then again, this was over a HDMI 1.2 connection, so I don't know if the newer specs cause any issues.
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No they don't. You just need to make sure it's 1.2 1.3 1.4 or whatever the fuck you need, after that it means jack shit. Now plenum rated (ie can run in the wall and won't burn your office to the ground) is important, but this "zomg pure gold, no o2, sealed" crud monster and it's ilk push means jack shit.
monoprice is good, but they do have quality control issues at times and had the entire creditcard theft fiasco not that long ago. So I'm going to drop this link and be done with it.
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