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MMA 8: UFC 116: The Fourth of July Comes Early!

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    815165 wrote: »
    Sounds like M1 are pushing for a Fedor/Werdum rematch while Scott Coker is more interested in Fedor/Reem.

    Would anyone here really rather wait for Werdum to heal up after his upcoming surgery to fight Fedor again when we could have Fedor fighting Overeem (if slightly unjust) in the meantime?

    No. No more title fights for people coming off a loss. Please.

    Car analogy time!

    Coker's Ferrari is smashed, now he's just trying to salvage whatever parts he can for scrap. If Fedor loses to Werdum again, then Fedor-Reem loses what little drawing power it has left to the casual fan. And Werdum has no interest in Overeem avenging his loss by caving in Werdum's skull.

    815165 wrote: »
    What's Overeem to do, though? He set aside time to devote to Strikeforce and they're not going to have anyone to fight him while Werdum heals up.

    Back to Japan for a while, probably. Or the UFC if they'll let him do K-1. The Uberknee will be the true test of whether Lesnar can or can't be knocked out. Fujita could win a headbutting contest with a rock, and Overeem damn near killed him.

    To be honest, I don't really understand why the UFC doesn't allow their fighters into K-1, but they do allow them into ADCC. Both are combat sports tournaments but neither are MMA, having more restrictive rules than MMA. Even the "if a UFC fighter loses in K-1 everyone will think he sucks" line doesn't work. GSP and Big Nog have lost at ADCC, does that mean their grappling sucks?

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I think you're less likely to be out for a few months with injuries after ADCC than you are after K-1.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Does he let them participate in regionals or just in the big event?

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  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited July 2010
    815165 wrote: »
    I think you're less likely to be out for a few months with injuries after ADCC than you are after K-1.

    This.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    815165 wrote: »
    I think you're less likely to be out for a few months with injuries after ADCC than you are after K-1.

    Really? That seems counter-intuitive to me.

    K-1 has some spectacular knockouts that likely produce concussions. Those can get bad for fighters in the long-term when they start racking up, but recovering from a single concussion usually doesn't take that long.

    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing. Palhares could have easily destroyed Drwal's knee with that heel hook. Aoki busted Hirota's arm, just as Mir did to Sylvia. Granted those were all MMA matches, but they were grappling moves that would have been right at home in ADCC.

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  • PeenPeen tw1tch0rz occasionallyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    My thinking was you can bust all sorts of things kickboxing, it's just part of the sport. By contrast high level Jits guys know when to tap out of a joint lock that's going to get them hurt, they're not going to stay in too long just to prove a point.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    815165 wrote: »
    I think you're less likely to be out for a few months with injuries after ADCC than you are after K-1.

    Really? That seems counter-intuitive to me.

    K-1 has some spectacular knockouts that likely produce concussions. Those can get bad for fighters in the long-term when they start racking up, but recovering from a single concussion usually doesn't take that long.

    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing. Palhares could have easily destroyed Drwal's knee with that heel hook. Aoki busted Hirota's arm, just as Mir did to Sylvia. Granted those were all MMA matches, but they were grappling moves that would have been right at home in ADCC.
    Being knocked out comes with a lengthy medical suspension, even if you're probably fine. I'd bet more people come out of a K-1 event unable to compete again for X months than they do at ADCC. Plus I imagine people don't usually hold onto subs at ADCC like Palhares did, or extend them further before letting go like Aoki.

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  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User
    edited July 2010
    But guys can tap before a submission does its damage. I'm not an expert on how things go down at Abu Dhabi, but I assume guys tap there.

    edit: Double-beat.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    i hope marquardt beats the shit out of palhares
    there is no reason why that man should be inside a ring again

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  • midgetspymidgetspy Registered User
    edited July 2010
    The muscle damage from kicks could have fighters out for months (a la Urijah Faber) and I'd assume that facial cuts/etc would be a big deal too. People also break hands/feet/arms by punching/kicking/blocking far more frequently than damage from submissions.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    dlinfiniti wrote: »
    i hope marquardt beats the shit out of palhares
    there is no reason why that man should be inside a ring again
    It's bullshit that Sokoudjou and Paul Daley got cut and Palhares didn't. Attacking anyone after the end of the fight is assault.

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    And based on what I've seen of the results its fairly rare to get a joint lock in the ADCC as I understand it. You're much more likely to get wins on points or a choke.

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing.

    There are very few injuries in sport BJJ. Guys competing at that level know when they're caught and tap, and the guys catching them know not to crank it. Respect is a huge part of Brazilian culture and therefore BJJ, so if a guy's known to hold subs he'll get blackballed very quickly.

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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    facetious wrote: »
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing.

    There are very few injuries in sport BJJ. Guys competing at that level know when they're caught and tap, and the guys catching them know not to crank it. Respect is a huge part of Brazilian culture and therefore BJJ, so if a guy's known to hold subs he'll get blackballed very quickly.
    Sure, blackballing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSE-q29-TFw

    I'm sure Roger totally got blackballed for making Aoki limp like that.

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  • doug_grammardoug_grammar Registered User
    edited July 2010
    Man, July is a slow month for MMA.

    Strikeforce Challengers looks like it might be okay, though I've no way to watch it.

    Impact FC 1/2 will probably be entertaining, if not significant or relevant. I certainly won't be paying money for it.

    You forgot about this upcoming Saturday, DREAM 15

    Lightweight Championship bout: Shinya Aoki (c) vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri
    Light Heavyweight Grand Prix Opening Round bout: Melvin Manhoef vs. Tatsuya Mizuno
    Lightweight bout: Gesias Cavalcante vs. Katsunori Kikuno
    Middleweight bout: Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Karl Amoussou
    Featherweight bout: Michihiro Omigawa vs. Jong Young Sam
    Light Heavyweight Grand Prix Opening Round bout: Gegard Mousasi vs. Jake O'Brien
    Featherweight bout: Mitsuhiro Ishida vs. Daiki Hata

    Also, you have to remember, June was fucking insane from beginning to the end. The rest of the year's going to seem tame.

    If you want to become the new OP, say so now.

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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    You forgot Joaquim "Mamute" Ferreira vs Rameau "OHMYGODICANTBREATHE" Sudoku.

    And War Machine vs. "The Natural".

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    facetious wrote: »
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing.

    There are very few injuries in sport BJJ. Guys competing at that level know when they're caught and tap, and the guys catching them know not to crank it. Respect is a huge part of Brazilian culture and therefore BJJ, so if a guy's known to hold subs he'll get blackballed very quickly.
    Sure, blackballing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSE-q29-TFw

    I'm sure Roger totally got blackballed for making Aoki limp like that.

    Looks to me like he let go almost immediately

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  • DynagripDynagrip destroy everything you touch Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    You forgot Joaquim "Mamute" Ferreira vs Rameau "OHMYGODICANTBREATHE" Sudoku.

    And War Machine vs. "The Natural".

    how the heck is war machine not in jail?

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    B:L wrote: »
    You forgot Joaquim "Mamute" Ferreira vs Rameau "OHMYGODICANTBREATHE" Sudoku.

    And War Machine vs. "The Natural".

    how the heck is war machine not in jail?
    The secret to running from the cops is to twitter while you're doing it.

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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Goose! wrote: »
    B:L wrote: »
    facetious wrote: »
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing.

    There are very few injuries in sport BJJ. Guys competing at that level know when they're caught and tap, and the guys catching them know not to crank it. Respect is a huge part of Brazilian culture and therefore BJJ, so if a guy's known to hold subs he'll get blackballed very quickly.
    Sure, blackballing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSE-q29-TFw

    I'm sure Roger totally got blackballed for making Aoki limp like that.

    Looks to me like he let go almost immediately

    Yeah, he let got pretty darn quick. Dont be a hater.

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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    .... I just realised that Cango's signature is a haiku.

    Well played, CW.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    facetious wrote: »
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Grappling, and specifically jiu-jitsu, has a ton of techniques designed to break limbs and shred ligaments, there are no joint locks in kickboxing.

    There are very few injuries in sport BJJ. Guys competing at that level know when they're caught and tap, and the guys catching them know not to crank it. Respect is a huge part of Brazilian culture and therefore BJJ, so if a guy's known to hold subs he'll get blackballed very quickly.
    Sure, blackballing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSE-q29-TFw

    I'm sure Roger totally got blackballed for making Aoki limp like that.

    How odd of you to do the exact same thing that you always accuse others of. He didn't say that injuries didn't happen. He didn't say no one ever limped away from a BJJ match. What he did say, is it's frowned upon to hold a submission for longer than necessary, and making a habit of it will probably get you booted from competing. Gracie didn't hold that submission for one second longer than was needed.

    I know, I know, don't feed the troll. But I find that you (B:L) have intelligent things to say from time to time, so I don't personally consider you a troll. But that? That post of yours? That's trolling. You purposely misconstrued what was being said, twisted it to suit your own purpose, and then posted a video backing up your counterpoint to a point that was never made in the first place.

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  • B:LB:L Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    How odd of you to do the exact same thing that you always accuse others of. He didn't say that injuries didn't happen. He didn't say no one ever limped away from a BJJ match. What he did say, is it's frowned upon to hold a submission for longer than necessary, and making a habit of it will probably get you booted from competing. Gracie didn't hold that submission for one second longer than was needed.

    I know, I know, don't feed the troll. But I find that you (B:L) have intelligent things to say from time to time, so I don't personally consider you a troll. But that? That post of yours? That's trolling. You purposely misconstrued what was being said, twisted it to suit your own purpose, and then posted a video backing up your counterpoint to a point that was never made in the first place.
    My point was that injuries can happen, even at the highest levels with Roger and Aoki. There certainly was no respect if he cranked it enough against someone that much lighter than him, to the point where his opponent had to limp away.

    I'm just pointing out the exception to the rule. Usually, it's safe. But when there's a grudge, career-affecting injuries can occur even at the highest levels.

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  • sportzboytjwsportzboytjw squeeeeeezzeeee some more tax breaks outRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    How odd of you to do the exact same thing that you always accuse others of. He didn't say that injuries didn't happen. He didn't say no one ever limped away from a BJJ match. What he did say, is it's frowned upon to hold a submission for longer than necessary, and making a habit of it will probably get you booted from competing. Gracie didn't hold that submission for one second longer than was needed.

    I know, I know, don't feed the troll. But I find that you (B:L) have intelligent things to say from time to time, so I don't personally consider you a troll. But that? That post of yours? That's trolling. You purposely misconstrued what was being said, twisted it to suit your own purpose, and then posted a video backing up your counterpoint to a point that was never made in the first place.
    My point was that injuries can happen, even at the highest levels with Roger and Aoki. There certainly was no respect if he cranked it enough against someone that much lighter than him, to the point where his opponent had to limp away.

    I'm just pointing out the exception to the rule. Usually, it's safe. But when there's a grudge, career-affecting injuries can occur even at the highest levels.

    Yea, you're right, he totally disrespected him by cranking enough to ensure that one of the best BJJers in the world submitted. That wasn't respect for his skills and making certain that Roger won or anything.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    How odd of you to do the exact same thing that you always accuse others of. He didn't say that injuries didn't happen. He didn't say no one ever limped away from a BJJ match. What he did say, is it's frowned upon to hold a submission for longer than necessary, and making a habit of it will probably get you booted from competing. Gracie didn't hold that submission for one second longer than was needed.

    I know, I know, don't feed the troll. But I find that you (B:L) have intelligent things to say from time to time, so I don't personally consider you a troll. But that? That post of yours? That's trolling. You purposely misconstrued what was being said, twisted it to suit your own purpose, and then posted a video backing up your counterpoint to a point that was never made in the first place.
    My point was that injuries can happen, even at the highest levels with Roger and Aoki. There certainly was no respect if he cranked it enough against someone that much lighter than him, to the point where his opponent had to limp away.

    I'm just pointing out the exception to the rule. Usually, it's safe. But when there's a grudge, career-affecting injuries can occur even at the highest levels.

    Sure, it's still going to happen. People get hurt walking up stairs, for fuck's sake. But stair-climbing injuries (and BJJ competition injuries) are still quite a bit less likely than MMA/Kickboxing injuries, i'd think.


    EDIT: Also, i meant Purposefully, not purposely. Damn you, Captain Morgan. Damn you.

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    facetious wrote: »
    .... I just realised that Cango's signature is a haiku.

    Well played, CW.

    8-)

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    How odd of you to do the exact same thing that you always accuse others of. He didn't say that injuries didn't happen. He didn't say no one ever limped away from a BJJ match. What he did say, is it's frowned upon to hold a submission for longer than necessary, and making a habit of it will probably get you booted from competing. Gracie didn't hold that submission for one second longer than was needed.

    I know, I know, don't feed the troll. But I find that you (B:L) have intelligent things to say from time to time, so I don't personally consider you a troll. But that? That post of yours? That's trolling. You purposely misconstrued what was being said, twisted it to suit your own purpose, and then posted a video backing up your counterpoint to a point that was never made in the first place.
    My point was that injuries can happen, even at the highest levels with Roger and Aoki. There certainly was no respect if he cranked it enough against someone that much lighter than him, to the point where his opponent had to limp away.

    I'm just pointing out the exception to the rule. Usually, it's safe. But when there's a grudge, career-affecting injuries can occur even at the highest levels.

    Sure, it's still going to happen. People get hurt walking up stairs, for fuck's sake. But stair-climbing injuries (and BJJ competition injuries) are still quite a bit less likely than MMA/Kickboxing injuries, i'd think.


    EDIT: Also, i meant Purposefully, not purposely. Damn you, Captain Morgan. Damn you.

    Porpoisely!

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  • SnarfmasterSnarfmaster Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    B:L wrote: »
    How odd of you to do the exact same thing that you always accuse others of. He didn't say that injuries didn't happen. He didn't say no one ever limped away from a BJJ match. What he did say, is it's frowned upon to hold a submission for longer than necessary, and making a habit of it will probably get you booted from competing. Gracie didn't hold that submission for one second longer than was needed.

    I know, I know, don't feed the troll. But I find that you (B:L) have intelligent things to say from time to time, so I don't personally consider you a troll. But that? That post of yours? That's trolling. You purposely misconstrued what was being said, twisted it to suit your own purpose, and then posted a video backing up your counterpoint to a point that was never made in the first place.
    My point was that injuries can happen, even at the highest levels with Roger and Aoki. There certainly was no respect if he cranked it enough against someone that much lighter than him, to the point where his opponent had to limp away.

    I'm just pointing out the exception to the rule. Usually, it's safe. But when there's a grudge, career-affecting injuries can occur even at the highest levels.

    Sure, it's still going to happen. People get hurt walking up stairs, for fuck's sake. But stair-climbing injuries (and BJJ competition injuries) are still quite a bit less likely than MMA/Kickboxing injuries, i'd think.


    EDIT: Also, i meant Purposefully, not purposely. Damn you, Captain Morgan. Damn you.

    Porpoisely!
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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Aoki isnt some scrub. He isnt some 14 year old neckbeard from an Aikido school who doesnt know a kimura from a keylock.


    Hes muthaluvin Shinya Aoki.


    He knew roger was hitting that ankle lock. He tried to escape, couldnt, and tapped.


    1)Ankle locks hurt like a mother
    2)Aoki knows this
    3)Even if you perform an ankle lock 100% perfectly (most people dont) its REALLY hard to break it. But it hurts.
    4)Aoki tapped when he thought best, then limped because his ankle hurt, likely not due to actual injury, but pain.


    In summary
    Roger did nothing wrong
    Aoki got hurt, not injured
    DURRr yeah BJJ competitions can cause injuries, but its not common.
    As was said earlier, if someone intentionally hurts his opponent, hes gonna get blackballed.


    Pure grappling is, over all, safer than pure striking. How many childrens boxing matches do you see? Not many. They have children BJJ matches all the time, with only slightly modified rules (no leglocks period, no chokes til a certain age, etc.)

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So...George Sotiropoulos.

    The man is unbeaten in the 6 fights he's had in the UFC (4 of those victories are at lightweight). He's looked very impressive in his last two outings against Joe Stevenson and Kurt Pellegrino. Personally, I'd like to see him face the loser of the Florian/Maynard fight in August. I think it would be the perfect step up in competition for him.

    Thoughts?

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'd love to see him fight Florian, I think Maynard's wrestling would be a bit too much for him.

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  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Peen wrote: »
    My thinking was you can bust all sorts of things kickboxing, it's just part of the sport. By contrast high level Jits guys know when to tap out of a joint lock that's going to get them hurt, they're not going to stay in too long just to prove a point.

    I couldn't find any comparisons of BJJ vs kickboxing injury rates. Closest I got was:

    Injuries in martial arts: a comparison of five styles
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1725005/pdf/v039p00029.pdf
    The rate of injuries, expressed as percentage of participants sustaining an injury that required time off training a year, varied according to style:
    59% tae kwon do
    51% aikido
    38% kung fu
    30% karate
    14% tai chi


    Injury and injury rates in Muay Thai kickboxing
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1724381/pdf/v035p00308.pdf
    Conclusions — The results are similar to those found for karate and taekwondo with regard to injury distribution, type, and rate. The percentage of injuries resulting in time off training is less.

    Also, it appears that just looking at "grappling" in general in terms of injury rates appears to be useless. For example, judo produces more injuries than wrestling due to the use of high-impact throws and the constant twisting of planted legs. There's a lot of knee injuries in judo as a result.

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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, I'd say from anecdotal evidence most bjj injuries come from people taking a throw wrong. Especially when learning/drilling them. If getting uchi-mata'd 20 times in a matter of minutes would probably increase your chance of injury.


    Also, how the heck do 14% of Tai Chi ers get injured and laid off for a year?!

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  • adytumadytum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    CangoFett wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd say from anecdotal evidence most bjj injuries come from people taking a throw wrong. Especially when learning/drilling them. If getting uchi-mata'd 20 times in a matter of minutes would probably increase your chance of injury.


    Also, how the heck do 14% of Tai Chi ers get injured and laid off for a year?!

    I bet the average age has something to do with it. :P

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  • DangerbirdDangerbird Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    adytum wrote: »
    CangoFett wrote: »
    Yeah, I'd say from anecdotal evidence most bjj injuries come from people taking a throw wrong. Especially when learning/drilling them. If getting uchi-mata'd 20 times in a matter of minutes would probably increase your chance of injury.


    Also, how the heck do 14% of Tai Chi ers get injured and laid off for a year?!

    I bet the average age has something to do with it. :P

    Yeah, have you ever gone by a park early in the morning? Often theres a whole bunch of elderly chinese people doing tai chi.

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  • ChillyWillyChillyWilly Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Seriously though, guys. Sotiroupolus.

    I NEED YOUR OPINIONS.

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  • adytumadytum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Seriously though, guys. Sotiroupolus.

    I NEED YOUR OPINIONS.

    He's a great fighter and a pleasure to watch, though Pellegrino put him in danger a few times while on their feet.

    Hopefully he can make a run at better competition. I actually think he'd be good against a wrestler, as his BJJ is top-notch and he's shown he can really control the entire fight off his back.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    BubbaT wrote: »
    Injury and injury rates in Muay Thai kickboxing
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1724381/pdf/v035p00308.pdf
    Conclusions — The results are similar to those found for karate and taekwondo with regard to injury distribution, type, and rate. The percentage of injuries resulting in time off training is less.
    It may be because I read the article too fast, but I didn't see where they compared the fitness levels of the athletes and how that may have biased injury severity and recovery times.

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  • MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    adytum wrote: »
    Seriously though, guys. Sotiroupolus.

    I NEED YOUR OPINIONS.

    He's a great fighter and a pleasure to watch, though Pellegrino put him in danger a few times while on their feet.

    Hopefully he can make a run at better competition. I actually think he's be good against a wrestler, as his BJJ is top-notch and he's shown he can really control the entire fight off his back.

    His defensive BJJ is good. We haven't seen much BJJ offense from him that I can remember. He subbed Jason Dent and George Roop. Wow.

    And he needs someone coming off a win, not someone coming off a loss. Unless it's someone coming off a title-shot loss. That's acceptable.

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  • adytumadytum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    adytum wrote: »
    Seriously though, guys. Sotiroupolus.

    I NEED YOUR OPINIONS.

    He's a great fighter and a pleasure to watch, though Pellegrino put him in danger a few times while on their feet.

    Hopefully he can make a run at better competition. I actually think he'd be good against a wrestler, as his BJJ is top-notch and he's shown he can really control the entire fight off his back.

    His defensive BJJ is good. We haven't seen much BJJ offense from him that I can remember. He subbed Jason Dent and George Roop. Wow.

    And he needs someone coming off a win, not someone coming off a loss. Unless it's someone coming off a title-shot loss. That's acceptable.

    Only one way to find out, and that's more fights!

    His inability to finish both of his last two fights was disconcerting, particularly with how dominantly he controlled Joe Stevenson.

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