ButtersA glass of some milksRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
It's not just money but it definitely helps and doing it through the draft the way the Rays have is really fucking hard and uncommon these days. The Rays did lose to a far wealthier Phillies team in the World Series as well.
Yep, its definitely Steinbrenner's fault that other teams care less about winning and more about profits.
One reason that some clubs fail to improve is that they don't use their revenue sharing dollars to attract free agents or to retain homegrown players.
Wealthier teams being able to offer top free agents more massive, long-term contracts make this much more difficult than the article suggests. Cliff Lee has found himself become a journeyman because Cleveland and Seattle would not be able to afford to offer him as much as any of the top 5 or so payroll teams.
Yes Cleveland probably could have put more effort into getting better returns on both of their former Cy Young award winners but a combination of New York money and a shitty economic climate has made it impossible for the Indians to take steps other than minimize losses right now.
If Boston hadn't embraced the Steinbrenner model, the Red Sox would still be looking at a 92-year WS drought.
Without a salary cap and some FEMA money a small-market team in an economically struggling city like the New Orleans Saints might never have won a Super Bowl despite being ranked #22 in overall net worth.
I am also not sure how you are refuting my point about the Steinbrenner method being what's wrong with MLB.
Don't worry, all they need to do is put another MLB team in New York and that will instantly fix everything that's wrong with baseball. A salary cap won't help, salary floor won't help, nope, nothing else.
Steinbrenner's over spending wasn't what bothered me about him, I thought he was a jerk and a baby. I think his sons have continued that legacy.
With that said, I understand the loss this is for the Yankees and baseball in general. I'm not glad he's dead by any means.
Steinbrenner was "The Boss" when it came to baseball, but he was super nice outside of it. Very involved in his communities and scholarships n' such both in New York and Tampa. He was actually a super nice guy.
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Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
The Indians probably don't spend enough, and never hang on to their good players. I don't follow their finances enough to comment on it much further, but that certainly doesn't help them. Wasn't too long ago, though, that they were a ballin team.
McLane doesn't want to rebuild, thinks he can just keep adding stuff and hopefully they'll get better? That's why there's a chance Roy Oswalt might not get traded again.
The Pirates have their own special brew of awfulness.
I've been really impressed with how quick the Padres have turned themselves around. Great pitching and just good enough offense, and they're in a good position to win the NL West.
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Yep, its definitely Steinbrenner's fault that other teams care less about winning and more about profits.
Wealthier teams being able to offer top free agents more massive, long-term contracts make this much more difficult than the article suggests. Cliff Lee has found himself become a journeyman because Cleveland and Seattle would not be able to afford to offer him as much as any of the top 5 or so payroll teams.
Yes Cleveland probably could have put more effort into getting better returns on both of their former Cy Young award winners but a combination of New York money and a shitty economic climate has made it impossible for the Indians to take steps other than minimize losses right now.
Without a salary cap and some FEMA money a small-market team in an economically struggling city like the New Orleans Saints might never have won a Super Bowl despite being ranked #22 in overall net worth.
I am also not sure how you are refuting my point about the Steinbrenner method being what's wrong with MLB.
Also, they need to make an Ichiro themed game.
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Or so I've heard.
With that said, I understand the loss this is for the Yankees and baseball in general. I'm not glad he's dead by any means.
http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2010/04/19/forbes-and-yankees/#more-3299
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Steinbrenner was "The Boss" when it came to baseball, but he was super nice outside of it. Very involved in his communities and scholarships n' such both in New York and Tampa. He was actually a super nice guy.
Haha holy shit.
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dodged a bullet there then
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Yes and no. His family made their fortune in Ohio. Had he established himself in Cleveland a lot of things may have been different.
how do Cubs fans deal with such crippling disappointment?
They seem like hard luck losers.
mostly I just kind of laugh because it's kind of a relief to be able to give up on the season in july instead of having them implode in october
They're old, and they've got possibly the worst farm system in the majors. They're going to be terrible for a long fucking time.
And somehow, the Pirates are still 5.5 games worse.
And somehow, the Cubs are like, 2-20 against the both of them.
I've been really impressed with how quick the Padres have turned themselves around. Great pitching and just good enough offense, and they're in a good position to win the NL West.
but pitching in that stadium has to be a pretty big confidence booster