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[Let's Play] Shin Megami Tensei II [Finale: The End of the Cycle]

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    ElexElex Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Staying Law or Chaos just seems so easy compared to Neutral. :(

    Law in particular, you skip over most of the end game bosses.

    Neutral skips no bosses and gets no end game free demons.

    Should've been able to get Masakado :/

    Also, isn't there some cave in the abyss where we see the corpses of the first SMT hero and heroine? I remember hearing about that.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The shrine I went to had the ghosts of Ozawa and some others. I didn't see SMT Hero or Heroine.


    Endgame is in the works. I may very well finish this game tonight. I'm in the final area.


    And Chaos skips a few endgame bosses too. Shame, they would have been a nice challenge.


    Well, this game isn't done dropping the plot twists. O_o

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Final Battle: The End of the Cycle

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    You don't say.

    Mara is a demon that looks like... uh, you'll see. I don't think he's NSFW, but I'll err on the side of caution.

    Possible NSFW
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/cjiwakura/SMT2/801.jpg
    I will test you to see if you are worthy of passage.

    Is your intelligence at least 15?

    You lie! Fool, If you want to pass with that level of
    intelligence, then you'll have to defeat me first!


    Possible NSFW
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/cjiwakura/SMT2/802.jpg

    Despite appearances, he was really easy.

    Possible NSFW
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    Almost a let down.

    Possible NSFW
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    There you will find Kether Castle, the place where
    the great Demon Lord Lucifer lives.


    Possible NSFW
    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/cjiwakura/SMT2/805.jpg
    Awful helpful for a... you know.

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    This time by foot!

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    If you're Law or Chaos, no entry for you.
    (Well, Law gets a forced means of entry, so to speak.)

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    Quite bold, aren't you?
    Making the Lord of the Abyss your servant...

    Many of Lord Lucifer's most trusted servants,
    like Lucifuge, live in this castle.



    This place was hell. Nine floors, up and down, back and forth.

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    Fortunately, you're spared most of it.

    I thought it was going to be the hell of the Cathedral revisited, but it wasn't nearly as bad.
    Still pretty high up there.


    Along the way up, a familiar face is waiting.

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    Who dares enter the hall of the great Maou
    Beezlebub uninvited!? So you're the Blendy
    that Lord Lucifer has taken such favor to.
    Let me lend you my power as well.
    However, I won't just give it to you for free.

    The next time we meet, it shall be in the Jakyou Manor!
    We shall meet again!



    Obviously, boss fight city on Law or Neutral. Same result; you get him as a fusion.

    Maybe some other time.

    Some hours later, at the top...

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    I am a close associate of Master Lucifer.
    My name is Lucifuge.

    I am in charge of organizing many of Master Lucifer's
    affairs. The creation of makka is just one such a
    responsibility of mine. I am pleased to make your
    acquaintance. Oh, what strength you have!
    Master Lucifer will surely be pleased!


    (Pretty sure this was another sadistic stat gauge of some sort.)

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    I am elated that you have decided to lend your strength to us.
    And seeing as how you made it all the way through the Abyss
    to get here, I can tell that your power will be sufficient.
    Together, we can win this! Blendy, just as I suspected,
    Satan's revival is drawing near. When Satan appears and comes
    to Earth to carry out God's judgement, everyone and everything
    will be wiped from the face of the Earth. He must be stopped!

    If my predictions are correct, Satan will most likely revive in Eden.
    If we can catch him and defeat him there, we can stop the genocide
    from happening.



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    Could it be that God has made a mistake somehow!?

    It happens.


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    The Messians are pulling out all the stops now. :lol:

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    This gets us into the earlier locked-up territory.

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    The gate blocks anyone who isn't Law.

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    We have been given the gift of knowing who is chosen
    and who is not. Oh! You are one of the chosen few.
    Go. You may enter Paradise.



    Thanks Fury.

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    This is Eden. Kind of unimpressive if you ask me.

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    I know who I am and why I am here.
    I know why I was born, what my job is, and what
    I was destined to do. And now, I am going to return
    to my true form. Look, my... my lost other half has returned to me!


    Wait, what?

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    Oh shoot.

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    I thought we had an agreement!

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    and judge of all in heaven and earth, demon and human!

    Defiler of this holy paradise! Begone! Fall into the depths
    of the filth where you belong!


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    Ow.

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    Lord Lucifer is waiting for you. Hurry to Kether Castle!

    Lot of help you were!

    Many dungeons of stupid backtracking later

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    I felt guilty.

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    Get bonus! Seriously, she upped all of Blendy's stats. Not a bad deal for thievery.

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    Yes, I had to go through Lucifer's Castle. Again.

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    Would it have killed you to use a summon spell?

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    I bet.

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    Well then, it is time, Blendy.
    The path to our final battle awaits. Let us take it together!


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    That sure doesn't happen every day.


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    The earthquake you feel now is the Kuzuryu awakening.

    If all of his heads were activated like God told me to do,
    everything on the surface, the Abyss, and the underworld,
    would be destroyed. That's why I set it up so that only
    one of its heads will be awaken, to destroy Millennium only,
    taking out Satan in Eden, and bringing light to the Underworld
    in one fell swoop!


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    Oh! Curse you, Satan! So that's what you were doing all
    this time-- building an Ark!

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    Most likely that Ark is carrying the humans chosen by God.
    Once they're safely outside the Earth's atmosphere,
    Satan will probably destroy everything and everyone on the surface!
    Damn you, Satan, I'm not going to let you get away with this!

    Come on, let's get up to that Ark, and stop him once and for all!


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    And that's how the highest demon lord wound up resigned to an arm computer.

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    The final area. I was as ready as I was going to be, shy of fusing some ultimate demons that I really had no idea how to make. So I made do with what I had.

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    Penultimate demon, penultimate stats. His skills kind of suck, except for Sabbatma(summons from the COMP).

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    The assortment of demons in Eden are pretty nasty, including a Nyarlathotep or two.

    Why there's multiple demons of the deep in Eden, who knows.

    The dungeon itself is pretty small.

    Bringing us to the first avatar of YHVH.

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    should be riding this Ark. So what are you doing here?
    To ensure that evil and violence does not destroy the new
    world, we chose only those willing to give up their knowledge
    and follow God unquestionably. And yet you, who keep killing,
    destroying, and using blasphemous magic to fuse demons,
    dare to defile its holy halls! I cannot let such wicked
    sinful people remain on this Ark!



    These fights were pretty easy, so I didn't bother recording.

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    Cool design though.

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    Sooo much XP.

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    Guaranteed two levels, at least. I started working on Speed, since Stamina is kind of useless now.
    (Strength did an HP boost too.)

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    Yes, Metatron's a random battle in Eden. O_o

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    Child of demons, artificial savior, created in defiance
    of God's holy laws! Your mere existence is a twisted
    distortion, blasphemous in the face of all the life God
    has created! As supreme lord of the bestowing of life,
    I, Shaddai, can not allow your existence to continue!


    The second avatar.

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    Also easy.

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    fight constantly... you truly are naught but demonspawn!
    And as such, you have heard the call of the throngs of
    demons and taken up arms with them, daring to wield
    your weapons and oppose me! Die!


    The third avatar. Kind of difficult; ~7000 HP.

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    Not that difficult.

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    It is magically sealed, so only I will be able to open it.
    This will only taken a moment; stand back so you don't get hurt!

    It will now open.




    The final battle begins here.

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    made it here to me. But you will die here.
    Feel fortunate that your corpse will not be immolated by the
    Megido Ark. Or perhaps you wish to be incinerated along with
    the rest of humanity?


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    Satan! So long as I live, I will not let you fire the Megido Ark!
    Destroying everything to create your "Ideal World" is wrong,
    and I will not allow it!


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    Not only have you ignored God's command to destroy the Earth
    with the Kuzuryu, but now you follow the orders of mere humans?


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    The destruction that I carry out is not to kill, but to create a new
    world, freeing both demonkind and humankind from God's tyranny!
    Don't you see? Just why do you think I gave humanity the gift of
    knowledge in the first place? I did it because I wanted them to be
    their own masters and make their own decisions! And armed with that
    knowledge, they were able to choose their own destinies and create
    their own worlds!


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    And just what did that accomplish? Giving knowledge to imperfect
    creatures like humans only caused them to fight amongst themselves,
    creating violence and destruction. Is that what you wanted?


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    You just don't get it, do you? I suppose I should expect as much
    from a minion of YHVH.


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    Blendy! Accept the judgement of God, and burn in Hell for all eternity!


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    And so it begins. This was the hardest fight in the game by far.

    Two videos, watch if you like. Monster hit like a tank.

    Yes, this was my first attempt. All things considered, I got VERY LUCKY.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFAQsYk7UAs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GphZ1UZLHhQ


    Twelve minutes later(which is reallllly long for this game), the last guardian goes down.
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    escaping... even the judgment of God... where will you go?

    Away from here.

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    Come to me and show thyselves!!!

    Someone is not happy.

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    (Yes, I went back and prepared; I'm not that crazy.)

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    Eerie.

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    It was self-defense!

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    He did it.

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    Hey!



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    Ye accursed ones, playing with the lives of so many others...

    What comes next still freaks me out, no lie.

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    Praise my name! O Lucifer! Thou hath brought thy wretched self
    along with Blendy and Lydia into my countenance at last!
    In defiance of my orders thou hath used the Kuzuryu to destroy
    only Millennium, instead of the entire Earth as I had commanded
    thee... It wouldst seem that not a speck of the glory and honor
    you once had as my Archangel remains.


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    Glory? Honor? What honor is there in being your slave?
    What honor is there in betraying my conscience to bend to your whim?
    I will do what *I* want to do, what *I* feel is right!

    Are you still so naive to think that simply because "God orders it,"
    everyone will just bend over and capitulate? Your time is over-
    no longer will we suffer under your tyranny! God creates, destroys,
    rebuilds- the cycle has always been under your complete control,
    but ends now! Perhaps it is true that a future without God can be
    nothing but chaos. But a new hope, a true rebirth, lies within that
    chaos! We will walk over your corpse and step into a new, bright
    future with unknown, unlimited possibilities!


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    Demon or human, all of thee are naught but my creations.
    Thy blades canst not even scratch me.
    Feel the wrath of my divine lightning, and plummet into the
    bowels of hell, burning in its unending flames!
    Demons! Evil humans who hath sold thy souls to demons!


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    Easier fight. Extremely drawn out.

    The last part is ridiculously short.

    This is the final battle.

    This was the first run. I got quite lucky here too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZYZ8QtDnqA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnZ4BA1FbME
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaaf14yZGzE

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    his own creations has naught but oblivion waiting for him.

    I cannot stand to see the confusion of a world not under
    my control. Who wilt rule this new but confused world?
    Lucifer? Dost thou truly think the names of Blendy
    and Lydia will be worshiped as those of saviors?

    But remember this... humanity is not strong enough to live
    without one to cling to or rely on. As long as people continue
    to seek my salvation, the will of the universe will recreate me
    again and again and again......


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    Home sweet home?

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    I thought she was a program? O_o

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    Light is shining here in the underworld!

    Everyone come and see!


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    We demons were cast into the Abyss and vilified by YHVH,
    but now that he is dead, there is no longer anyone to oppress
    us or make us appear evil. Our bonds are broken and we can
    finally live freely here in this world. And the mutants have been
    liberated as well. Those suffering under oppression have finally
    received the light they desired for so long.

    From the mutants perspective, you two are truly their Saviors.

    Within the chaos, the peace has been lost, but we demons
    and you humans have both gained true freedom. And of course,
    that means that you now have the freedom to work toward
    reestablishing the peace, if that is what you desire.

    Come, let us go. Into the new world, one where no one suffers
    under the domination of any other!


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    brink of being destroyed. I cannot express my thanks to you enough.
    For a long, long time, we suffered under the oppression of the overworld,
    but you have saved us from their tyranny. You are truly our Savior!

    If they succeeded in firing the Megido Ark, not only would everyone on
    the surface have died, but we here in the underworld would all have been
    obliterated as well. And you were the ones that stopped them.

    We finally get to see the sun with our own eyes!



    The last person I expect to see shows up...

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    The Yousei here in the underworld were saved. While not in the way
    the Center intended, you are truly our Savior.


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    Happily ever after... I think.

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    After all, it was our decision to walk the same path as Lucifer!

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    I don't have to call you mom now, do I?...


    A vignette of scenes follows, showing the many nightmares Blendy and co had to endure at the hands of evil demons, corrupt Messians, twisted Gaians, and stupid people in general.

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    The light has returned to the Underworld.

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    The Ark is gone.

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    And the Goddess is reborn.

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    Shin Megami Tensei II

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    The End.




    It's been a blast, all. I thought SMT2 couldn't live up to SMT1. I was wrong.

    So what's next? Uh, I'm working on that. Don't get your hopes up for the third numeral.

    I don't have the means at present. Maybe someday soon...

    The cycle goes on and on.

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Huh. That was actually a pretty pleasant ending. Other SMT games have conditioned me to expect a more bittersweet ending, but no.

    Also, I think YHVH's big failing here (other than being a genocidal douchebag) is that He's incredibly authoritarian. It seems He simply cannot comprehend that totalitarianism and violent anarchy are not the only two options available.

    Oh, and letting Great Old Ones onto the Ark 2.0. That was probably a mistake as well. :P

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    This is probably the happiest ending in any SMT game I've seen. And Lucifer is genuinely interested in helping his people survive, not total demonic rule.

    Also,I glanced at the Neutral ending on youtube. The Chaos ending is so much better.
    The Neutral ending has YHVH curse Aleph and Hiroko for all eternity, along with their children's children and so on. Then it ends with the two of them rebuilding the world on their own.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Part 3 of the Yahweh fight is up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zaaf14yZGzE

    :lol: I know. I thought I had a lot left.


    Also, that Rika-ja spell is sick. I thought it was Dekunda, but it apparently buffed him too. Note how low my damage output was getting.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Thanks for making this LP, CJ. I really enjoyed it.

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    DartboyDartboy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That was a surprisingly upbeat ending for an SMT game.

    Also interesting to note in God's speech at the end there, "As long as people continue to seek my salvation, the will of the universe will recreate me again and again and again...... "

    Makes it sound like he's actually not at the top of the food chain there, and there's something else still controlling things. Wonder if that ties into the Nocturne Kagutsuchi/Conception thing?

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    KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    cj, with my capture card/LPing and your SMT powers combined... :!:

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    Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, I've been trying to go back and see what I've been missing all these years having never played (and just barely heard of) any SMT game. I've heard this one's pretty much the bees knees, and now I don't have to slog through it to find out what's going on. Much obliged, since I don't think I'd have the patience to!

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj, with my capture card/LPing and your SMT powers combined... :!:

    Tell me more?

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    Lezard ValethLezard Valeth Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Dartboy wrote: »
    That was a surprisingly upbeat ending for an SMT game.

    Also interesting to note in God's speech at the end there, "As long as people continue to seek my salvation, the will of the universe will recreate me again and again and again...... "

    Makes it sound like he's actually not at the top of the food chain there, and there's something else still controlling things. Wonder if that ties into the Nocturne Kagutsuchi/Conception thing?

    No, I think what he is saying is while the people needs to believe in something, the collective will involuntarily will revive him. The people created him, not the other way around.

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    KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj, with my capture card/LPing and your SMT powers combined... :!:

    Tell me more?

    Talking about Nocturne, right? I've got it along with my capture card/etc. I've never played through it, I'm actually only at Matador but really would like to beat it. I could do a live stream and take snapshots along the way for each set, while you can give advice/choose decisions, or something.

    Can also do recordings of things. Screen cap quality:

    Interlacing is kind of rude, sometimes.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj, with my capture card/LPing and your SMT powers combined... :!:

    Tell me more?

    Talking about Nocturne, right? I've got it along with my capture card/etc. I've never played through it, I'm actually only at Matador but really would like to beat it. I could do a live stream and take snapshots along the way for each set, while you can give advice/choose decisions, or something.

    Can also do recordings of things. Screen cap quality:

    Interlacing is kind of rude, sometimes.

    Looks sharp. If you want, but Nocturne's a 90+ hour RPG; livestream might be a little beyond most people's patience.

    I think screenshot is best, but if you plan to take it on, your call. I'll highly endorse it.


    Also, fun fact: the SA LP of SMTII took 49 updates. We managed in 10. 8-)

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    KaseiusKaseius Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I meant more like, I'll provide you with all the screencaps for the LP and livestreaming would just be if people wanted to watch/to get advice/because I'd playing it here at the PC anyway. We can figure it out if you're interested. :^:

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I had planned on using my memory card with 3rd Cycle data, but if you want to work that out, sure. :P

    Got AIM or some such?

    Oh yes you do.

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    ElexElex Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    You know, I think the game shows a smidge obvious favoritism to the Chaos ending. Checking out the other two endings, it's definitely the longest and the happiest of the three.

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    NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Another entertaining "Let's Play," cj, well done!

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    TeriferinTeriferin Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    That was a surprisingly happy ending for an SMT game.

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    Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj, with my capture card/LPing and your SMT powers combined... :!:

    Tell me more?

    Talking about Nocturne, right? I've got it along with my capture card/etc. I've never played through it, I'm actually only at Matador but really would like to beat it. I could do a live stream and take snapshots along the way for each set, while you can give advice/choose decisions, or something.

    Can also do recordings of things. Screen cap quality:

    Interlacing is kind of rude, sometimes.

    Hey, I'm stuck at that asshole, too! I started playing DDS because of him. Thinking I really need to go and finish Nocturne, though.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Kaseius wrote: »
    cj, with my capture card/LPing and your SMT powers combined... :!:

    Tell me more?

    Talking about Nocturne, right? I've got it along with my capture card/etc. I've never played through it, I'm actually only at Matador but really would like to beat it. I could do a live stream and take snapshots along the way for each set, while you can give advice/choose decisions, or something.

    Can also do recordings of things. Screen cap quality:

    Interlacing is kind of rude, sometimes.

    Looks sharp. If you want, but Nocturne's a 90+ hour RPG; livestream might be a little beyond most people's patience.

    I think screenshot is best, but if you plan to take it on, your call. I'll highly endorse it.


    Also, fun fact: the SA LP of SMTII took 49 updates. We managed in 10. 8-)

    That one had a lot more info and more detail on some of the sidequests, also picked the good ending.

    Lucifer is still an asshat in this game. Oh sure the mutants and demons ended up all right but what about the vast majority of humans and all of the forces of law? Dead.

    Neutral is the best ending of this game.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    How do you know the majority of humankind is dead? Law wanted to kill EVERYONE.


    Screw the Messians. Bury them all.

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